Or the officer pulled over the wrong vehicle. I beat mine that way - judge believed me, ( it was true ) and the judge was ****** at the prosecutor for her approach.
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Automated speed enforcement ticket
- Thread starter jemberlin
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Mikedezo44
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19 over in Calgary cost me $175 in January, not a government worker, teacher, in any position of power. Couldn't come up with any reasonable reason to pay less. Paid and forgot about.
guzzirider
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Even if you go to court and win it may not be over!
It's not the $60.00 of your ticket that is at stake.
Photo radar in Edmonton (600,000 people) pulls in over a million a month.
By winning you have set a condition that all other tickets to be challenged.
The city can take it to the Provincial Court of Appeals and have that decision overturned.
If it goes that route you better have serious pocket change.
Been there done that!
It's not the $60.00 of your ticket that is at stake.
Photo radar in Edmonton (600,000 people) pulls in over a million a month.
By winning you have set a condition that all other tickets to be challenged.
The city can take it to the Provincial Court of Appeals and have that decision overturned.
If it goes that route you better have serious pocket change.
Been there done that!
Recently got a similar ticket, 62 at a 50 zone. Never realized they planted a cam there, right next to my house. I usually drive/ride within 10 over the limit in the city limits, never had an issue so far.
I was charged 23 bucks over the ticket (3$ convenience fees). Still don't know what the other 20 is for.
I was charged 23 bucks over the ticket (3$ convenience fees). Still don't know what the other 20 is for.
afici0nad0
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Sounds about right. Got a speed camera ticket mailed from calgary when i was driving to vancouver couple of summers back.
Saw the pics and thought "oh ya, i remember that flash"
I'm sure we'll see more of this.
Malks
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This statement made me laugh. Photo radar is ONLY about the money because they don't care who was driving. IF they really wanted to get convictions and possibly change driver behaviour they would have a cop at the "dangerous location" handing out real tickets with more consequences, ie. points and insurance implications. Going 12 km over the limit is also laughable, particularly with the absurdly low posted speed limits, I mean 30 kph in some areas.
Back to the point of this post. Pay the fine and move on.
Malks
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Peel and stick 3M products should work well. Just cut it to the approximate size of the lens opening and keep handy for when you see one that needs a new lens cover.
Photo-radar is mostly fundraising, I agree. If you escalate to traffic court, they just want convictions as quickly as possible ime. JP's allow most people that cry poor lower fines and more time to pay.
Unpopular opinion incoming.
I agree with the photoradar cameras in residential neighbourhoods. Primarily because there is a speeding epidemic in mine. Far too many people are tearing azs through the neighbourhood and it is only a matter of time before a kid gets killed.
We have perfect killing grounds too. High rates of speed, blind corners, elevation changes, lots of parked cars, kids out playing and plenty of elderly just out for a walk.
I'm no angel, 20 or 30 over on 400 series is common for me (if that is the flow of traffic) but NEVER even 1km over in a residential neighbourhood. I couldn't live with myself.
Put the cameras in residential neighbourhoods, slow the traffic. You wanna speed where there's kids around, you pay the tax.
Waiting for the flaming.
I agree with the photoradar cameras in residential neighbourhoods. Primarily because there is a speeding epidemic in mine. Far too many people are tearing azs through the neighbourhood and it is only a matter of time before a kid gets killed.
We have perfect killing grounds too. High rates of speed, blind corners, elevation changes, lots of parked cars, kids out playing and plenty of elderly just out for a walk.
I'm no angel, 20 or 30 over on 400 series is common for me (if that is the flow of traffic) but NEVER even 1km over in a residential neighbourhood. I couldn't live with myself.
Put the cameras in residential neighbourhoods, slow the traffic. You wanna speed where there's kids around, you pay the tax.
Waiting for the flaming.
Fuzzbuster
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Dog poop, grease, add some honey, bit of tar!
Cover the entire device!
If you want to make it really fun, strip the fastener heads first!
No flaming from me as long as the speed limits make sense and the community safety zones make sense. It's when one local resident on a rural road bends the ear of local council and gets them to do something stupid, that I get upset about them. I can point to a few.
I'm with you.
Aside all that, these places are the most unpredictable places to drive. Whether it's someone absentmindedly backing out of a driveway without looking, landscapers trailers etc. partially blocking a lane, someone wobbling along on a bicycle, or a pet or kid dashing out onto the road.
These are the last places you want extra speed. If they slow people down, I'm OK with it.
Don't they usually post signs warning drivers about photo radar too?
I'm not anti-speed camera. I am very anti-politician. If you want to control speed and increase safety, step one is road design. Done properly, the numbers on the signs barely matter. Almost every politician everywhere starts with the number on the sign, then adds enforcement to profit from the number. You can count on one hand the number of places where road design has been altered to create a permanent and substantive change in behaviour. And before people complain about the cost, it would be easy to incorporate better designs in new developments but they don't. Huge wide straight streets, no obstacles, low numbers on the signs and lots of stop signs to try to control speed (even though they are explicitly not to be used for speed control). Cost of better/safer/slower design would be zero to municipality.
I live on one of those rural roads, Hwy 2 near Port Hope.
I WISH the local OPP would listen to the complaints and set up a radar trap here on weekends and more importantly when they close the 401 when an accident occurs. The occasional d#ckheads on their blatting cruisers or screeching sportbikes are bad enough on weekends but the speeding transports when the 401 gets jammed are dangerous.
Our driveway is near the crest of a gentle hill with a small cluster of 4 houses across the road. I've had more occasions than I care to count of getting ready to turn into my driveway, hearing the sounds of truck tires "screeching" under hard braking, looking in my rearview mirror and seeing a fully loaded dump truck swaying from side to side or a transport bearing down fast. Off goes the signal and down the hill I go. Then there's the guys who are running through the gears coming up the hill that you can't see when coming out of the driveway until they scream past.
Don't want a ticket? Slow down and ride/drive appropriately for the area.
That's my major problem. In many places in Ontario, the speed appropriate for the area is completely disconnected from the number on the sign.
EDIT:
When the speed limit is obviously inappropriate for the area, are you supposed to drive the appropriate speed or the sign speed? If you drive the sign speed, there will be many vehicles closing fast as they are naturally driving the appropriate speed.
Here's a reasonable discussion on speed limits from a municipality. As expected, they don't always follow their own advice and politicians arbitrarily drop the speed limit on some roads.
Agreed.
Hwy. 2 is posted as 80 along here and that's really fast enough given the scattered residential component and farm vehicles presence.
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