Like this in Switzerland? Unfortunately something like that installed in, say, MILTON would result in at least one person a day table topping it.
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Automated speed enforcement ticket
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Like this in Switzerland? Unfortunately something like that installed in, say, MILTON would result in at least one person a day table topping it.
Hmmmmm. I have etching primer and lexan in the garage. It may permanently destroy the transparency of the plexiglass. I should do an experiment.
I'm ok with that result. Add oil traps to the catch basins near the island.Like this in Switzerland? Unfortunately something like that installed in, say, MILTON would result in at least one person a day table topping it.
Its a turntable. Make it spin like its designed to and anyone that ends up on top comes out in a different direction.Like this in Switzerland? Unfortunately something like that installed in, say, MILTON would result in at least one person a day table topping it.
Like this in Switzerland? Unfortunately something like that installed in, say, MILTON would result in at least one person a day table topping it.
In @mimico_polak's neck of the woods. Do you know him?
Back to I will support laws based on engineering not whining. Many traffic laws clearly are based on the whims of a vocal minority and have nothing to do with safety.
That's why I posted the YouTube video
I drive through 3 Community
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It would be cool if it made scratching noises and some quality rap music as cars went around it.Like this in Switzerland? Unfortunately something like that installed in, say, MILTON would result in at least one person a day table topping it.
The guy formerly known as Mladin.
Malks
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That would be the best traffic calming measure ever!
It would certainly keep me out of that area.
This highlights the difference between a law and a social contract. In the case of something like murder or domestic abuse, the law and the social contract are very closely aligned - they are forbidden, and everyone almost universally agrees on these prohibitions.
In the case of something like speed limits, the law and the social contract can be quite far apart. As your linked video illustrates, road design (not the posted speed limit) is the primary factor in determining how fast people drive. A social contract is still in place here, but it's rooted in what people collectively think is safe and acceptable, not what is posted on the speed limit sign. It is not usually socially acceptable to drive significantly faster or more aggressively than the rest of traffic, regardless of whether everyone is already speeding or not. Aggressive driving like interfering with or intimidating other drivers is much less acceptable than a simple speed differential.
People can get pretty riled up when the law doesn't match the social contract:
The case for higher speed limits on Hwy. 401
The best road design elements shift the context of the social contract to include more people. In Ontario every piece of pavement is effectively a road, with the implied context that this is a place exclusively for automobiles, and therefore that the appropriate social contract is the one used between vehicles. If a pedestrian or cyclist happens to be on the pavement, the common reaction of drivers is to say "get the hell out of the road", rather than adjusting the social contract to include them. The video on 'stroads' from the same channel is also worth watching:
Toronto is considering doubling the number of cameras and switching to an "administrative monetary penalty" to avoid overwhelming the courts. Basically removing opportunities to contest the ticket. While truly innocent probably represents an edge condition, I wouldnt be surprised if more people run fake plates for a similar vehicle. That takes away speed camera tickets (for them) and avoids an alpr flag.
It will be interesting to see what happens with police time now that municipalities are quickt ramping up number of cameras. Do they stay focused on speed traps or do they pivot to driving behaviours that are far more dangerous/disruptive but less lucrative?
It will be interesting to see what happens with police time now that municipalities are quickt ramping up number of cameras. Do they stay focused on speed traps or do they pivot to driving behaviours that are far more dangerous/disruptive but less lucrative?
Well this is going to cause a lot more fake plates to be run. Also if you have a common car like someone...those plates can get stolen fairly easily.
A white Honda Odyssey...choose a target and swap out plates. Almost no chance of being caught as no cop is going to run a VIN check on it.
Olivia has to find that $1.5B wherever she can.
One problem with speed / red light cameras is the delay in being informed of the infraction.
If a cop pulls you over you know right away of the offense and why you did it. You could also recognize what made you do the deed and better correct your driving attitudes. Cops have heard every excuse but give it a shot anyways. If you're decent with them they might ease the pain.
If a cop pulls you over you know right away of the offense and why you did it. You could also recognize what made you do the deed and better correct your driving attitudes. Cops have heard every excuse but give it a shot anyways. If you're decent with them they might ease the pain.
I'm on the fence on speed cameras.
Got tagged in Calgary in a rental, $150 + a $30 fee from the rental company. 1 month delay in receiving ticket notification from rental company. came. Never saw the camera signs, but did note to spouse at that time that everyone seems to be driving sanely, unlike ON traffic. So cameras in Calgary do seem to have a calming effect on traffic.
Just paid a Mississauga school zone ticket. Saw the flash in the side mirror, 49 in a 30, $120. Ticket came 3 weeks after the incident, but I was pretty certain it was on the way due to the flash. I knew it was a school zone, missed the camera sign, went through about 30 - 40 and then accelerated a bit and got tagged by the camera. Will remember next time I'm in the area.
Using the Mississauga incident as an example is 40 - 50 reckless or dangerous in a school zone? I don't think so. People have been caught doing 80 - 100 and in my mind that's a crazy speed to be driving on any residential street, much less a 30 school zone.
There is an easy solution to that. Just past the camera, install a screen that shows the picture of the vehicle that it thinks deserves a ticket. If you see yourself up there, you know either one is coming or you may get lucky but you are pushing it.
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