Anyway to get someone from Canada Post fired?

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Jayell said:
A couple of carriers (actually now referred to as "delivery agents") who do overtime every day at the station where I work will gross over $100K this year.
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They must do a hell of a lot of ot to do that though... With a base salary of $50 to 55k.

I don't know about you, but I'm not a big fan of 70 or 80 hour weeks... It doesn't leave enough time to go out and ride.

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Motorcycle Mike said:
I don't know about you, but I'm not a big fan of 70 or 80 hour weeks..
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Some people live to work, instead of work to live.

I have a few coworkers who regularly do 80+ hour weeks, and one who drives over an hour each way to & from his house before and after, 5 days a week. Eat, sleep, work...that appears to be some people's lives.
 
Motorcycle Mike said:
As a result of j2's post of misinformation, I decided to look up the actual numbers.

A supervisor salary range is $61795 to $69097. It takes 10 years to progress from the low to the high.

A letter carrier pay range is $19. 38/hour to $25.95/hour. It takes 7 years to progress from the low to the high.

Both are not bad pay, but not the numbers j2 suggested unless those employees are working 16 hours of overtime every week of the year.

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Thx for looking up real numbers. Are those hourly rates based on real hours worked or some kind of equivalent/flat rate hours (eg. this route is worth 8 hours)?

In the past many posties could get their routes done in <<4 hours as the route length was based on walking back out to the street between houses, cutting across lawns would literally result in a 70% reduction in the number of steps (and time) required. Think of the post job as a ridiculously amazing paying part-time job and then they would work a full-time job to keep themselves busy. Ending home delivery substantially changes this dynamic and the posties I see working now look stressed and seem to be working long days.
 
Googled this issue and it seems very common; it even goes back to 2011.

What the ****?!
 
GreyGhost said:
Thx for looking up real numbers. Are those hourly rates based on real hours worked or some kind of equivalent/flat rate hours (eg. this route is worth 8 hours)?

In the past many posties could get their routes done in <<4 hours as the route length was based on walking back out to the street between houses, cutting across lawns would literally result in a 70% reduction in the number of steps (and time) required. Think of the post job as a ridiculously amazing paying part-time job and then they would work a full-time job to keep themselves busy. Ending home delivery substantially changes this dynamic and the posties I see working now look stressed and seem to be working long days.
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I think it is hourly... or basically salary for 40 hours and then hourly for OT.
The letter carriers I've talked to say things have changed out there... the days of working 4 or 6 hours and getting paid 8 are over as most of their routes have been restructured and have had manual sorting time taken away. The collective agreement online likely spells it all out, but it is a huge document so good luck with that.

Link mentioned something about a high turn-over now... which I believe. I've talked to guys who have gone into Canada Post recently and they say you start as casual on-call... and you stay that way for years (4 or 5) until you can get part-time. Part time is around 20 to 25 hours per week. Apparently those first few years as a casual are all at the lowest rate ($19.38) and no benefits at all.

So if you add it up... 4 or 5 years at $19.38, then part time for years after, and only after 10 years of service or more are you making over $50k/year.
 
LiNK666 said:
It's not the pay. It's the work. Canadians don't want to do demanding work. As the older (more capable) generation goes out, the newer generation has been babied by their parents too much. They want to get that $65k you speak about and feel they are too good to do that job.

I spoke to a Canada post delivery guy that comes to my store quite often. He told me they have a very high turn over rate for new entrants. They leave within 3 - 4 years. He was training someone earlier this summer. They quit 4 months later. Same attitude "I did university degree I'm too good to deliver mail." What they don't realize is that a degree in philosophy is quite useless in the real world. Want to do something that matters and gets good pay? Go learn math.
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I can smell the Fixodent from here
 
LiNK666 said:
It's not the pay. It's the work. Canadians don't want to do demanding work. As the older (more capable) generation goes out, the newer generation has been babied by their parents too much. They want to get that $65k you speak about and feel they are too good to do that job.

I spoke to a Canada post delivery guy that comes to my store quite often. He told me they have a very high turn over rate for new entrants. They leave within 3 - 4 years. He was training someone earlier this summer. They quit 4 months later. Same attitude "I did university degree I'm too good to deliver mail." What they don't realize is that a degree in philosophy is quite useless in the real world. Want to do something that matters and gets good pay? Go learn math.
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You mad somebody who grow up here don't want to work with you?
 
Ordered stuff from Amazon regular delivery and it never showed up.
Complained and they re-shipped free with express delivery.
UPS leaves the box on the planter at the front, thirty feet from a busy sidewalk. BIG Amazon label. Temptation???
Not between the doors, no signature, no ring the bell. Just drop and go.
Fortunately I was home and heard the truck.
 
Motorcycle Mike said:
There is not a Canada Post supervisor in this country making 97k unless they're working a tonne of overtime.

The salary ranges are publicly available.
CUPW for letter carriers, APOC for supervisors. The manager salaries are not publicly available as they are not unionized.

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http://www.payscale.com/research/CA/Employer=Canada_Post_Corporation/Salary

My sister is a supervisor in the Windsor center. She makes close to the max.
 
LiNK666 said:
Same attitude "I did university degree I'm too good to deliver mail." What they don't realize is that a degree in philosophy is quite useless in the real world. Want to do something that matters and gets good pay? Go learn math.
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:) I definitely agree with that.
 
油井緋色;2368099 said:
Over the years I've been receiving packages from Canada Post where the item is marked as "delivered" but has not arrived. It'll randomly arrive a few days later.

I'm pretty sure this is the same lazy **** doing it as it doesn't happen to other friends who leave in different areas.
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I'm an Operations Manager at Canada Post. If this is happening I would ask you to please pick up the phone and let us know. I get a number of complaints and do take them seriously

Do you have a community mail box? Will the packages fit in it? Do the packages need a signature and are you at home?

Its kind of dumb but when the package is loaded on the truck for delivery it can be assigned a "Delivered" status.

The number is 1-800-267-1177
 
Motorcycle Mike said:
As a result of j2's post of misinformation, I decided to look up the actual numbers.

A supervisor salary range is $61795 to $69097. It takes 10 years to progress from the low to the high.

A letter carrier pay range is $19. 38/hour to $25.95/hour. It takes 7 years to progress from the low to the high.

Both are not bad pay, but not the numbers j2 suggested unless those employees are working 16 hours of overtime every week of the year.

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My Friend. I have worked for Canada Post for 27 years and am a Senior Operations Manager. I can assure you that I don't work for $60k and I don't get paid overtime.
 
RockerGuy said:
You mad somebody who grow up here don't want to work with you?
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Try hiring anyone 18 to 22. Completely useless. Older generation canadians 30+ or immigrants are so much better. One kid told me "I have to quit, my parents told me I should aim higher" this is after he begged me to hire because no one else would.
 
Did he bring his parents to the interview?
 
LiNK666 said:
You need to rally the government into importing in Mexicans to deliver the mail. How do you think you get your food? Mexicans farming as slave labour illegally in US. For sure white people and the privileged 2nd generation Canadian citizens don't want to do it.
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Doesn't just happen in the US, Canada is just as guilty. It's called the "Temporary Foreign Worker Program"
 
Ulsterman said:
My Friend. I have worked for Canada Post for 27 years and am a Senior Operations Manager. I can assure you that I don't work for $60k and I don't get paid overtime.
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And I stated that I have no idea how much manager's make as their salaries aren't publicly available.

J2 stated supervisors. The max salary for a supervisor at Canada Post, not including overtime or special allowances like isolation pay, is around $69000 as per the APOC collective agreement -- look it up yourself, a supervisor at Canada Post is called an 'OP1'. Page 127 of the following PDF: http://www.apoc-aopc.com/images/uploads/13895758371432662616.pdf

OP2 and OP3 in that list are superintendents and can make more. J2, you sister is either is higher than a supervisor or she works a tonne of overtime. It is pretty easy to see how much someone makes when they work in a unionized environment and the collective agreement is public information!
 
By far I've had the worst experiences with Can Par over Canada Post -- I've had shipments sent to work, only to find out 'they attempted delivery, rang the bell and no one is home'. We don't have a bell...we have a loading dock...with an entire shipping receiving department open 8:30am until 4:30pm...
 
LiNK666 said:
Try hiring anyone 18 to 22. Completely useless. Older generation canadians 30+ or immigrants are so much better. One kid told me "I have to quit, my parents told me I should aim higher" this is after he begged me to hire because no one else would.
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Well, you can't beat your kids here. I'm not surprised
 
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