Anyone into gardening here?

[Roadghost]

So good to see people growing outdoors naturally. One thing to take into consideration when growing outdoors in urban areas is light pollution.
Pot plants generally require 10.5, 11 or even 12 hours of UNBROKEN darkness to trigger flowering. Any stray light during this "dark period" and it will hinder or even stop the flowering. This stray light could come from patio lights, a street light, porch light etc. . Take this into consideration when choosing a spot for your plants.

Never really considered that. Lost of neighbors with night lighting, but most is off by 11pm. This is an experiment though. We'll see how they do when the days get shorter.

 

[boyoboy]

Seedbanks have developed seeds that they call AUTO seeds that will flower without a large change in the dark period. hence, the name autoflower seeds. There are many strains of autoflower. These have gone through a lot of development the last 10-15 years. What they have done is take ruderuelis (spelling) a strain that is a no stone hemp strain from russia and area, where summers are very very short and so they naturally auto flower. they cross this strain with one of their favoured strains to produce seed.

Im not a fan of these auto seeds because..well, their genetics are partially no stone genetics - making for weaker marijauna. but Im now changing my mind because they've made a lot of progress and the weed can be high quality - something you wouldn't see just 10 years ago.
Most of the well known seed breeders offer these. You might even be growing an autoflower w/o knowing it. I would ask the breeder.

 

[boyoboy]

Seedbanks have developed seeds that they call AUTO seeds that will flower without a large change in the dark period. hence, the name autoflower seeds. There are many strains of autoflower. These have gone through a lot of development the last 10-15 years. What they have done is take ruderuelis (spelling) a strain that is a no stone hemp strain from russia and area, where summers are very very short and so they naturally auto flower. they cross this strain with one of their favoured strains to produce seed.

Im not a fan of these auto seeds because..well, their genetics are partially no stone genetics - making for weaker marijauna. but Im now changing my mind because they've made a lot of progress and the weed can be high quality - something you wouldn't see just 10 years ago.
Most of the well known seed breeders offer these. You might even be growing an autoflower w/o knowing it. I would ask the breeder.

Canadian Mediman; author and grower specializing in stealth indoor grow ops, and medical marijauna patient, was told by doctors he would be dead within 2-3 years from his rare disease - a disease that wouldn't allow his body to expel copper. That was way more than 10 years ago. Smile. Anyhow, he once entered a slight auto strain - and won a toronto marijauna cup with it several years ago. He credits pot for saving his life.

 

[boyoboy]

Canadian Mediman; author and grower specializing in stealth indoor grow ops, and medical marijauna patient, was told by doctors he would be dead within 2-3 years from his rare disease - a disease that wouldn't allow his body to expel copper. That was way more than 10 years ago. Smile. Anyhow, he once entered a slight auto strain - and won a toronto marijauna cup with it several years ago. He credits pot for saving his life.

Its nothing but cruel when our government colludes with corporations to make ridiculous mark up on pot. $10 or even $8 for a gram is outrageous for a medical marijauna patient or anyone for that matter. If it was truly legal, I could easily make a six digit salary growing a half acre open field and using cheap hedgerow greenhouse's to flower. while selling it for $1 /gram. It's a prolific weed for crying out loud.

EDIT- at the reserve (sans tax) a 1 to 1.5 gram single cig- costs RETAIL @ 7.5 cents. Think about it....

 

[boyoboy]

Its nothing but cruel when our government colludes with corporations to make ridiculous mark up on pot. $10 or even $8 for a gram is outrageous for a medical marijauna patient or anyone for that matter. If it was truly legal, I could easily make a six digit salary growing a half acre open field and using cheap hedgerow greenhouse's to flower. while selling it for $1 /gram. It's a prolific weed for crying out loud.

EDIT- at the reserve (sans tax) a 1 to 1.5 gram single cig- costs RETAIL @ 7.5 cents. Think about it....

Medical marijauna is being used to treat children for cancer. Parents are paying up to $1000/month for their childrens pot oil. but seeing more than 20 tumours dissappear from a child's lung is nothing short amazing. This isn't a time to be gouging folks. because they will pay anything?

 

[jc100]

Medical marijauna is being used to treat children for cancer. Parents are paying up to $1000/month for their childrens pot oil. but seeing more than 20 tumours dissappear from a child's lung is nothing short amazing. This isn't a time to be gouging folks. because they will pay anything?

Careful. Quite a few of these claims are bunk. There’s some medical benefits to much of this crop but it’s not a miracle. If you smoke it you’re back to square one health wise too. I work in this area and don’t have a vested big pharma interest. Just an objective point of view. What interests me is the potential for epilepsy treatment and pain. Everything else I see is dubious.

 

[boyoboy]

Careful. Quite a few of these claims are bunk. There’s some medical benefits to much of this crop but it’s not a miracle. If you smoke it you’re back to square one health wise too. I work in this area and don’t have a vested big pharma interest. Just an objective point of view. What interests me is the potential for epilepsy treatment and pain. Everything else I see is dubious.

Thanks for your reply. I was waiting for this. Do you have a reference for this information?
.

 

[boyoboy]

Thanks for your reply. I was waiting for this. Do you have a reference for this information? What happens when you put marijauna and cancer cells together in a petri dish?
The cancer cells die. That simple. Indisputable. When is the last time big pharma was able to say this about one of their drugs? There is a lot of interference of research - by government and big pharma. Not my words, but those of a medical doctor with 38 years experience, and a specialist in cancer. Watch this video and then try to say this is bunk. Most of these patients parents did not want to try using pot as medicine. They only went to using pot as medicine as a last resort for there children. This documentary is on netflix now and follows several children with cancer. Please watch it. Titled - "WEed THE PEOPLE".
Another good video by David suzuki shows a ms patient going from a shaking out of control patient who cannot hold anything - to a calm person within one minute of inhaling pot. Was simply miraculous.
Watch these 2 videos, and then try to say its bunk. Remember how 60+ years ago governments would state as fact you would go insane and murderous if you smoked marijauna? They portrayed this as fact in those old lying and bizzare publicly funded commercials. Talk about bunk.

 

[boyoboy]

Research Israel's exceptional research into medical pot. They are world leaders whose government encourages research, unlike north american governments who suppress and block research into anything positive about medical marijauna.

 

[jc100]

Thanks for your reply. I was waiting for this. Do you have a reference for this information?
.

I’d need double blind placebo controlled clinical trials data as the ultimate evidence. To my knowledge there aren’t any and until there are you just have anecdotal claims for other ailments. There’s no buzz in the community about this but there's obviously pain relief use and publications on that. The potential (not absolute yet) epilepsy thing has a few publications on it too.

 

[jc100]

Research Israel's exceptional research into medical pot. They are world leaders whose government encourages research, unlike north american governments who suppress and block research into anything positive about medical marijauna.

It’s not suppressed or blocked. I promise you that. Medical marijuana companies are flush with cash and have been throwing it at researchers.

 

[jc100]

If you put cancer cells and bleach together in a petri dish they die. If you put them together with ethanol they die. Ethanol doesn’t cure cancer and bleach will kill you.

 

[boyoboy]

If you put cancer cells and bleach together in a petri dish they die. If you put them together with ethanol they die. Ethanol doesn’t cure cancer and bleach will kill you.

Exactly. marijauna doesn't kill you. Name something that won't harm a patient but kills cancer cells.
Watch the videos and then come back to this thread.
No comment on the government stating as fact that you will go insane and murderous if you smoke pot? We still have a long way to go.
Please watch the video's and reply. Research is being blocked. Learn.

 

[boyoboy]

Aiming High: Israeli Scientist Attempts To Kill Cancer Cells With Cannabis

Dr. David Meiri of the Technion is conducting research showing that combinations of different cannabis compounds could be effective in destroying cancer cells.

nocamels.com

The worlds leading edge researchers of medical marijauna would look at you sideways if you called marijauna's ability to kill cancer cells "bunk".
The best in the world don't agree with you.

 

[jc100]

Exactly. marijauna doesn't kill you. Name something that won't harm a patient but kills cancer cells.
Watch the videos and then come back to this thread.
No comment on the government stating as fact that you will go insane and murderous if you smoke pot? We still have a long way to go.
Please watch the video's and reply. Research is being blocked. Learn.

There’s a million things that will kill cancer cells in a Petri dish. Many of them do nothing in the human body. Go on pubmed and have a look at peer reviewed journals on the subject. Nothing is being blocked, there too much cash in a potential use for these things. Most large pharma companies own vitamin and natural supplement companies, they get their cash one way or another.

Here... https://www.bmj.com/sites/default/f...015/03/Medicinal Cannabis The Evidence V1.pdf

British medical journal backed up with science. Not some hippy rag.

 

[boyoboy]

There’s a million things that will kill cancer cells in a Petri dish. Many of them do nothing in the human body. Go on pubmed and have a look at peer reviewed journals on the subject. Nothing is being blocked, there too much cash in a potential use for these things. Most large pharma companies own vitamin and natural supplement companies, they get their cash one way or another.

Here... https://www.bmj.com/sites/default/files/response_attachments/2015/03/Medicinal Cannabis The Evidence V1.pdf

British medical journal backed up with science. Not some hippy rag.

Thank you for the link. This is a very helpful link. The s Israel news paper is a "hippy publication"? lmao you're grasping at straws.

This is from your link. ty.

Medicinal Cannabis: The Evidence Abstract This paper reviews the evidence in support of the safety and efficacy of using raw herbal cannabis as medicine.It is widely claimed that there is insufficient evidence to support medicinal use but this is not borne out by the facts, let alone 10,000 years of human history. In fact,there is so much evidence available for so many conditions that this paper is restricted to conditions for which cannabis appears to have the most beneficial effects.Side effects and risks of medicinal cannabis are very well documented in the literature, muchof which is focused on identifying harms of recreational use. The risks are extremely lowin a therapeutic context compared with pharmaceutical medicines.

This is your argument? It clearly supports what I have been saying. ?!?

 

[boyoboy]

Alzheimer’s DiseaseThe evidence is strong that regular, moderate use of cannabis helps to delay the onset and progression of Alzheimer’s disease and other neurodegenerative conditions.CancerOn balance, while there is excellent evidence of anti cancer properties in vitro (human cell lines) and in vivo (animal) studies, there is little evidence of actual results in humans except in the treatment of basal cell carcinoma. However, few would disagree that the palliative value of cannabis is of great benefit to many cancer patients.Chronic PainThere is a large quantity of good quality evidence, including clinical trials with placebo controls, that demonstrate the efficacy and safety of cannabis in treating chronic pain.Crohn’s DiseaseRecent clinical trials have produced dramatic results with 50% of Crohn’s patients achieving complete remission and over 90% achieving substantial improvement. The evidence for the use of cannabis in Crohn’s, ulcerative colitis and other forms of inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) is conclusive.Multiple SclerosisThere is a clear consensus amongst scientists and doctors that cannabis is safe and effective as a palliative treatment for MS. Further promising research is underway into whether cannabis may have a curative effect by promoting repair of the myelin sheath ConclusionCannabis clearly offers significant therapeutic benefits for a wide range of conditions without substantialrisks or unmanageable side effects.Cannabis should be transferredfrom schedule 1 to schedule 2 of the Misuse of Drugs Regulations.Current MHRA policies and fees on traditional herbal products and marketing authorisationsare an unnecessary obstacle to making medicinal cannabis available. The only practical solution is for doctors to prescribe Bedrocan products as unlicensed medicines.

The above is also from your link.

 

[jc100]

Thank you for the link. This is a very helpful link. The s Israel news paper is a "hippy publication"? lmao you're grasping at straws.

This is from your link. ty.

Medicinal Cannabis: The Evidence Abstract This paper reviews the evidence in support of the safety and efficacy of using raw herbal cannabis as medicine.It is widely claimed that there is insufficient evidence to support medicinal use but this is not borne out by the facts, let alone 10,000 years of human history. In fact,there is so much evidence available for so many conditions that this paper is restricted to conditions for which cannabis appears to have the most beneficial effects.Side effects and risks of medicinal cannabis are very well documented in the literature, muchof which is focused on identifying harms of recreational use. The risks are extremely lowin a therapeutic context compared with pharmaceutical medicines.

This is your argument? It clearly supports what I have been saying. ?!?

No it doesn’t. Very little evidence that marijuana has an effect on cancer. Everything else is pain related, muscle relaxant related or due to the effects of marijuana in the brain (feelings of wellbeing).

 

[jc100]

Delays onset is not a cure.....palliative is not a cure. Again, be careful. Do you know the number of potential drugs that work in vitro (Petri dishes) but fail miserably in vivo (animals). I’ve also worked in the Alzheimer’s area and there are drugs that have existed for a long time that delay onset. There’s also a massive issue with trying to work out how effective a drug is for an Alzheimer’s patient as results are skewed by the interactions with the patients themselves. Alzheimer’s patients do better with daily interactions from other people.

 

[boyoboy]

and further from your link,

"Studies And ClinicalTrialsCancerThe anti cancer propertiesof THC, CBD, CBG and other cannabinoids are wellestablished."

Scientists have been investigating them since the early 1970s and more than 1100 papers on cannabinoids and cancer have been published. (42)It is also well established that cannabis helps with the side effects of cancer treatments, particularly nausea and lack of appetite.(43,44,45,46)Cannabis may also help alleviate anxiety, depression, insomniaand mood disorders in cancer patients. However, some patients may find exactly the opposite results(47)A very large quantity of anecdotal reports detail remarkable results with cannabis oil on many different forms of cancer.(48)One of the most important properties of cannabis as a cancer therapy is that it is non-toxic and even if little therapeutic effect is achieved, it causes littleharm.On balance, while there is good evidence of anti cancer propertiesin vitro (human cell lines) and in vivo (animal) studies, there is little evidence of actual results in humans except in the treatment of basal cell carcinoma(49). However, few would disagree that the palliative value of cannabis is of great benefit to many cancer patients.(50)Clinical trials are underway on cancer pain(51)and the treatment of glioma brain cancer(52).These selected studies indicate the evidence currently available.Cannabinoids and cancer: potential for colorectal cancer therapy. Biochem Soc Trans. 2005. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16042581(53)A pilot clinical study of Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol in patients with recurrent glioblastoma multiforme, British Journal of Cancer, 2006 http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v95/n2/full/6603236a.html(54)Cannabinoids for Cancer Treatment: Progress and Promise. Cancer Res.2008. http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/68/2/339(55)Cannabidiol Induces Programmed Cell Death in Breast Cancer Cells by Coordinating the Cross-talk between Apoptosis and Autophagy. Mol Cancer Ther., 2011. http://mct.aacrjournals.org/content/10/7/1161.long(56)The intersection between cannabis and cancer in the United States. CROH, 2011. The intersection between cannabis and cancer in the United States: a new hope for breast cancer therapy? Cancer Treat Rev. 2012 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22776349(58)Towards the use of cannabinoids as antitumour agents. Nat Rev Cancer. 2012 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22555283(59)"