Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

danp said:
If my tesla hits something, just send my bill to Elon Musk.
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While I think that is reasonable, especially using summon or "full-self driving", that has very clearly played out as not the case. How they haven't been sued into oblivion for flagrant false advertising and killing people by beta-testing in public is shocking to me.
 
GreyGhost said:
They've had summon active for eight years. They dgaf.
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Some of the videos of the original summon were hilarious. There was one where the car literally just sat in a panic when it got into a tight spot with multiple cars and spun the steering wheel from lock to lock over and over again.

On another note, our 2017 Volt has the self-park option. I've tried it a few times out of curiosity, and yeah, it'll parallel park or back into a regular spot, but it's far from perfect and has scared me a few times at how close it gets to other vehicles, so I'll just use my own skills. I could see how it would be of some benefit to someone who can't park worth a **** I guess, it probably does better than some people can accomplish on their own.
 
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SunnY S said:
can't beat em, might as well own it

as stated earilier in this thread, if Chinese EVs make it here without tariffs, its game over.



www.yahoo.com

Ford’s CEO has been driving the competition’s EV for months—and doesn’t want to stop

Jim Farley previously said Chinese EVs are Ford’s biggest competitors.
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Agreed. Main issue would be the dealer / warranty support but if they throw enough money at it...done deal.

Unless of course they were to crank their prices to match existing EV prices, then they would be dead before they sold their first car.

In other news....4 dead due to a high speed crash that caused the EV battery to burst. 1 was pulled out of the vehicle by bystanders, the rest died (assumingly) from the battery fire.

toronto.citynews.ca

Four dead, woman seriously injured in fiery Tesla crash in Toronto

Toronto Police Service officers were notified of a crash just after midnight in the Lake Shore Boulevard East and Cherry Street area.
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mimico_polak said:
Agreed. Main issue would be the dealer / warranty support but if they throw enough money at it...done deal.

Unless of course they were to crank their prices to match existing EV prices, then they would be dead before they sold their first car.

In other news....4 dead due to a high speed crash that caused the EV battery to burst. 1 was pulled out of the vehicle by bystanders, the rest died (assumingly) from the battery fire.

toronto.citynews.ca

Four dead, woman seriously injured in fiery Tesla crash in Toronto

Toronto Police Service officers were notified of a crash just after midnight in the Lake Shore Boulevard East and Cherry Street area.
toronto.citynews.ca toronto.citynews.ca
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Ev fires make the news and people like to bring them up as a huge issue but statistically, they are under-represetned from what I can find. High speed crash in any vehicle can result in fire and/or death.

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Hit was really hard. Driver was probably done for even without the fire. Twitter post calls it a Tesla, I'm not convinced. Which model was it? I guess it could be a 3 but the haunches look more pronounced.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1849419343890653444
 
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This is what happens when you have idiots with too much power behind the wheel.

Let's assume that it's not a DUI. Just a driver going way too fast for conditions.

EDIT: I've had the chance to drive both the 3, and the Y and holy hell those things can accelerate fast. The weight, and sound deadening inside is really good as masking the actual speed and without a speedo in front of you...easy enough to blow past HT172 territory very quickly.

I've got a video somewhere that I (stupidly) took of myself accelerating from 40kph - 160kph on an on-ramp...ridiculous how fast those numbers jump up...and it wasn't the Plaid / Performance version of the Y.
 
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SunnY S said:
can't beat em, might as well own it

as stated earilier in this thread, if Chinese EVs make it here without tariffs, its game over.
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When the microwave oven inventor visited Asia intending to sell completed units he quickly realized America could not compete...instead he sold the rights to the technology AND acquired the rights to the North American market for the built units.
China dominates solar panel production...so what.
 
At 5pm Scout Motors is gonna reveal their new EVs. Rumour is an SUV and a mid-sized pickup.

Scouts always come back

We're designing, engineering, and building the next generation of electric trucks and rugged SUVs for the doers, makers, and explorers. The new Scout® Traveler™ and Terra™ models are here, born from the original legend, retooled for a new era.
www.scoutmotors.com www.scoutmotors.com
 
MacDoc said:
When the microwave oven inventor visited Asia intending to sell completed units he quickly realized America could not compete...instead he sold the rights to the technology AND acquired the rights to the North American market for the built units.
China dominates solar panel production...so what.
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It's not a big deal as long as people here are prepared to make two to $3 an hour

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If we "all" bought Chinese ev's at rock bottom prices, the auto industries would collapse, along with all the business's that support those industries. That could be very harmful to the economy.
Does that make the consumer responsible? Yes it does. And it makes the people that voted in the government that allowed it, responsible as well.
 
Wingboy said:
If we "all" bought Chinese ev's at rock bottom prices, the auto industries would collapse, along with all the business's that support those industries. That could be very harmful to the economy.
Does that make the consumer responsible? Yes it does. And it makes the people that voted in the government that allowed it, responsible as well.
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This is what I don't get about people who "rah rah" Chinese everything, including cars. It's literally shooting ourselves in our feet and then it's a race to the bottom. You can't compete with a country that pumps government money into industry in order to dominate and eliminate, pays basically poverty wages to it's people, has next to no safety standards in many cases, and treats people like easily replaceable (disposable, one might argue in many cases) automatons.

The auto industry employees about 4.5 million people in north america. Let the market flood with cheap chinese cars and almost all of those jobs are at risk...as good as gone most would say. But the CCP will get what they ultimately want, further control over North America.
 
Wingboy said:
If we "all" bought Chinese ev's at rock bottom prices, the auto industries would collapse, along with all the business's that support those industries. That could be very harmful to the economy.
Does that make the consumer responsible? Yes it does. And it makes the people that voted in the government that allowed it, responsible as well.
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Im glad they allowed the japanese to bring their great cars here.

otherwise Id be stuck driving a malibu.



As for "import" manufacturers hurting the economy?

BTW, In 2022, Toyota assembled the most vehicles of any manufacturer in Canada (building more vehicles than the Ford and General Motors combined) and Honda was the third largest producer out of the five Canadian vehicle manufacturers.

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Always thought the Ford Transit would be a winner....this should be insanely popular.

2025 Ford E-Transit electric costs the same or less than the gas version​

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electrek.co

Absolutely WILD Hyundai N RN24 concept is here to steal the show

New passenger-hauling SUVs? Lifestyle pickups? Promises about affordable, self-driving EVs? You won't find any of that trash at Hyundai!
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and hehe
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Ford CEO Jim Farley has been driving a Chinese EV over the past six months, calling it “fantastic.” After flying the Xiaomi Speed Ultra 7 (SU7) from Shanghai to Chicago, Farley doesn’t want to give it up.
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electrek.co

Absolutely WILD Hyundai N RN24 concept is here to steal the show

New passenger-hauling SUVs? Lifestyle pickups? Promises about affordable, self-driving EVs? You won't find any of that trash at Hyundai!
electrek.co electrek.co
 
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SunnY S said:
Im glad they allowed the japanese to bring their great cars here.
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The difference being Japanese and Korean (etc) manufacturers actually setup plants here and build cars here. And pay living wages.

Let me know when all these new Chinese car makers plan to do the same. The answer will be basically, never….because they’d not only lose the price advantage by being forced to actually compete on a level playing field, but they’d also loose all that sweet, sweet CCP money since there’s no way North America would let all that shadowy money just flow over here to clearly subsidize plants on foreign soil.
 
danp said:
At 5pm Scout Motors is gonna reveal their new EVs. Rumour is an SUV and a mid-sized pickup.

Scouts always come back

We're designing, engineering, and building the next generation of electric trucks and rugged SUVs for the doers, makers, and explorers. The new Scout® Traveler™ and Terra™ models are here, born from the original legend, retooled for a new era.
www.scoutmotors.com www.scoutmotors.com
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Well these look lovely...


Let's see if / when they actually make it to market.
 
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