Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

[Dirty Frank]

Again, it's only "uncompetitive" when the other side isn't playing on a level playing field.

If you ran a company making widgets that cost you $75 to make and you sell for $100, making $25 profit....and all of a sudden a chinese company comes along awash in CCP government money and is pushing out those same widgets that "cost" them only $20 to make and sell for $50, yeah, you'd be screaming too.

And you and every other company selling widgets would go out of business since you'd be forced to sell each widget at a $25 loss.

And once you and every other widget maker has gone bankrupt (and perhaps that CCP money also slows down once they've reached "Mission accomplished) and they have the market all to themselves, they can not only jack up those prices to whatever they want since they don't have any competition anymore, but everyone in North American is driving around chinese electronics, which is a whole other ball of wax no matter how much people want to discount that whole thing.

As for the Norway thing, their willingness to just welcome chinese EV's in to flood the market is somewhat hypocritical from a "Lets be green, YAY!" standpoint since almost their entire economy is based on oil and gas, but oil and gas that is exported to Europe. The CCP cars becoming a monopoly there makes little difference to them from an anticompetitive standpoint as they have no meaningful auto manufacturing industry anyways, and then they can yell about being "green" when their population (which number less than half that of the population of Ontario alone, one must also remember, in an entire country also less than half the size of just Ontario as well) drive electric cars. Yay Norway?

China did that play with cast wheels, automotive, motorcycle exct.
If they spot a niche that they can throw resources at and dominate they move in with government funding and its over for the competition in short order unless there is some sort of governmental intervention like tariffs.

 

[SunnY S]

VW, BMW and Mercedes Are Getting Left in the Dust by China’s EVs

(Bloomberg) -- Ryan Xu was a dream customer for Germany’s automakers. The Guangdong-based entrepreneur and her husband own a Porsche 911 and a Mercedes-Benz G-Class and were among the first buyers of the electric Porsche Taycan. Most Read from BloombergHow Mexico City Averted All-Out...

www.yahoo.com

 

[PrivatePilot]

Almost at page 500 in this thread. Wowzers, I’d never have expected that when I started it.

 

[GreyGhost]

Almost at page 500 in this thread. Wowzers, I’d never have expected that when I started it.

And the bumper is still attached to the Volt that started it all.

 

[PrivatePilot]

And the bumper is still attached to the Volt that started it all.

I was waiting for page 500 of the thread to post a list of all the parts that have not fallen off my car.

 

[Ash]

Major electric motorcycle maker Energica files for bankruptcy

The Italian electric motorcycle maker Energica has officially declared that it is ceasing operations and entering bankruptcy proceedings, ending speculation...

electrek.co

Energica supplied the spec-series MotoE bikes for a handful of years. The bikes were noticeably very heavy compared to the other GP classes and the screaming of the front tire under braking was a very distinctive part of the races.

 

[SunnY S]

Almost at page 500 in this thread. Wowzers, I’d never have expected that when I started it.

and it should have ended at post 2.

here we are in 2024. Hybrids are the way to go, and Tesla does it best.

 

[PrivatePilot]

and it should have ended at post 2.

here we are in 2024. Hybrids are the way to go, and Tesla does it best.

And yet here we are still waiting for you to actually put your money where your mouth is like @Evoex
said.

You can get a cheap Toyota Mirai right now if you really want to indulge your hydrogen car desires.

Let us know how it goes for you.

BTW, nobody’s forcing you to remain in the thread, you can check out anytime.

 

[SunnY S]

And yet here we are still waiting for you to actually put your money where your mouth is like @Evoex
said.

I'm anxiously waiting for GM to ressurect the much ballyhooed Volt on this thread.

You almost had me convinced.....

 

[PrivatePilot]

I'm anxiously waiting for GM to ressurect the much bally hooed Volt on this thread.

You almost had me convinced.....

Yeah, we get it, 498 pages later, still only here to troll….

 

[klr_guy]

I'm anxiously waiting for GM to ressurect the much bally hooed Volt on this thread.

I'm anxiously waiting for GM to ressurect the much ballyhooed Volt on this thread.

You almost had me convinced.....

Do you play goalkeeper? Helluva deflection.

 

[PrivatePilot]

Do you play goalkeeper? Helluva deflection.

Like I said, it's abundantly clear he's only here to troll this specific thread. It's literally 95% of his entire participation at GTAM.

 

[mimico_polak]

Interesting...

Confirmed - BMW and Toyota team up to build the engine that changes everything

BMW and Toyota have solidified a groundbreaking partnership to develop a revolutionary engine, surpassing even the advanced technology behind electricity and

unionrayo.com

 

[Brian P]

Only problem is that it's a rubbish clickbait article containing no useful information. Nothing on what it is or how it works. I smell AI.

 

[PrivatePilot]

Only problem is that it's a rubbish clickbait article containing no useful information. Nothing on what it is or how it works. I smell AI.

I was going to say, the source seems rather sketch.

If we see this same story in some more reputable places on the EV / automotive sphere then it’s worth further consideration

 

[SunnY S]

Once again, the "market" speaks

(Sorry if this considered a troll post).

Plug-in hybrids aren't quite working as a transition to electric cars

Consumers aren't too happy with their plug-in hybrids, despite the fact they're billed as a bridge between gas-powered cars and electric vehicles

qz.com

 

[Brian P]

I am fine with having gone straight to BEV, skipping the hybrid step.

 

[PrivatePilot]

I am fine with having gone straight to BEV, skipping the hybrid step.

PHEV was designed as a steppingstone for the unsure people who weren’t ready to make that level of commitment. Range anxiety blah blah blah.

Unfortunately the right wing anti-EV/anti-environmental whackadoodles have done a massive amount of damage to EV adoption in the last few years, and PHEV‘s have suffered even more despite being an excellent solution to a real problem.

While much of the rest of the world is moving on from internal combustion, the sentiment on the side of the pond seems to be firmly stuck in the past and EV’s are swamped in misinformation and downright lies online which is part of what is hampering adoption.

 

[Brian P]

And the Volt made a whole lot of sense back when public charging infrastructure was nonexistent. Still does, in places that are behind the times.

 

[GreyGhost]

And the Volt made a whole lot of sense back when public charging infrastructure was nonexistent. Still does, in places that are behind the times.

It's also still a competent single family vehicle solution. I wouldnt have a bev as the only family vehicle right now. I'm not renting a car for a >400 km day and bev makes those trips painful if they don't end at home. Even heading to the inlaws cottage would be tight unless I slow charged all weekend. Some people wpuldnt appreciate you "stealing" their power even if it's only a few bucks.

I'd be happy with one bev as long as the other vehicle could deal with long trips.