Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

Why is it that all the well priced EVs are from Quebec?

I’ve got an aversion to QC cars for some reason (I think it’s due to their VIN washing history), and it really limits any options.
 
Quebec is the closest province with the highest EV market penetration, much higher than Ontario. It stands to reason that there will be more used ones from there!

(Didn't PrivatePilot buy one from Quebec a while back?)
 
mimico_polak said:
Why is it that all the well priced EVs are from Quebec?

I’ve got an aversion to QC cars for some reason (I think it’s due to their VIN washing history), and it really limits any options.
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As Brian says, there's just so many more of them there. Sheer numbers = better resale market.

I bought our 2017 there, thread discussion on that process started here.

PrivatePilot

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So, we have a refundable deposit on a 2017 Ioniq in the Montreal area at a big dealer. Going next weekend to check it out, and if it works out, probably drive it home.

I spoke to a salesman there yesterday about it and he was super helpful - well versed on selling to Ontarians. He said that there's a few ways to handle the tax situation, but they opt for the one that makes it easiest for his customers - you pay the QC taxes (HST) on the bill of sale (and finance if as part of the transaction to keep it all simple), and then they cut you a cheque on the spot for the exact amount of the...

In related news @mimico_polak, check out post 2525 in this thread a few responses below that link lol.
 
I searched up the email address for the salesperson we dealt with before in Quebec and am going to email him. I'm more and more confident we'll end up buying our next EV in Quebec again as the prices are just so much more competitive, and the choice so much greater. The process was super smooth, they were familiar with selling to people in Ontario so they handled the process of getting the Quebec portion of the taxes refunded, cutting us a cheque literally as we finished signing the papers. When we registered it in Ontario then we paid the Ontario portion of the taxes separately.
 
My cynical thought of the day goes out to elon and all the tesla bots that were singing the praise of the explosion containment of the cyber truck.
They are missing a marketing opportunity as they need to sell one to every police force with a EOD unit. Think how handy it would be for them to have such a mobile blast confinement device around.
Pure marketing genius...
 
PrivatePilot said:
I searched up the email address for the salesperson we dealt with before in Quebec and am going to email him. I'm more and more confident we'll end up buying our next EV in Quebec again as the prices are just so much more competitive, and the choice so much greater. The process was super smooth, they were familiar with selling to people in Ontario so they handled the process of getting the Quebec portion of the taxes refunded, cutting us a cheque literally as we finished signing the papers. When we registered it in Ontario then we paid the Ontario portion of the taxes separately.
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My only concern with a QC car is the VIN washing history...how do you even protect yourself in those times?
 
mimico_polak said:
My only concern with a QC car is the VIN washing history...how do you even protect yourself in those times?
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Do the best due diligence you can do.

Buy from a reputable dealer.

Get a Carfax.

Crawl around underneath it and check that it doesn’t have telltales of major structural repair.

Check and see if a UVIP comes up in Ontario as a lot of the vehicles that they rebuild there were originally from here and might still show up as registered here.

For me, buying from a big reputable dealer was the main priority. I wouldn’t touch anything from a corner lot dealer or private seller there honestly.

I emailed the sales person last night that I had dealt with before in 2017 and he got back to me within 20 minutes, I told him what we are looking for and he said he will keep an eye open.
 
mimico_polak said:
A new entrant from Honda / Afeela...

www.theverge.com

Sony and Honda’s Afeela electric car will start at $89,900

The Afeela is coming into focus.
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$90,000 USD - forget it.

When do you think $15,000 CAD electric cars with 300km range will be widely available in Canada?

The following article asking question if I'd buy one - definitely!
My bike is more expensive, looks like no brainer to me if such cars sold through dealerships with usual warranties and support... And I don't care where and who made it - money talks.




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BYD Seagull - Wikipedia

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SunnY S said:
Don't know about the $15g part, but a cheaper tesla is def coming.

www.wired.com

Elon Musk Says a Cheaper Tesla Model Is Coming in 2025 as Chinese Competition Intensifies

A low-cost model of Tesla will launch in 2025, CEO Elon Musk told investors. It could help the EV maker compete with BYD and other surging Chinese automakers.
www.wired.com www.wired.com
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I so hope Tesla will make a DUMB cheap model one day - no all these cameras, self-driving bs, just a bare minimum electronics - that should cut the cost a lot...
 
Sochi said:
I so hope Tesla will make a DUMB cheap model one day - no all these cameras, self-driving bs, just a bare minimum electronics - that should cut the cost a lot...
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Never ever happening. All of that stuff is their core path to the future. They need their vehicles deployed en mass to collect as much data as possible to try to improve self-driving.
 
Sochi said:
$90,000 USD - forget it.

When do you think $15,000 CAD electric cars with 300km range will be widely available in Canada?
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Never. Average new vehicle price is over $50K now. You can pull that average down by offering vehicles at $40K. You would be stupid to offer vehicles at $15K (and I'm not convinced that is even possible with the mandated government features like crash protection, air bags, cameras, automatic emergency braking, etc etc). Just like building codes, government creep in vehicle regulations constantly increases prices. I think the new building code requires sub-slab piping for radon mitigation installed on every new house. How many people have even bothered testing for radon yet alone paid for mitigation? That doesn't matter, everybody pays for it now.
 
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