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Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

GreyGhost said:
Heat pump seems like a good idea in theory but a fail in implementation. Apparently most use the battery as the other side of the thermo circuit. The times you want the most heat inside the cabin, the battery probably has no extra heat to give (and may be wanting heat itself).
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Our Ioniq had a heat pump, it was a cold climate option.

I can tell you without doubt it worked well. You could watch the GOM and energy screens and see exactly when the aux grid heat (during high demand) kicked off and it went into heat pump mode - dramaticaly lower energy consumption.

It worked the same as a home heat pump, pulling heat trom the AC condensor at the front of the car - AC in reverse effectively. The battery didn't come into play at all, and I don't think it does really on any EV with a heat pump.
 
The fancier heat pump systems have multiple heat exchangers and can pull heat from wherever it's available and put it where it's needed. But, in a stone cold start situation, it isn't available anywhere and it's needed for both interior and battery. Running the heat pump in intentional-power-waste mode is no more efficient than electric resistance heat. In moderate-temperature steady conditions, it can pull heat from powertrain or outdoors, and that's good. If you do a fast-charge, it can pull heat out of the battery, and that's good.

Bolt just uses resistance heating. This past week, during my normal running around, HVAC used ~20% of the power used. That's what is on the table. If a heat pump used half that then perhaps the range would be 10% better.

Settings: temperature 20 C, "auto" but fan speed lowered to 2nd or 3rd lowest, heated seats and steering wheel automatically controlled, remote-start while plugged in before leaving home.
 
Where the heat pump shined was on longer trips once the cold-soak was out of the interior and the actual vent temps required to maintain it comfortable in there were much reduced.

My sister has a Kia Soul EV which was basically an identical drivetrain and battery to our Gen1 Ioniq and I know our winter range was notably better than hers without the heat pump option.
 
My '24 Polestar 2 has a heat pump (part of the Plus package) and except for those days when we were at -15 I've been running the climate on Eco with no heat issues at all (usually set at 21 auto).

My range keeps getting better and better and this morning I woke up to 390 km at 90% state of charge (and that was with a bit of highway yesterday). That'd equate to 433 km if I charged it to 100%. I'm loving it. I can see 500+ easy come spring.
 
Thoughts on going to Turo and just renting some cars of interest for a 2 day period? Not many want to bother with a single day, but I don't see many good options to get familiar with a car over more than a 15min test drive.
 
Brian P said:
Does the GOM appear to at least roughly coincide with reality?
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Good question and outside of a Niagara Falls trip during that cold snap I took 1 day after delivery I haven't really taken it anywhere outside of commute & weekend duties. My initial guess is it's close.

I'll add my trip km's over the next couple of days and see where I stand vs the GOM ...
 
mimico_polak said:
Thoughts on going to Turo and just renting some cars of interest for a 2 day period? Not many want to bother with a single day, but I don't see many good options to get familiar with a car over more than a 15min test drive.
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That's a great option but maybe reach out to the renter and see if they'd do a shorter rental.
 
I am not watching what is sure to be clickbait nonsense. My Bolt, averaged over the year, does what GM says it would (less range in winter, WHICH IS TO BE EXPECTED, offset by more range in summer). And GM delays with Ultium have been partly (mostly?) due to production headaches due to supplier screw-ups. I am absolutely NOT listening to Scotty Kilmer rant. I can't stand him.
 
GP_RZ said:
I Like Scotties take on the Electric Vehicle.

GM and Honda Backing out.
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That was painful to watch. All I got out of that is 'I hate electric cars and here's why you should also'.

There are limitations to EVs 100%. Majority of gripes are from people that won't get into an EV because it doesn't make sense to them.

My buddy drives 300-500km/day and ***** on them all day long because they're 'overpriced grocery getters'. Yes..that's the point. They're great grocery getters, and are not for your very specific usage case. He won't change his mind, I won't bother changing his mind and that's fine...because they work for a lot of people, but won't work for everyone.
 
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mimico_polak said:
$76M and 6 years gone in a puff of smoke…

www.westernstandard.news

After six years and $76.1 million worth of studies, Natural Resources Canada says winter EV tests inconclusive

Natural Resources Canada says winter EV tests inconclusive
www.westernstandard.news www.westernstandard.news
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How many people earning more than 100k got provided evs to "test" winter range. Government needs to get its head out of its ass. Almost none of that matters to canadians and is worthy of our tax dollars. If ev's are good or suck in the winter, consumers will sort that out very quickly.
 
LBV said:
Good question and outside of a Niagara Falls trip during that cold snap I took 1 day after delivery I haven't really taken it anywhere outside of commute & weekend duties. My initial guess is it's close.

I'll add my trip km's over the next couple of days and see where I stand vs the GOM ...
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So after driving for a couple of days without charging here are the #'s:

I started the GOM (guess-o-meter) at 390 km and ended it at 290 km. The car only goes up/down in increments of 10 so I got the odometer mileage as soon as it went to 290 (the 390 was the morning start after a full charge).

I drove 96 actual km and used up 100 GOM km. So that's a 96% accuracy rating. Not too bad and that's including cabin preheating while unplugged at work and other places.

This morning the GOM showed 400 km at 90% charge, equating to 444 km if I charged to 100%, so it continues to get better for me as it adjusts to my driving and cabin comfort settings.

It's exceeding my expectations! ('24 Polestar 2 Single Motor Long Range with the Plus pack btw)
 
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