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Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

Brian P said:
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My Bolt's GOM is remarkably good as long as I drive the way I usually drive, and don't pull a surprise on it. It varies quite a bit between winter and summer ...
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Winter/summer differences in my car are confounding me. I regularly run Markham to Timmins in a 1.4t Chev Cruze. 6l/100km on my summer drives, 6 samples dead on the same, I fill up when I leave and make the distance on 1 tank.

Last winter Feb, outbound was 7.4, return 7.3, needed a fuel stop each way, wrote it off as an anomaly. On Friday my northbound was again 7.4, and again I needed a fuel stop.

I expected cold to be better. Denser air, windows closed and no AC. But no, 20% more gas in the cold.

Only diff is tires, snows vs summers. Got me puzzled.
 
Mad Mike said:
Winter/summer differences in my car are confounding me. I regularly run Markham to Timmins in a 1.4t Chev Cruze. 6l/100km on my summer drives, 6 samples dead on the same, I fill up when I leave and make the distance on 1 tank.

Last winter Feb, outbound was 7.4, return 7.3, needed a fuel stop each way, wrote it off as an anomaly. On Friday my northbound was again 7.4, and again I needed a fuel stop.

I expected cold to be better. Denser air, windows closed and no AC. But no, 20% more gas in the cold.

Only diff is tires, snows vs summers. Got me puzzled.
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Snow tires can make a huge (negative) difference in fuel mileage. Winter gas can negatively affect fuel mileage. Pushing denser air out of the way takes more fuel. Extra power potential from denser air isn't helpful.
 
Tesla's run amuck in the movie i watched last nite. "Leave the World Behind".
 
SunnY S said:
Seems plausible. They are shutting down the engine plant there next summer. Something has to fill the void. They have 450 acres of land.

Great for Ontario. Go Honda!
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Yes and a big chunk of it is vacant on the east side.
 
GreyGhost said:
Stating tested range is nothing new. Ford ecoboost is the poster child for marketing being distant from reality.
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Doing it in the gasoline world is a nothingburger to 90% of people out there. Hell, if you asked probably 70% of the drivers out there I'd bet they couldn't tell you how many L/100km their vehicle is using if their life depended on it. They just drive until the gas guage hits "E" and then buy gas and complain about the cost of said gas, or how much of it they use.

But put an EV newbie or toe-dipper in an EV that says "500km" front and centre on the dash (as EV's do, of course), is advertised to get 500km, and then that car only goes 400km, suddenly they're all indignant and "EV's suck".

So the EV world needs to do better as they are still trying to reach acceptance. The public won't take that ****, even though it's totally normal, and even though their gas car does the exact same thing (but have no idea most of the time...).

Brian P said:
"Data collected in 2022 and 2023 from more than 8,000 Teslas by Recurrent, a Seattle-based EV analytics company, showed that the cars’ dashboard range meters didn’t change their estimates to reflect hot or cold outside temperatures, which can greatly reduce range.
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Our 2017 Ioniq changed the range display second by second. If you cranked the heat it went down instantly. If you turned down the heat, it went up instantly. Drive hard and it trended down very fast. Drive gently and it trended up very fast.

Heck, even my "horribly engineered" 13 year old Volt trends the GOM pretty fast in those same situations.

Somehow Tesla can't seem to accomplish this, I guess Hyundai is the only one with the technology.

Brian P said:
"The automaker also recently updated its vehicle software to provide a breakdown of battery consumption during recent trips with suggestions on how range might have been improved."

And the Bolt has had that since the start of production.
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But GM has "horrible engineering", some say.
 
LBV said:
Well, after reading the reviews on the updated 2024 Polestar 2 (went RWD from FWD, new motor for more power, new battery for more range, heat pump) I leased a demo single motor long range with Plus package on Friday. 515 km EPA summer range with expected high 300's winter was always my happy starting point with the way the unreliable charging infrastructe is (non-Tesla).

I've never leased in my life but I didn't want to get stuck with yesterdays battery tech as it's advancing quickly and who knows where it'll be in 4 years (only way a lease can get the EV rebate is a 4 yr lease). Just as importantly, I can invest the low $60k's and earn more than the 4.9% lease rate so I think financially it'll make sense for me.

So my 2017 Volt Premiere with about 94k km is up for sale for $20k (incl winter set of OE rims and X-Ice tires). Will miss the car but that Polestar is 1 sweet drive (they appeared to sell to everyone that sat down with a salesman over the time I was there). Certainly more premium and wow what a ton of features I'm learning about watching YT videos.

I hope to pick up the car this week. Anyone interested in the Volt, PM me.

Video link for anyone curious on the P2:

At 33:10 is where he gets into the white single motor like I have.

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Looks like a winner. did you get yours yet?

 
Video about some bugs in regenerative braking software.
 
SunnY S said:
Looks like a winner. did you get yours yet?

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I did on Saturday yes ... it drives really nice but outside of the drive home from the dealership in Oakville, I haven't driven it more than a few km due to the threat of snow. It's got A/S tires and I've just ordered a winter set for it that hopefully arrives this week.

I charged it to 100% (Polestar recommends 90%) just to see what I could get and it's at 420 km a the moment but that'll adjust as I drive it more.

Further comments to come as I get more seat time ...
 
SunnY S said:


not totally unusual.

I had a customer who wanted to upgrade his service to 200amps, so he could charge is fancy new Audi E car and hydro quoted him $21,000 to tunnel a new line from xfmr to his meter base.

I've had other customers pay $10 to 14g to tunnel 200amps to their house.
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Wow that's an amazing non-story so he just bought a proper charger plugs his truck in everything is fine what is the story why bother

Sent from the future
 
Scuba Steve said:
Wow that's an amazing non-story so he just bought a proper charger plugs his truck in everything is fine what is the story why bother

Sent from the future
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I am surprised that the provided charger is 80 amps only. Most can be turned down as they realize not everyone has a huge pipe.
 
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