Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

Couple other things have leaked about the Cybertruck. (these are leaks - they're subject to being wrong - but I'd rank them as "plausible")

Battery capacity 123 kWh. That's same-ballpark as Rivian and F150 Lightning. That tracks with the curb weight (~ 6700 lbs) being same-ballpark as Rivian and F150 Lightning. (That curb weight also tracks with the whole thing NOT being made from 4mm-thick stainless steel ... maybe some parts might be, but not the whole thing, but that's another matter)

Drag coefficient ... someone with CFD experience made a mathematical model of the Cybertruck as accurately as they could suss out from known dimensions and photos, with the objective of establishing Cd. It's 0.39. I'd say that's plausible. Most pickup trucks nowadays (which have all seen the wind tunnel during development) are in that vicinity. There are some things that hurt it: lots of ground clearance (too much air gets underneath ... note the air dams that a lot of other pickup trucks have nowadays to cut down on this), projecting fenders (side of the truck is aerodynamically pretty dirty because of this), and the sharp corners up front and at the A-pillars disrupt flow as it transitions onto the sides. (A-pillars are normally rounded because of this.) I saw the model ... didn't have outside mirrors, didn't have the windscreen wiper.

Marques Brownlee (youtuber) evidently got his hands on one. No video posted yet but he posted a screenshot on social media ... which showed the state-of-charge (bar graph showing 9-and-a-bit out of, we think 10 bars) and range remaining (265 miles). That suggests range being 290-ish miles (470-ish km). Unknown what the surrounding circumstances were. But ... the combination of battery capacity, and vehicle weight, and drag, and a guesstimation of the range, all rate as plausible in my opinion.

Unknown why Tesla allowed him to post that screen-shot (I'm sure he wouldn't have done it without their permission). Reaction has been a combination of people shell-shocked that it's not 500 miles, and the realisation that physics applies to Tesla just as it applies to everyone else.

The thing that we don't know, and may not find out until later, is whether Tesla have protected space underneath the vehicle for more battery capacity in a different version of this vehicle later on. With technology that we have today, it'll need a battery of same-ballpark size and weight as GM's big-boy 212 kWh Hummer/Silverado EV battery in order to get 500 miles of range (the GM will do 450). There's no magic here ...
 
Ever see under the hood of one of those things. It's a mess. I posted a picture once.
Any modern vehicle is rough to work on as manufacturers dngaf about ease of repair. They want ease of manufacture, overall form factor and cheap. Add in hybrid and things get even more cramped.
 
Any modern vehicle is rough to work on as manufacturers dngaf about ease of repair. They want ease of manufacture, overall form factor and cheap. Add in hybrid and things get even more cramped.

Nah. Do a search for my post. I posted a picture from the Maverick showing how atrocious it was, and another from a brand showing a buttoned down clean example of how its done
 
Nah. Do a search for my post. I posted a picture from the Maverick showing how atrocious it was, and another from a brand showing a buttoned down clean example of how its done
So you think more covers hiding the chaos that is every engine bay makes things better? I am ok with agree to disagree on that one.

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Yup. As expected. I give plastic covers less than zero points. They make it harder to maintain, harder to spot leaks, etc. They are worse than useless imo. Others feel differently and that's ok.
 
I prefer seeing the bits as opposed to having to remove tupperware to get at them. Same for motorcycles.
 
Buy an electric, you'll save money..,.

Stupid article. It's been discussed. Take your beloved 6 year old MDX to the dealer and ask them to put in a brand new motor. Price will be beyond economical repair. Go to an indy shop, put in used and everything changes (in both cases). In this case, there wasn't even a proper diagnostic done. Sounds like a dealer that is digging in their heels on EV's.
 
Buy an electric, you'll save money..,.

The article itself states that there was no proper diagnostics done. Bad choice of articles to support your case.

- no proper diagnostics
- customer didn’t even let Hyundai resolve it before they scrapped the car
- customer is an idiot for not getting a second or third opinion from other dealers
- customer is an idiot for not looking at other options

As other said if your old ICE needs a motor shop it to a dealer and a small shop…huge difference.

Especially now I’ve seen dealers reaching the $200/hr shop rate. When I was in the business Jaguar had $79-89/hr and everyone was scared to crack the $100/hr rate…not anymore.
 
with the number(s) being thrown around [1400-1600] that seems a little excessive. in automotive when we launch a new facility we send some of our own senior people down to train the locals.

obviously not apples to apples but i can't imagine why 'half' the employees need to be sourced from outside the country, but wtf do i know about batteries.
I remember doing telecom infrastructure in the 80s and 90s, more than 1/2 the staff doing initial deployment of the networks and COs were imports. We came, installed, commissioned, trained locals then left.

How many Canadians have fitted and commissioned a billion dollar battery plant?
 
I remember doing telecom infrastructure in the 80s and 90s, more than 1/2 the staff doing initial deployment of the networks and COs were imports. We came, installed, commissioned, trained locals then left.

How many Canadians have fitted and commissioned a billion dollar battery plant?
was posted before i understood they were coming to install infrastructure and not the day to day employees.
 
PSA: If you decide to use the outdoor nitrogen pumps outside in the parking stalls, be aware that they won't operate unless there's a minimum pressure in your tires to begin with (don't know what it is). So if you had to top up your previously nitrogen-filled tires with regular air and are OCD, don't try to do a flush at these pumps.
My OE nitro filled tires are now 6 years old, about 70k on them. I have never pulled off a valve cap, all 4 tires have stayed in the standard operating pressure window since new.

When are nitrogen filled brakes coming?
 
My OE nitro filled tires are now 6 years old, about 70k on them. I have never pulled off a valve cap, all 4 tires have stayed in the standard operating pressure window since new.

When are nitrogen filled brakes coming?
Mine need air every time it gets cold.
 
So on the eve of the Cybertruck's official presentation ...

An event has occurred which involves Elon Musk, which involves advertisers who have recently pulled their ads from, and (in many cases) their participation in Xwitter, being told to do something that I cannot describe here because it would be a non-family-friendly violation of forum rules. Mere surfing of Xwitter now will reveal the non-family-friendly thing that Elon Musk told those companies to do.

I can imagine memos going out very shortly to all personnel in those advertising departments, to never reinstate advertising in or participation in Xwitter as long as current ownership/management remains ...

I have an EV. It isn't a Tesla. I'm good with that.
 
Kona EV - 2nd on the list due to space and potential idiotic placement of the charger. Minor hit on the front bumper can screw up the charge port

I can't imagine it would be enjoyable trying to open that with an inch of frozen slush after a winter commute. It's hard enough opening the little side doors sometimes.
 
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