Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

Up 'til now, Tesla chargers have only had to communicate with Tesla cars which have "plug and charge" (via VIN communication) by default and whose owners have a Tesla account set up by default.

What's going to happen when they have to communicate with random cars which may or may not have "plug and charge" capability and with random payment methods ... remains to be seen.

It appears that the Hyundai-group vehicles can only charge at 50 kW when plugged into one of the Tesla superchargers with the "magic dock" due to some wierd compatibility issue.

www.ioniqforum.com

Magic Dock for DC charging Ioniq 5 at Tesla...

Does anyone have experience using Magic Dock? The March 2023 issue of Motor Trend identified failures trying to charge an Ioniq 5 using Magic Dock. (We Plugged a Ford, a Hyundai, and a VW into Tesla’s Magic Dock Superchargers. Only Two Vehicles Charged.) Has the problem been resolved?
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The current Tesla charging stations are not designed for 800V-architecture vehicles.
 
Sochi said:
I hope this new solid state tech for batteries comes sooner - up to 1000 miles potential range and faster charging

www.motorauthority.com

Toyota touts 745-mile range, 10-minute charge for solid-state battery

Toyota says it has discovered a “technological breakthrough” in its solid-state battery research.
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I would say, the focus should be on faster charging in a manner that doesn't blow up the battery longevity vs the range.

Fairly certain anyone could get by with a 200ishkm range battery that does 80% in 10 minutes.
 
Evoex said:
I would say, the focus should be on faster charging in a manner that doesn't blow up the battery longevity vs the range.

Fairly certain anyone could get by with a 200ishkm range battery that does 80% in 10 minutes.
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Def agree, range here would help to reduce charging time - if say it's 20min to 80% of 200 max is 160km, so 10min to say 40% of 750max still gives 300km. So it would be not the maximum range but faster charges to get decent mileage back... (no sleeping in the car as I see often times at the charging station next to our Town Hall lol)
 
"Fairly certain anyone could get by with a 200ishkm range battery that does 80% in 10 minutes."

... and there are enough places to get it done at.
 
Also I just realized - Solid State Batteries supposed to me much lighter (smaller = more dense) so we might finally see breakthrough in Electric Motorcycles designs for weight/range ratio improvements...
 
LBV said:
"Fairly certain anyone could get by with a 200ishkm range battery that does 80% in 10 minutes."

... and there are enough places to get it done at.
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Tesla opening up their supercharger network in NA last i heard.
 
Sochi said:
Also I just realized - Solid State Batteries supposed to me much lighter (smaller = more dense) so we might finally see breakthrough in Electric Motorcycles designs for weight/range ratio improvements...
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meh, i think electric motos are already pretty decent battery wise. if you want to just take b roads and urban runs then it's a great option. the minute you have to bomb the highways it's the motors that are holding things back.
 
Evoex said:
meh, i think electric motos are already pretty decent battery wise. if you want to just take b roads and urban runs then it's a great option. the minute you have to bomb the highways it's the motors that are holding things back.
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Explain more? What's the issue with the motors? I am with Brian P and would argue the biggest issue is we (north americans) want to buy huge heavy vehicles to move one person around 99% of the time. Cd is common in marketing brochures but they all leave out frontal area as it is brutal and could increase highway range by 30% or more by dropping SUV bodies down to sedan height. Same interior space, better handling, slightly less weight, far better range, nobody in NA wants to buy it.
 
GreyGhost said:
Explain more? What's the issue with the motors? I am with Brian P and would argue the biggest issue is we (north americans) want to buy huge heavy vehicles to move one person around 99% of the time. Cd is common in marketing brochures but they all leave out frontal area as it is brutal and could increase highway range by 30% or more by dropping SUV bodies down to sedan height. Same interior space, better handling, slightly less weight, far better range, nobody in NA wants to buy it.
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well i was really speaking more about bikes.

But the point i was making was about efficiency being **** on the highways and half your range goes down the toilet.

hopefully there's some revised motor tech that i guess becomes more efficient? and we gain back range. be nice to take an electric bike for a full day ride one day.
 
Evoex said:
well i was really speaking more about bikes.

But the point i was making was about efficiency being **** on the highways and half your range goes down the toilet.

hopefully there's some revised motor tech that i guess becomes more efficient? and we gain back range. be nice to take an electric bike for a full day ride one day.
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Thats straight aero. Start and stop can capture much of the energy. Pushing air out of the way is energy lost from the vehicle. Motor/drive efficiency is pretty good but you are fighting physics with Cd, frontal area and speed (aero drag increases with speed squared).
 
maybe i'm in the minority but for the others here with BEVs, I don't care that much for more range. if it does 350-400 even with current charging rates (150-250kW), that's all I need.
I've done straight 4hours drives before for work, cannot do it anymore. Kids need to stop every 2-3 hours anyways. 15-20mins is barely enough time to stretch, take a leak and grab a coffee or takeout.

IMO everyone that wants 600+ per charge has not owned or lived with a full EV yet.
edit: only exception is for when you need to tow and your range gets cut in half.
 
+1 on that. 400 km range give or take is the sweet spot. If that's not enough to get where you need to go (95+% of the time, it is more than enough) there's going to be a need to stop somewhere towards the end of that distance anyhow, and then the only minor planning needed is to make that coincide with a charging stop. Even the Bolt's slow-ish fast charging is enough to get another couple hundred km after a lunch / coffee / bathroom break, and it's really uncommon to go more than 600 km in one day. (Windsor trip needs two charging stops, but even that's not a big deal - one quickie coffee-break stop, one meal stop)

On today's trip to Waterloo and back via Trafalgar and 124 and back roads, I saw 5 Ford Lightnings. And two Bolts maybe 30 seconds apart.
 
Discontent is rising amongst Toyota investors with their craptastic plans for post-ice vehicles. Toyota is apparently actively lobbying around the world to slow transition to EV so their existing (and future) products continue to be viable. Some major shareholders want transparency on this front and Toyota is fighting to keep the curtains closed. They do not want light on that issue.

thedriven.io

Time to go electric: Toyota faces shareholder revolt and calls for board shakeup

Shareholders demand Toyota accelerates its switch to electric and discloses its lobbying efforts – and how it is tracking on climate.
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Just had a longish Uber in Ioniq....very impressive.

2024 Hyundai IONIQ 5: Electric SUV | Hyundai Canada

Discover the 2024 IONIQ 5 electric SUV, with new features such as available All-Wheel Drive, standard super-fast charging and an available augmented reality head-up display.
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Huge range - 500-600k ...very comfortable. Said he loses 10% with ac on.
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