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Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?
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For $20k, a short range commuter may make sense for aome people. For $40k, I would pass.
I never understand people's need for range for every EV. Some Evs need to be long range but if you can make them cheap enough 100k is fine. Most households have 2 cars. How often do you need to drive 100k in a day with two vehicles? Some people do but a lot don't. Even if that satisfies 30% of the market for 2nd cars...that is still a lot of sales. Sell me a 25k hatchback that goes 150k and it'll probably work for me.
I agree at ~20K but the mini is ~40k for ~150km range in the winter and ~180 in the summer. That is a lot of coin for a vehicle that has limited utility. Look at all the other vehicles you can get for 40K and for most people it is hard to come up with a good reason to justify the mini other than want.
I wouldn't buy anything that mini makes without bumper to bumper warranty forever. Super fun cars that you should lease only.
You assume one has access to nightly charging. If I can’t charge at home that means the vehicle has to likely spend 8 hours away from home charging overnight if there’s no option at work. Not looking forward to doing that every other day.
Yes I’m reacting to more my personal circumstance then the average joe, but it’s my life. Their situation doesn’t help me.
That's an important point. Low range vehicles really cant skip a charge day without increasing potential for issues tomorrow. If you got something like a Tesla, you could probably get away with a supercharger hit every week or so while you grab a coffee.
A car like a Tesla you can charge on the weekends, and if your commute is short enough just go without charging the rest of the week.
I'm fortunate that I can charge at work, and at home each day...not everyone has that option.
While I like the Mini...not sure how much I'd trust that brand with an EV package in an originally designed ICE car. Buddy said simply 'I already have a responsible family car...but I want that for me.'
Can't argue with that.
I agree....that is why we need different vehicles for different solutions. Plug ins for people who have access to charging all the time....and long and short range EVs for different needs. I have guests coming in with 6000kms on their first tank of gas on their plug in hybrids. While others put on 1500 before they refuel. Some people need a tesla. Most do not. if we're talking a second car even 60 kms of ev driving would be amazing.
Agreed 100%. A car like a Mini would actually work for my commute...but I WANT the 300km range in the cold lol. Mind you I'm going to get one of those adapters from the laundry 220V to a 20A 110V plug. This way I can get L2 charging at the cottage...but with a 60A panel there...I may have to make sure nothing else is running.
EDIT: just confirmed…2100km on my current tank of gas (with 50% remaining).
I want a full EV…but I don’t need a full EV.
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@mimico_polak i took another look at the Fisker/Karma Revero - 2018+
Actually a hybrid with an EV range of 150 if I recall. There’s a 2.0t engine which interestingly enough never actually powers the wheels. It acts as a generator to keep the battery topped up/charged.
Actually found it quite an interesting setup. May take a closer look when I get a fat wallet.
Actually a hybrid with an EV range of 150 if I recall. There’s a 2.0t engine which interestingly enough never actually powers the wheels. It acts as a generator to keep the battery topped up/charged.
Actually found it quite an interesting setup. May take a closer look when I get a fat wallet.
@mimico_polak I just realized I forgot the neat part. So because the battery is so small but it has fast charging, you can charge to full in 20 mins.
Specs look good. Not sold on the winglets, but other than that it looks great.
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Exactly. Our Ioniq was 200km which fit 99% of the driving we did but didn't cost twice what we paid for the Ioniq for a huge battery we really didn't *need*.
But if I had a dollar for everytime someone asked what the range was on my Volt and they exclaimed "only 50KM?!", I'd be able to take the whole family out for dinner. But again, when you ask them how often they actually drive over 50km in a day, most realize how actually realistic that is all of a sudden.
There's a new set of public level 2 chargers that just went live within walking distance of our house and are completely free. If I had something with a huge battery and I exhausted it every day for work or something, I'd seriously take advantage of this to not even pay for charging at all.
In another unsurprising development, Tesla "full self-driving" can't deal with streetcars so it is disabled in Toronto. At least they fenced it off instead of mowing down pedestrians. I still think they deserve to be sued and lose huge for constantly pretending that their system capabilities far exceed what they can actually do.
driving.ca
Tesla FSD doesn't work in Toronto, Musk blames streetcars
“Toronto streetcars are not yet handled well by FSD,” the CEO explained when asked why the downtown was geofenced off
driving.ca
Oh, that's coming. I can't believe it hasn't happened yet, but I guess the wrong person hasn't died yet.
What on earth is so special about a streetcar that FSD can't handle? Large object. Don't hit it. Try not to drive on the tracks. Don't drive past it on the same side as the doors when the doors are opened and passengers may be entering or exiting. If that latter situation is a point of confusion, what about buses? If it can't handle a streetcar, what else can't it handle?
(probably a lot ...)
(probably a lot ...)
Tesla's on Autopilot are apparently not very good at detecting giant stationary objects.
Autopilot was active when a Tesla crashed into a truck, killing driver
NTSB report says driver engaged Autopilot 10 seconds before the deadly crash.
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If you can't find the problem on your end, you blame the problem on another thing...In another unsurprising development, Tesla "full self-driving" can't deal with streetcars so it is disabled in Toronto. At least they fenced it off instead of mowing down pedestrians. I still think they deserve to be sued and lose huge for constantly pretending that their system capabilities far exceed what they can actually do.
Tesla FSD doesn't work in Toronto, Musk blames streetcars
“Toronto streetcars are not yet handled well by FSD,” the CEO explained when asked why the downtown was geofenced off
I'm surprised they elected to blame large metallic objects that ride on fixed paths at slow speeds in a grid like pattern...
EDIT: Large objects that run on electricity!
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