Anonymous solves rape case that took Nova Soctia and RCMP a year to say "We can't"

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Rest in peace Rehtaeh Parsons.

Her mother posted this on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Angel-Rehtaeh/352644484835299


... all changed one dreaded night in November 2011. She went with a friend to another’s home. In that home she was raped by four young boys…one of those boys took a photo of her being raped and decided it would be fun to distribute the photo to everyone in Rehtaeh’s school and community where it quickly went viral. Because the boys already had a “slut” story, the victim of the rape Rehtaeh was considered a SLUT. This day changed the lives of our family forever. I stopped working that very day and we have all been on this journey of emotional turmoil ever since.


Rehtaeh was suddenly shunned by almost everyone she knew, the harassment was so bad she had to move out of her own community to try to start anew in Halifax. She struggled emotionally with depression and anger .Her thoughts of suicide began and fearing for her life, she placed herself in a hospital in an attempt to get help. She stayed there for almost 6 weeks. The bullying continued, her friends were not supportive. She needed a friend and eventually along the way a few new friends came along and a few old friends came forward.


Rae then moved back to Dartmouth, always with the concern of what will be said about her, said to her. Again, she was the one raped…she was the victim being victimized over and over again. One year later the police conclude their investigation to state that it comes down to “he said, she said” they believed the boys raped her but the proof in a court of law was difficult to gather. The photo sent…”well Leah, that’s a community issue!” The bullying never stopped but she learned to keep her head high and surrounded herself with the ones who truly cared. I will have eternal gratitude for her friends Jenna, Dawid and Mike for the past few months. They are the ones she leaned on for strength and courage.


Just two weeks ago she stopped smoking pot, started looking for work and with the help of one of her teachers and a new therapist she was making progress. When the calming effects of the pot subsided, her feelings of anger began to re-surface and she was struggling. I will say that she has told me many times that “Mom, although I often feel like killing myself…I could never do that to you because you would be devastated.”


This past week she was having lots of mood swings and her boyfriend Mike and Jenna wore the brunt of it but Thursday April 4th she had a great day, made plans for the weekend etc. Later that evening she had an outburst, acted on that impulse and locked herself in the bathroom. And to stop any rumours from spreading…. She acted on an impulse but I truly in my heart of heart do not feel she meant to kill herself. By the time I broke into the bathroom it was too late. My beautiful girl had hung herself and was rushed to the hospital where she remained on life support until last night.


This page is to celebrate the Rehtaeh we knew and loved. One of Rae’s pet peeves was that when someone passed away, suddenly they were liked and people cared. She wouldn’t want people who bullied her, talked about her, put negative statuses about her over the past year, and sent awful messages to be on this page. I know who you are because everyone message was a pain we shared together, there was not much that she didn’t tell me or show me.


People were so very cruel to her so if you were one that felt it ok to bully someone in so much pain –STAY AWAY. Rehtaeh is gone today because of The four boys that thought that raping a 15yr old girl was OK and to distribute a photo to ruin her spirit and reputation would be fun. Secondly, All the bullying and messaging and harassment that never let up are also to blame.


Lastly, the justice system failed her. Those are the people that took the life of my beautiful girl. Rehtaeh stood up for others, showed compassion to animals and people. She was an amazing artist .She made my life complete. When Rehtaeh was born I dedicated everything to her and promised her the world. Others in this world took that away from her.

NOTE: please respect the family's wishes and DO NOT publish the names of the 4 rapists on this page
 
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Lucky2 and Oilycreeck fighting, this is priceless ... to me
 
Re: Anonymous solves rape case that took Nova Soctia and RCMP a year to say "We can't

I thought I read it was in the last few months, but I could be wrong. If that's the case, then the timing of the suicide didn't make sense. Why 1 1/2 yrs later does she do it.

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It's obvious you have no idea what the word evidence means. I suggest you pick up a dictionary and read it. When the rape happened; which was November 2011, no one would speak up, not even her friends, so there was not enough evidence for the police to lay charges, and that wasn't their choice, they were told that by the crown. Now that someone has finally come forward they can investigate again. My guess would be, one of the guys involved couldn't take the guilt feeling from her suicide and came forward, but that is just a guess.

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why do need to start every post, or most of them with an insult towards other people. not that it really matters. but i find it odd.

nobody attacked you or said **** about you here
 
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why do need to start every post, or most of them with an insult towards other people. not that it really matters. but i find it odd.

nobody attacked you or said **** about you here

“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”


― George Carlin
 
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"Lastly, the justice system failed her. Those are the people that took the life of my beautiful girl. Rehtaeh stood up for others, showed compassion to animals and people. She was an amazing artist .She made my life complete. When Rehtaeh was born I dedicated everything to her and promised her the world. Others in this world took that away from her."

Case Closed!
If a picture of the event taking place isn't good enough evidence, i don't know what is.
Total failure.
Now you "justice system" lovers can paddle back up the creek and hang your head in shame.
 
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To suggest that a picture is enough evidence is completely wrong. The picture may not have shown faces of the suspects or anything substantive. I doubt anybody here has seen the pictures so nobody can say how strong the evidence is. Sexual assaults, especially of a young white female are going to be a top priority for police and the Crown, however they need a strong case because those charges are not easy to just throw at somebody; potentially ruining the life of an innocent. Youth are the worst witnesses to have in a case. They get nervous and stories change. If it was so cut and dry the suspects would have been brought to justice.

How many people here have studied law or criminology? I can tell from the arguments that none of you have, aside from maybe a brief high school law introduction. That isn't to put anybody down, but people love to jump to conclusions when what you know is very little. The media is the worst source of information as they are all going to put their own spin on the story and very rarely are genuine facts revealed in the stories. To suggest the cops didn't care is ridiculous and just plain ignorant. Cops are people too believe it or not. Are there bad ones? yes no doubt, but I doubt very much that they didn't want to beat the crap out of the bastards that raped this girl. Even if those boys had been brought to justice, the damage to her had been done. Who is to say she wouldn't have ended her own life regardless. Laying charges isn't a cure all that ends the pain and psychological damage done in a horrific crime like this.

So you can sling the term cop lover or whatever you want at me, I'm not a cop, I am finishing up my third year of criminology, so all I do is study criminal behaviour and the justice system. Do I think our system is perfect? No, mistakes are made all the time, but it is the best one we have right now. It is run by humans and I have yet to meet a perfect human.
 
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To suggest that a picture is enough evidence is completely wrong.

Depends on the picture, and as you wrote, most people have not seen it... but in general I say yes, a single photo may be enough evidence to convict. If not to convict, at least it would be enough to start a criminal investigation.


The picture may not have shown faces of the suspects or anything substantive.
You are assuming now - but let's say that you are right and the photo doesn't show the face of the rapist. All what the cops have to do is interview the person who took the photo, as obviously he was there, and he can testify to what happened that night. Thru digital forensics, one single photo can prove a number of things, including identities of who was there, time, place. And examination of the device, especially if it is a cell, it can prove who else has the photo, etc. etc.

Youth are the worst witnesses to have in a case. They get nervous and stories change. If it was so cut and dry the suspects would have been brought to justice.
Come on, it is not like this would be the first time a minor testifies in court...


... Even if those boys had been brought to justice, the damage to her had been done. Who is to say she wouldn't have ended her own life regardless. Laying charges isn't a cure all that ends the pain and psychological damage done in a horrific crime like this.

It sounds like you are saying "Why bother? She was damaged already, anyway..." Maybe your criminology studies have not included the definition of the word "justice"?
 
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All what the cops have to do is interview the person who took the photo, as obviously he was there, and he can testify to what happened that night.

I'm sorry sir, but I have no recollection as to the events in question.


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There was a criminal investigation, so the photo was enough for that ball to get rolling. However, investigators and the crown determined that there was not enough to make a valid case.

I am assuming, you are correct. However, the assumption is based on the fact that if the photo showed exactly who committed the rape, charges would have been laid. You can't be that naive to believe the investigators would just overlook such incriminating evidence. And forensics are not the be all and end all of investigations. This isn't television, it isn't that easy to get all that information from cell phones. Especially if those involved aren't co-operating, then you have the task of getting warrants, easier said than done.

No, it wouldn't be the first time that a youth testifies, however, more often then not, the testimony of a youth witness (or any witness for that matter) is not enough to convict unless accompanied with strong corroborative evidence. The youth present were at a party where they were drinking underage. Most of them are going to change their stories as to not incriminate themselves. Also teenagers love to talk and hear stories. They will have heard many different accounts of what happened and the stories change.

And no, I'm not saying "why bother?". I think you would be surprised as to what justice really is. Rarely is justice for the victim, or the victims family. They are young offenders, meaning depending on their record they would likely face very little custodial time. They would never have their identities revealed either. They would have to go through courses on sexual assault and would be reintroduced as (hopefully) functioning members of society in no time. Yes, they should be arrested for what they did, but the "justice" would do little to make the victims feel any better. She suffered a great injustice for which she clearly could not recover. Blaming the justice system for not being able to arrest these people though is not going to change the outcome.

Perhaps you could enlighten me with your definition of justice though, since clearly I don't know what I'm talking about.
 
Have you actually read anything about this? Because it certainly doesn't sound like you know much about her story.

Look, we (the public) don't know enough about this case to bash/defend the cops either way. The usual GTAM suspects will slam the cops because that's what they do, and others will righteously defend them at every turn because that's their schtick. Give it a bloody rest.

At least there's new evidence, the case is being looked at again, hopefully charges will follow and the perps will get what they deserve.

Actually I've read a few articles about it, so your assumption is asinine, but thanks for coming out, now back in the kitchen.

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why do need to start every post, or most of them with an insult towards other people. not that it really matters. but i find it odd.

nobody attacked you or said **** about you here

Really, so you didn't say **** about me, you have a short memory I guess, or is it selective memory?

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"Lastly, the justice system failed her. Those are the people that took the life of my beautiful girl. Rehtaeh stood up for others, showed compassion to animals and people. She was an amazing artist .She made my life complete. When Rehtaeh was born I dedicated everything to her and promised her the world. Others in this world took that away from her."

Case Closed!
If a picture of the event taking place isn't good enough evidence, i don't know what is.
Total failure.
Now you "justice system" lovers can paddle back up the creek and hang your head in shame.

If you and others really think the police didn't want to charge these idiots, then you live in a fantasy world.

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Actually I've read a few articles about it, so your assumption is asinine, but thanks for coming out, now back in the kitchen.

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Ooooh, sexist potshots, eh? Real class there.

The "assumption" was based on your own comments regarding the case.
 
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If you and others really think the police didn't want to charge these idiots, then you live in a fantasy world.

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