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America is no longer FREE
- Thread starter CruisnGrrl
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Ever since The Patriot Act, Habeus Corpus has essentially ceased to exist in the United States. The outrage has been ear drum splitting over it.
By comparison, there has barely been a whisper over similar legislation, that was passed years back in Canada. Most didn't even know that it existed.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/LOP/researchpublications/prb0583-e.htm
Thanks for waking up. It’s all about the crashing USD and the world currencies. The amount of debt in the world is un-payable. The is a controlled implosion of the ALL FIAT money. I hope you people have been stacking real gold and silver. The rest of the central banks of the world are doing it.
Get ready for the collapse, thus you see these plans for marshal law. I am not kidding.
Get ready for the collapse, thus you see these plans for marshal law. I am not kidding.
Stay in school kids.
imkruzen
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The Pentagon Is Offering Free Military Hardware To Every Police Department In The US
Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com...ilitary-equipment-police-forces#ixzz1g0IBKYON
Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com...ilitary-equipment-police-forces#ixzz1g0IBKYON
I've been saying for a long time that this has been coming. it is easier for those in power to erode our freedoms.
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Nyx13
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On it's own it may be considered an isolated issue and perhaps most people even think it's nothing to be concerned about, however, combined with some other happenings in the US...I think there's a LOT to be concerned about. The thing is...how many people are even AWARE of these other happens?
Start in with this bill: http://rt.com/usa/news/senate-mccain-battlefield-graham-429/
and this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/philip-giraldi/the-violent-radicalizatio_b_74091.html
The actual 'Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act': http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-1955
Add things like this: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/12/06/in-tracking-companies-reveal-their-low-iq/
And then toss in a little religion to stir everyone up: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/09/fbi-muslims-radical/
How will you protect your rights? Who will stand up and protect you? The police? Who's protecting you from them??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnBRA3eYnAw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DMgyvvBqcw&feature=relmfu
The militarization of the US police (a lot of this equipment was seen at Occupy protests): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNWZZaPripQ&feature=related
Scary times if you ask me.
Start in with this bill: http://rt.com/usa/news/senate-mccain-battlefield-graham-429/
and this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/philip-giraldi/the-violent-radicalizatio_b_74091.html
The actual 'Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act': http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-1955
Add things like this: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/12/06/in-tracking-companies-reveal-their-low-iq/
And then toss in a little religion to stir everyone up: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/09/fbi-muslims-radical/
How will you protect your rights? Who will stand up and protect you? The police? Who's protecting you from them??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnBRA3eYnAw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DMgyvvBqcw&feature=relmfu
The militarization of the US police (a lot of this equipment was seen at Occupy protests): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNWZZaPripQ&feature=related
Scary times if you ask me.
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Don't know about Mike but I sure as **** did. And for travel opportunities. Your freedom is an illusion. You never had any freedom cryngrrl.
And that as well.
You seem to paint us all with the same brush.... do you really think I was thinking that (protecting your freedom) when I was killing people that don't even know where Canada is let alone how to threaten it?
I knew what I was doing. I was ensuring the rich maintained their riches.
"a person who takes part in an armed conflict based on the promise of material compensation" = D23
Honestly though... If the people I worked for wanted us to start putting bullets in Canadians I'm pretty sure a lot of us would turn on them. Even though they are the hand that feeds.
You never forget right and wrong if you have a moral center to begin with.
Don't assume we are all mindless servants.
It's quite insulting when you generalize.
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Credibility shot to hell, at 0:45.
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Nyx13
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Not so sure. Look at Guantanamo. Yes, you can argue it was a legitimate response given the situation...however, now with Habeus Corpus being revoked (indefinitely) and the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act and the most recent changes to The National Defense Authorization Act...is it really such a stretch?
So many people have no common sense these days...you have 7 year olds being pepper sprayed, cops beating down 12 years olds....all claiming those children were somehow THREATS. Now with the new guidelines, even someone with seven days worth of food in their home is technically considered a terrorism suspect. If you are a follower of James Wesley Rawles and his advice, you probably look like a top suspect to your family and neighbors! So how long before people like that are hauled in? Simply for believing that this very sort of stupidity will happen and they want to be prepared? The way the media feeds their paranoia about terrorism.... People are so completely off their nut it seems some days, I can see this becoming a mess really quickly.
It's getting bizzare and frankly, a little scary in my opinion because while it's not at that stage now...history has shown things can slide downhill pretty damn quickly.
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OpenGambit
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In general the americans are much more active in defending their own rights than we are. So its not much of a surprise.
OpenGambit
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I disagree with the idea of a "ruling elite". I also disagree with the idea that we used to have "many freedoms" that we have been losing over the "last couple of decades". I don't see this as an "example".
I will however, agree that our current administratino likes to emulate the US.
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Nyx13
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I think it's also been kept fairly quiet. I only became aware of it because of the industry I work in...I have to deal with FINTRAC.
Rob, as for the response to HC being revoked....I'm not sure I agree with you there, personally I'm not really seeing a huge response. I use a lot of social media and gather from alternative news sources. Very few have covered this and almost none of the mainstream news sources have covered it. Some have but they did over a week AFTER it was passed and I don't see anyone jumping up and down demanding Obama veto it.
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OpenGambit
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I do remember the Canadian legislation coming into force. Pretty much nothing that can be done until someone gets the brunt of it and we get a Charter Challenge.
But with regards with the current US one. Maybe I am remembering incorrectly but I thought Obama said he was going to veto this?
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hey as long as you're honest about it and don't make out that you're some sort of hero because you joined for the paycheque and to blow **** up.
I've noticed many aren't as honest with themselves about their motives for joining as you have been. When the many become most it becomes a stereo type.
It wouldn't start with all Canadians, it would start with one particular group being villainized and rounded up. They wouldn't be shot on the street, they would be quietly disposed of by a trusted few... sound familiar?
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Nyx13
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Well that's just it. As I understand it he's said he'll veto it...but this actually happened 9 or 10 days ago and there hasn't been a peep since. It's not the first time he's made public promises only to break them....so I'm not holding my breath.
OpenGambit
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I am very disappointed with the Obama administration thus far. He didn't take advantage of the time when he had the most political capital, democractic house and senate. And now he has to deal with crap like "reaffirming the motto".
Its not all his fault or anything but he just hasn't been able to impose his will on anyone, its very sad.
I hope he does veto it tho.
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