Always knew it - Toronto police cash cow

[Kri$han]

Europe is more congested and I've driven on several highways there. 120,130,140 are common posted speed limits. Highways were generally in no way better than ours, definitely narrower at times.

Canadian drivers are brutal sometimes - I take QEW, heading east towards downtown to work. Why do people slow down around Mississauga Rd. exit? The turn that is there is maybe 3 degrees yet people act as if it was a 90 degree angle or something. Nobody signals lane changes, nobody checks blind spots, drivers are preoccupied with texting or fixing their makeup. Slow pokes hog up the passing lane.

Speeding is the last thing I worry about.

Agreed.

My theory is that driving here is TOO EASY: Wide lanes, excess traffic signals, "no fault" insurance policies, and (to a lesser degree) very informal driving schools, taught by people who didn't even learn to drive in this country (i.e. they know how to operate a car, but know nothing of our etiquette, which changes by country, province and even region).

Driving is so damn boring and easy here that people pay a lot less attention than they should.

LOLOLOLOL @ the dude above saying 90 is already too fast to be going on the DVP, and that it's the "worst designed highway in North America"... pretty beefy claim there, brosev. Do you design roadways for a living?

 

[油井緋色]

Agreed.

My theory is that driving here is TOO EASY: Wide lanes, excess traffic signals, "no fault" insurance policies, and (to a lesser degree) very informal driving schools, taught by people who didn't even learn to drive in this country (i.e. they know how to operate a car, but know nothing of our etiquette, which changes by country, province and even region).

Driving is so damn boring and easy here that people pay a lot less attention than they should.

LOLOLOLOL @ the dude above saying 90 is already too fast to be going on the DVP, and that it's the "worst designed highway in North America"... pretty beefy claim there, brosev. Do you design roadways for a living?

I've heard it before but never looked it up to see if the claim is true. But then again, just because it's said a lot doesn't mean it's true...just like the "if we had limitless highways everyone would be doing 300" stupidity.

By the way, a lot of traffic schools got dinged last year for not doing their job. I think the issue isn't MTO, it's primarily the driving schools. The driving schools save MTO money (ie. save our taxes) but end up throwing a bunch of retards across the road.

 

[mmmnaked]

LOLOLOLOL @ the dude above saying 90 is already too fast to be going on the DVP, and that it's the "worst designed highway in North America"... pretty beefy claim there, brosev. Do you design roadways for a living?

no, he just posts on the internet about it

 

[Jayv]

Considering the DVP is patrolled by the Toronto police force they do a pretty decent job of being visible, but also not using it as their own personal piggy bank for baiting marginal speeders.

I highly doubt any highway is any more congested than the DVP, the parkway is at crawling speeds pretty much for most of the day.

 

[mmmnaked]

Im sure if they could safely and efficiently do it, they'd run traps on the DVP all the time. But considering the flow of traffic and the design of the roadway, it just doesn't make sense to pull people over unless they absolutely have to.

 

[rorider]

You admit to breaking the law, the cops are doing their job and you're calling them idiots? Does it really matter if they raise the limit to 120, people will then drive 135 to 140, get ticket and complain. If you don't want a ticket, obey the laws. Funny how simple that is.

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Yes, I'm a criminal! I'm breaking the law everyday by going 10-15 km over the speed limit and I get punished for it. Speeding tickets, insurance premiums going up, etc. What can I say, I'm public enemy no. 1 here.

Buddy I've been around for a while. In this province I know people that have been breaking the law in very serious ways and they get a slap on the wrist, IF they get caught. Most of the time they don't. Me, the law abiding citizen, using his <b>common sense</b> and trying have a decent life in this "amazing" metropolis we call Toronto, I get slapped with all kinds of stupid charges just so that the police and the city make their quotas. And guess what, when you really need the police to solve real crimes, they're never there and they rarely solve anything. (I needed their help in a couple of occasions and I was told they're not a private security service to show up whenever I need them!!!!???, but they do show up when I throw a party on a Saturday @ 1 AM to tell me to keep it down.)

I've never been speeding in my life, I mean real speeding(30-40,50 km over) and yet I have 2 speeding tickets on my record in the past 3 years for going 13 and 17 over which of course raised my insurance premiums(for which I've been and will be paying for years) on my car and bike. Total speeding tickets in my life, probably 5.

So, yes, I do think the city and the police are a bunch of idiots!

 

[Shaman]

And guess what, when you really need the police to solve real crimes, they're never there and they rarely solve anything. (I needed their help in a couple of occasions and I was told they're not a private security service to show up whenever I need them!!!!???, but they do show up when I throw a party on a Saturday @ 1 AM to tell me to keep it down.)

This, right here, is the real face of the cops that all their brain-dead supporters are in denial about. I still can't figure out why. Stockholm syndrome, maybe.

 

[油井緋色]

This, right here, is the real face of the cops that all their brain-dead supporters are in denial about. I still can't figure out why. Stockholm syndrome, maybe.

Gf's bike got backed into. Police came to take statement and left, told her they will take care of it. I told her ******** and to continue pestering the plaza owner to provide security footage. Footage was retrieved. Took her 3 days to contact the cop only to find he was on vacation.

The cops aren't doing their job anyway and the ticket revenue is used to keep their own guys paid apparently. Why not just fire a bunch of cop, stop with the ticket ********, and we'd all be happy. They clearly aren't protecting and serving -_-

 

[oilycreek]

This, right here, is the real face of the cops that all their brain-dead supporters are in denial about. I still can't figure out why. Stockholm syndrome, maybe.

I've never had a problem with police doing their job. I didn't realize we had to be brain dead to support our police. I don't see anyone forcing people to live here, you guys are free to leave any time. I will help people pack and move.

Gf's bike got backed into. Police came to take statement and left, told her they will take care of it. I told her ******** and to continue pestering the plaza owner to provide security footage. Footage was retrieved. Took her 3 days to contact the cop only to find he was on vacation.

The cops aren't doing their job anyway and the ticket revenue is used to keep their own guys paid apparently. Why not just fire a bunch of cop, stop with the ticket ********, and we'd all be happy. They clearly aren't protecting and serving -_-

you say you haven't really sped then say well 30,40, 50 over lmfao. If you drive 1 km over you're speeding. Breaking the law is breaking the law. I can't believe it's that hard to understand. If you don't want speeding tickets DON'T SPEED.



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[Shaman]

How do boots taste, exactly?

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[rorider]

I've never had a problem with police doing their job. I didn't realize we had to be brain dead to support our police. I don't see anyone forcing people to live here, you guys are free to leave any time. I will help people pack and move.

you say you haven't really sped then say well 30,40, 50 over lmfao. If you drive 1 km over you're speeding. Breaking the law is breaking the law. I can't believe it's that hard to understand. If you don't want speeding tickets DON'T SPEED.

Sadly because people like you this province is so f***ed!

 

[LannyNguyen]

Oh great, are we going to have another petition?

 

[BuckWild]

The GTA is too splintered and diverse to get anything done hence these things will not change.

 

[daught]

I've never had a problem with police doing their job. I didn't realize we had to be brain dead to support our police. I don't see anyone forcing people to live here, you guys are free to leave any time. I will help people pack and move.

How about no, I won pack up and leave if I don't like something. That's the worst attitude. People should make a stand for what's right.

I know cases of people calling the police with the location of stolen goods and they ditn't do anything about it. I know plenty of cases of illegal searches and police abuse. Go ahead continue supporting anything and everything they do. Maybe you and your goons should leave... Il help you pack.

 

[oilycreek]

Sadly because people like you this province is so f***ed!

Lmao, that's it, it's my fault you don't like to obey the laws, unbelievable.

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[oilycreek]

How about no, I won pack up and leave if I don't like something. That's the worst attitude. People should make a stand for what's right.

I know cases of people calling the police with the location of stolen goods and they ditn't do anything about it. I know plenty of cases of illegal searches and police abuse. Go ahead continue supporting anything and everything they do. Maybe you and your goons should leave... Il help you pack.

You don't like the laws, you know you will never change them, so your best option is move some where you'll be happy, but some how I doubt that place exist any where. You guys always blame the police for doing their job. I guess you guys don't do your jobs properly. It's like shooting the messenger, they are paid to do a job, so they do it, just like everyone else they have a boss that tells them what to do. I couldn't imagine not giving 100% at my job every day.

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[Shaman]

You don't like the laws, you know you will never change them, so your best option is move some where you'll be happy

Wrong. Laws can be changed. But more importantly, laws are artificial constructs that are forced upon us by people who claim exclusive use of violence, confinement and deadly force. Much of this "work" is done without the consent of many of the public (and in some cases, virtually none of the public). You apparently see those people as "good."

You guys always blame the police for doing their job.

Yeah, but that's the thing... they DON'T. And they don't follow the laws, either.

they are paid to do a job, so they do it, just like everyone else they have a boss that tells them what to do

This is what they call a straw man argument... throw something true in to distract from the lie. Sure they get paid to do a job and they have bosses - but none of the other things they do, especially when they break the law - WHETHER IN THE COURSE OF DUTY OR NOT - justifies your statement, and the idea that they do their jobs is also not entirely true. Again, laws are artificial constructs that are forced on the population with the use of violence. Some laws make sense and there is a clear harm to defend the public from - others are just ways for the forces to make money that "justifies" their salaries. You apparently are a black and white thinker, so there's something to chew on.

 

[BuckWild]

You don't like the laws, you know you will never change them, so your best option is move some where you'll be happy, but some how I doubt that place exist any where. You guys always blame the police for doing their job. I guess you guys don't do your jobs properly. It's like shooting the messenger, they are paid to do a job, so they do it, just like everyone else they have a boss that tells them what to do. I couldn't imagine not giving 100% at my job every day.

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I believe the underlying issue is when the people in charge of upholding the law with a badge and a gun in turn breaks said law for which they of all should know better then gets off with no penalty. If nothing else they should get double the penalty or punishment.
Site, Michael Bryant killing the cyclists and not even as much as a ticket for driving his car on a sidewalk.

Anyone remember former Chief Bill McCormicks son who was a Police Officer running his own protection and extortion racket.

It's the hypocrisy that people can't stomach.

 

[omnivore]

studies have proven time and again, people will not just arbitrarily drive faster and faster if the limits continue to rise. People generally drive as fast as they safely feel they can comfortably drive on that particular road. The studies show that when the speed limits are increased, the average speed of cars doesn't increase by very much, often none at all.

Your thinking that everyone just drives 20 over the limit, regardless of what that limit is, is mistaken.

 

[oilycreek]

I believe the underlying issue is when the people in charge of upholding the law with a badge and a gun in turn breaks said law for which they of all should know better then gets off with no penalty. If nothing else they should get double the penalty or punishment.
Site, Michael Bryant killing the cyclists and not even as much as a ticket for driving his car on a sidewalk.

Anyone remember former Chief Bill McCormicks son who was a Police Officer running his own protection and extortion racket.

It's the hypocrisy that people can't stomach.

I couldn't agree more. If they break the law, they should pay a penalty, but the same penalty everyone pays, not double. I never once claimed all cops are good last abiding people, but like every profession there are bad Apple's, and your can't group all cops on with the bad ones, there are more good books then bad cops. I've had to deal with both types, but I don't blame the good ones because of the bad ones.

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