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Afghanistan has fallen
- Thread starter Roadghost
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J_F
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was also a strategically useful place to have 2 huge air bases: Kandahar and Bagram
Pakistan to the south, Iran to the west and not far from Russia and China
puppet government in office that let the US and NATO do whatever they pleased in those places
I expected the US to keep a minimum troop level in Afghanistan to keep those bases viable
Roadghost
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The Taliban are now the government but...that doesn't mean the war is over. Latest report from Reuters has the deposed vice president saying that he is now the caretaker President of Afghanistan and the Mujahedin will never accept a Taliban government. Apparently gathering an armed resistance movement to the Taliban government.
This is Afghanistan we're talking about. The war is never over. Ever.
This is Afghanistan we're talking about. The war is never over. Ever.
Yes and YesFrom some of the interviews I've seen with Taliban spokesmen, thy seem to have become more moderate. They're saying that the girls can still stay in school and get an education. Even saying that the embassies can stay open. Is it all a sham? Who knows.
Anyone else think that Biden was bang on yesterday with his speech?
Biden defends Afghanistan policy amid mounting criticism of withdrawal
"I stand squarely behind my decision," the president said on Monday. "After 20 years, I've learned the hard way that there was never a good time to withdraw U.S. forces."www.nbcnews.com
Remember when someone asked "how did our oil get under their sand?"
Mad Mike
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I think the US did the right thing.
Afghans are either in or out -- they should be the ones taking up the lead, the rest of the world supporting them. If they can't figure out how to organize a government, defend their sovereignty, organize a military, and root out political corruption after 20 years of international defense, funding and training assistance, it seems to me they lack they determination to ever make it happen.
Afganistan has a population of 40million, approx 200,000 in the Afghan army, - vs Taliban 75,000.
There's only so long you can say 'one more day' before you're out of runway.
the US sent 110,000 soldiers at the peak, the Russians sent 30,000 at their peak…not counting any other countries from the coalition either. They couldn’t get it done with a well paid, well trained military.
Perpetual war is good for business....same as the war on drugs...it never ends. You can't win it, and even if you could...why would you? The money is flowing, and human beings are no more than the cost of doing business unfortunately.
J_F
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the NATO occupation of the last 20 years did stop the war
the civil war, as we chose the winner
it's back on as the referee has left
it's a mountainous country
would take a lot of ordinance to flatten it
and the comparison to Viet Nam is a good one
when given the choice between domestic tyranny
and foreign occupation
people will generally choose the former
the civil war, as we chose the winner
it's back on as the referee has left
it's a mountainous country
would take a lot of ordinance to flatten it
and the comparison to Viet Nam is a good one
when given the choice between domestic tyranny
and foreign occupation
people will generally choose the former
I see you’re a fan of collateral damage. That’s not good PR usually though.
Not at all, But I’m a realist that don’t live under a rock and think the world is full of butterflies and lollipops
Realism is understanding the Taliban live among the people of Afghanistan that aren’t Taliban. Indiscriminate bombing kills the very people you’re trying to “liberate”. Such is the nature of guerilla warfare.
That’s why it would never be liberated, You don’t know your enemy.
But yet it’s safe to spread them from one end of this country to the other never knowing what the end results will be.
Do you think the Afgan people that’s brought in is all here for the love of our country and mean to cause no harm?
But yet it’s safe to spread them from one end of this country to the other never knowing what the end results will be.
Do you think the Afgan people that’s brought in is all here for the love of our country and mean to cause no harm?
How do we know you’re not part of a sleeper cell of ultra radical newfies waiting to be activated to make everyone eat seal?
I would expect that reaction when you’re painted into a corner and show your ignorance
Mad Mike
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The US did get it done. Taliban gone, tribal warlords gone, massive improvement of civil rights and liberties, democratic, albeit corrupt, govt installed. 200000 man army organized, trained, armed and paid.
When it came time to leave, the locals rolled over without a fight.
Sorry, I thought we were doing the theatre of the absurd.
…to the Taliban….who had been defeated?
Same old ignorant ass that thinks he is smarter than the rest
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