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507 Clamp down petition?
- Thread starter Baggsy
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Not surprising. Didn't they lower limits on River Rd because of excessive speeding and make it a 'Community Safety Zone'?
Those zones are going to come up more and more as it's the gateway to putting in photo radar. Not that it would catch a motorcycle zipping by at a good clip, especially once you know where the radar is.
Get to 507, cover plate, have fun, finish 507, uncover plate.
You risk the OPP catching you with a hidden plate, but all it takes is a single run at normal speed to make sure it's clear sailing on the way back.
Those zones are going to come up more and more as it's the gateway to putting in photo radar. Not that it would catch a motorcycle zipping by at a good clip, especially once you know where the radar is.
Get to 507, cover plate, have fun, finish 507, uncover plate.
You risk the OPP catching you with a hidden plate, but all it takes is a single run at normal speed to make sure it's clear sailing on the way back.
Not much you can do honestly. If people are going to race that area they already dont have any care for the local law enforcement. And if the police want to give chase they are probably going to run just putting more in danger.
Wonder how many accidents are related to the bumps and frost heaves in mid corner. My guess is that this road sucks people in to riding above their limits - especially riders in groups when riders might feel pressured to ride faster than they would when alone. Then something unexpected happens and they don't have the ability to recover.
I have never ridden 507 close to the limit of a bike. Way too many lane incursions from vehicles (cages and bikes) blowing the corners in the opposite direction. I've had an oncoming cruiser panic and stand it up and he went past on my right. Ive thrown out the anchor in a car when half way through a corner there was a trailer across the road and truck in the ditch. Just a general mess with not many escape routes.
Personally, I haven't ridden the 507 that often. It is a nice stretch of road that is fun to run. Whenever I did, there were always a gaggle of bikers riding the road and clearly trying to punch above their weight. To @shanekingsley point, always people with less experience trying to keep up. I know I have been that guy. I don't enjoy being that guy and don't really want to be near that guy when they make a mistake.
I have also encountered residents shaking their fist at riders as they go by so there is no doubt that the locals are ****** off.
I remember being on Hockley Valley road and watching an elderly woman sprinkling gravel on the road in front of her driveway which was on a mild apex. I stopped and asked her why she was doing it. Her reply was to get 'you guys' to slow down and maybe if one of us got hurt we would learn a lesson from it.
I have also encountered residents shaking their fist at riders as they go by so there is no doubt that the locals are ****** off.
I remember being on Hockley Valley road and watching an elderly woman sprinkling gravel on the road in front of her driveway which was on a mild apex. I stopped and asked her why she was doing it. Her reply was to get 'you guys' to slow down and maybe if one of us got hurt we would learn a lesson from it.
@GreyGhost, I am assuming the actions of the elderly woman angered you. At the time, it angered me too. We had a dialog and she was just fed up of all the noise and was concerned for children in the area. I remember her saying that she was terrified to be in the car backing out of the driveway because she couldn't see bikers coming and when they do they come so fast.
I don't and didn't condone her actions but I certainly appreciate her frustration. People in my neighbourhood seem to drive like they are trying to qualify for pole position.
I don't and didn't condone her actions but I certainly appreciate her frustration. People in my neighbourhood seem to drive like they are trying to qualify for pole position.
not the racing type, but the wrapped around a pole position.
Nobody should be backing out of their driveway. That is a provincial failure as it is legal on Hockley. There is just no good reason and lots and lots of bad reasons.
507 turns are mostly sweepers. You're gonna be at 180+ to drag knee (you can use speed to get over bumps and **** lol.) There's no run off <-- this is a far larger problem than the bumps (unless we talking some crater pothole lol)
Doing it a bit slower is still hta172, but a lot more control. Either way, I agree it's unsafe af lol
Not out of experience or anything. A friend told me. <.<
yup been there a handful of times. turns are long and gentle, really need to go at ridiculous speeds to get any thrill.
why people rave about it is beyond me, there are much more technical and better roads.
There is a greater possibility that some kid is going to be wrapped in a coffin.
It's a good warm up road to the better ones further north, or a nice way to wind the ride down if coming from the north.
Also helps that there is gas and butter tarts at the bottom of it.
Do we even have any evidence that the guys crashing are sport bikes doing excessive speeds? The article mentions a man in his 50s. I just googled "highway 507 motorcycle crash" and skimmed the articles from the first page of results, and all of them mention middle aged riders in their 40s, 50s, and 60s. Older riders usually ride cruisers, and they're not doing 150. I wouldn't be surprised if most of them were going under the speed limit when they crashed.
Most of the crashes are people exceeding their abilities. That may be a cruiser at 90 km/h more often than a sportbike rider at 130 km/h. If you are crashing at less than the speed limit on 507 and the crash is not due to another vehicle, you should not be riding a bike in on public roads.
Here is thread from last october on 507
Photo radar urged for County Road 507 in wake of latest fatality
Looks like local councillors are beating the drum on 507 speed issues. Poorly written article, below, outlines some of the issues. https://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/news/peterborough-region/2020/10/22/photo-radar-urged-for-county-road-507-in-wake-of-latest-fatality.html In the general...
www.gtamotorcycle.com
I have a cottage in the area and have been up and down the 507 150+ times over the last 15 years. Relative to most Ontario roads, and certainly those in the GTA, it's a nice ride with sweeping corners back and forth and you have to be doing way way over the speed limit to make it challenging.
The bike on the flatbed in the news clip is not a cruiser. Most news clip I've seen over the years re accidents have involved sport or superport types bikes, not cruisers. I'm sure there have been some cruiser accidents. Resident anger is not just about accidents, it's riders tearing past them at 150 kph in an 80 zone. 95% of the extreme speeders are on sport or superport type bikes based on my personal experience.
I avoid the road on weekends as far too many riders on sport or superport types bikes arrive from the GTA to tear up and down the road and too many of these people seem to be riding over their skill limit, wrong lines in corners and can't keep their bike in their lane and running wide. I've been passed by people easily doing twice the limit and riding very recklessly, lots of close calls passing slower vehicles.
The OPP should just set up a few HTA 172 seizure fests and haul away a couple of dozen bike a few weekends in a row once or twice a season.
Residents in the area should be careful about what they are asking for. In my experience 95% of all vehicles do not obey the 80 kph speed limit and average speed is about 90 - 95 kph. Anyone doing 80 usually has a long line of people backed up behind them. So lowering the limit to 60 kph is going to be very painful for just about all regular 507 users and they'll have to live with this day-to-day for the next 10 years....... The extreme speeders will just go somewhere else.
If they are concerned about the people going 150, the number on the sign dropping from 80 to 60 will do absolutely nothing. The only people that have to live with that are the law-abiding.
In general, we would all be better off with some courtesy. They complain that bikes blow past them on the straights but leave out that when the road straightened out, they floored it to try to keep the bikes behind them and enforce the speed limit (while conveniently ignoring their own speed as they believe it was justified). If I have someone behind me that wants to go faster than me and it is safe to pass, I slow down a bit and wave them around. No crazy speeds required. Safer and more enjoyable for everyone.
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