Enough of COVID...what are you doing to the house?

Throwing NaCl on your roof is going to get expensive fast as you corrode everything. KCl is best and even CaCl is a better choice than nacl. People just hear salt and grab what they can.
I picked up a few bags of Calcium Chloride the other day. It's easier on concrete as well. Landscape supply was $20 a bag. Rona was out of stock and theirs had been $30.

Make your own hand warmers. Throw a half cup of the stuff into a plastic bag and add water or snow when you need heat. It's exothermic and gets very hot very fast.
 
I picked up a few bags of Calcium Chloride the other day. It's easier on concrete as well. Landscape supply was $20 a bag. Rona was out of stock and theirs had been $30.

Make your own hand warmers. Throw a half cup of the stuff into a plastic bag and add water or snow when you need heat. It's exothermic and gets very hot very fast.
Learned that with my first pool while adding calcium to a bucket of the pool water (chlorinated). It was a race to get it stirred up with my hand and dumped in before it got too hot.
 
My attached garage is finished/insulated however not heated. Rarely gets below zero in there however the exposed 8-12" of foundation not attached to the house often gets frost on it radiating more cold into the space. Probably nothing I can do to prevent this though right?
 
My attached garage is finished/insulated however not heated. Rarely gets below zero in there however the exposed 8-12" of foundation not attached to the house often gets frost on it radiating more cold into the space. Probably nothing I can do to prevent this though right?
An electric cable can heat the perimeter. That is used more for situations where slab deterioration is a problem due to temperature fluctuations.

It means cutting a groove and bedding the cable. Got any pictures?
 
My attached garage is finished/insulated however not heated. Rarely gets below zero in there however the exposed 8-12" of foundation not attached to the house often gets frost on it radiating more cold into the space. Probably nothing I can do to prevent this though right?
2 inch foam glued on with construction adhesive would make a huge difference. You can glue drywall to the foam after if you wanted.

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You could also glue a cement siding panel cut into strips over the foam , decorative and may last longer than drywall . Ultimate is PVC panels , like razor or Azack , completely waterproof and hockey pucks bounce off .


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Speaking of insulating….

Is there any decent way to insulate the garage floor? It’s a huge source of cold in the garage, and I’m sure would make a decent difference if something was laid down on it to help the heat loss.

2 car garage…but no space for cars so I’m not too worried about driving over it.
 
Speaking of insulating….

Is there any decent way to insulate the garage floor? It’s a huge source of cold in the garage, and I’m sure would make a decent difference if something was laid down on it to help the heat loss.

2 car garage…but no space for cars so I’m not too worried about driving over it.
Technically you could do what we did in a buddies basement but I wouldn't. Basically we made our own dricore. Rolled out foundation drainage wrap (bumpy brown plastic with taped seams), put plywood on top and pinned it down. Not as insulated as dry core but only 1.5" thick. Slab can breathe and any water can get out between the bumps.

The best answer is break out slab, remove some fill, gravel, foam, heat cable or pipe, slab.
 
An electric cable can heat the perimeter. That is used more for situations where slab deterioration is a problem due to temperature fluctuations.

It means cutting a groove and bedding the cable. Got any pictures?
There’s less today as it’s milder out but Stihl plenty. The hardware on the man-door often has frost on it as well although I don’t feel any excessive air flow near the housings. Door itself has seals in good shape all around. Weirdly no frost on the side of the garage housing the bay doors just mostly the entire back wall.
 

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Speaking of insulating….

Is there any decent way to insulate the garage floor? It’s a huge source of cold in the garage, and I’m sure would make a decent difference if something was laid down on it to help the heat loss.

2 car garage…but no space for cars so I’m not too worried about driving over it.
Are you more concerned that it is making the overall space colder or that it is making your feet cold?

If it is feet, a good solution is rubber mats where you commonly walk and stand.

If it is the overall space, is the garage heated?
 
There’s less today as it’s milder out but Stihl plenty. The hardware on the man-door often has frost on it as well although I don’t feel any excessive air flow near the housings. Door itself has seals in good shape all around. Weirdly no frost on the side of the garage housing the bay doors just mostly the entire back wall.
You can do stuff from the inside but you end up with a curb. Is it possible to put some sort of foam insulation on the outside?

FWIW we used to get frost on the inside of our bedroom walls behind dressers. We re-insulated inside and never regretted doing the work.
 
5cm….that’s like one snowfall this year!

Glad I hustled like a mofo at the cottage. I’ve got icicles galore at the house now…and about a 2-3” ice dam. Glad most of the houses on my street have the same!
I think roof design snow load for southern ontario is on the order of 20 psf (for Windsor and Toronto, 40 psf for London, 50 psf for Barrie and Ottawa, 65 psf for Timmins). Not easy to hit with falling snow but very easy to exceed with rain on deep snow.

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Pulled snow down from >3' of perimeter of house and shed on Saturday. Roof appears to be about 3' deep of dense packed snow. Snow is behind soffit now so any melting snow should make it to the eavestrough instead of trying to form an ice dam. I only had a couple inches of ice in a couple valleys. The worst place is a isolated section of attic with a ridge vent. The ridge vent is obviously completely blocked. I put Maxx vents on the main roof which was a good idea as they are clear and venting well. I may go around again later today to get more weight off given the above. I'm not concerned about the snow but more its ability to hold water.
 
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Are you more concerned that it is making the overall space colder or that it is making your feet cold?

If it is feet, a good solution is rubber mats where you commonly walk and stand.

If it is the overall space, is the garage heated?
Mini-split in the garage would be cheaper than insulating the slab and make it quite nice to work in. It doesn't need to be fully conditioned space normally just moderated with the mini-split.
 
I think roof design snow load for southern ontario is on the order of 20 psf (for Windsor and Toronto, 40 psf for London, 50 psf for Barrie and Ottawa, 65 psf for Timmins). Not easy to hit with falling snow but very easy to exceed with rain on deep snow.

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Pulled snow down from >3' of perimeter of house and shed on Saturday. Roof appears to be about 3' deep of dense packed snow. Snow is behind soffit now so any melting snow should make it to the eavestrough instead of trying to form an ice dam. I only had a couple inches of ice in a couple valleys. The worst place is a isolated section of attic with a ridge vent. The ridge vent is obviously completely blocked. I put Maxx vens on the main roof which as a good idea as they are clear and venting well. I may go around again later today to get more weight off given the above. I'm not concerned about the snow but more its ability to hold water.
If I'm reading it right my 50 year old code book has graphs showing the GTA as 40 PSF. The minimum is 21 PSF.

Building code on line gives complex equations but maps show similar numbers.

Another site gives snow weight of 2 feet of dry snow as 7PSF, medium snow 24 PSF and heavy wet snow as 42 PSF, the worrying point. Ice is 5 PSF per inch.

The Intact number of having to clear at 5 cm (Two inches) got pulled out of a snowman's butt. Of course, it gives them an out if an odd situation comes up. Your roof was stressed by an earlier snowfall that you failed to clear.
 
If I'm reading it right my 50 year old code book has graphs showing the GTA as 40 PSF. The minimum is 21 PSF.

Building code on line gives complex equations but maps show similar numbers.

Another site gives snow weight of 2 feet of dry snow as 7PSF, medium snow 24 PSF and heavy wet snow as 42 PSF, the worrying point. Ice is 5 PSF per inch.

The Intact number of having to clear at 5 cm (Two inches) got pulled out of a snowman's butt. Of course, it gives them an out if an odd situation comes up. Your roof was stressed by an earlier snowfall that you failed to clear.
Clearing 5cm will do far more damage than it prevents. The damage caused by clearing it is not an insurance issue though. Intact deserves a throat-punch from the regulator for that statement. It is misleading and damaging.

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TDMM sent me a similar email with 5cm limit to remove snow/ice. Garbage. Deserves regulatory repercussions.

Simcoe county published a much more reasonable 2-3'.

A flat-roof commercial building downtown orillia partially collapsed. Roof fell in, walls pushed out. Likely going to be demolished as saving it is too much work.

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The commercial building in orillia was torn down today.

Ottawa lost a parking garage. Technically only partially collapsed but I can't see them saving it. All cars inside are destined to become pancakes. Insurance nightmare for the vehicle owners. It looks like the snow contractor piled all the snow on one side to keep some more spaces open on the top deck. I wonder how big their liability policy is?


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Sorted and organized my collection of spare pieces of wood and ends. Tell me you’re bored without actually saying it I guess.
After that I started reorganizing the rest of the shed and moved a bunch more stuff into the rafters that doesn’t ever get used/spares.
Have the fancy rubber coated wall hooks I need to put up after I plan the walls out.
 

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Are you more concerned that it is making the overall space colder or that it is making your feet cold?

If it is feet, a good solution is rubber mats where you commonly walk and stand.

If it is the overall space, is the garage heated?
More concerned about the overall space being cold. Basically the unheated garage went down to 2C during the coldest of days recently...and that's with adding weather stripping to the side door where there's no more light coming through the gaps.

I figure if I put some mats / dricore on the floor it would kill off some cold from the floor.

The fact that I walk in there without socks on sometimes and go barefoot...well that's another issue.
 
More concerned about the overall space being cold. Basically the unheated garage went down to 2C during the coldest of days recently...and that's with adding weather stripping to the side door where there's no more light coming through the gaps.

I figure if I put some mats / dricore on the floor it would kill off some cold from the floor.

The fact that I walk in there without socks on sometimes and go barefoot...well that's another issue.
Might be cheaper to buy thicker socks.
Heated socks maybe?
 
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