Wynne's approval rating the lowest recorded of any sitting premier

battle of wills
sadly like any illness it takes time to work it's way through
we know who will lose...sooner this time rather than later

For a group that says they do NOT want any govt in their lives then why are they pushing their lives/govt onto the rest of us.
Nobody is forcing them to be gay and have abortions.
 
The social conservatives and the progresssive conservatives are on two completely different astral plains. But they commute on the same bus. Until the infighting stops they will be awash in their own wave of silliness. It makes me so sad to be a conservative.
 
Now you have done it, a bunch of GTAMers will be voting for Wynne now :)

I'm voting for Wynne. It's the fastest way to hit rock bottom. No one will learn anything if this slide is arrested now. I want it to be obvious to everyone in the country that she totally f'd everything and everyone vows never again.
Rip off the band aid, pour in some salt, take the pain then get on with life.
 
I'm voting for Wynne. It's the fastest way to hit rock bottom. No one will learn anything if this slide is arrested now. I want it to be obvious to everyone in the country that she totally f'd everything and everyone vows never again.
Rip off the band aid, pour in some salt, take the pain then get on with life.

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LOL at the full freak out by a few here on the PC's because of one niagara nomination. News flash (hint, sarcasm), all parties have fringe elements and representatives. The party platforms will be solidified and released in detail as stand-alone documents before any election which will show what you are voting for. More or less though,..... because if it is the ON liberals you never know as Wynne's last platform never mentioned the huge policy position of selling the hydro-one crown corp which has been undertaken. I see far more hypocrisy with the ON libtards than in a small constituency nomination.

Ontario gets the government they voted for (continually) and thus deserve.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...over-sudbury-bribery-scandal/article32612342/

https://www.thestar.com/news/queens...pp-charges-related-to-sudbury-byelection.html

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/lougheed-charged-elections-act-1.3830599

And the OPP has done a great job of delaying any action for as long as possible it seems. Now almost two years later. And with recorded conversation evidence from the start. It was over a year and a half ago that Elections Ontario chief Greg Essensa investigated and released a 29-page report concluding the Liberals were in “apparent contravention” of bribery laws over the job offers to Olivier.

How high does it go? I guess it doesn't matter as there won't be any accountability anyway.

In one recording, Lougheed said: “The premier wants to talk. They would like to present you options in terms of appointments, jobs, whatever, that you and her and Pat Sorbara could talk about.”

Ms. Wynne repeatedly refused to answer questions about whether she had ordered Ms. Sorbara and Mr. Lougheed to offer Mr. Olivier a job in exchange for quitting the race.
 
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if she moves on now, nothing happens. keep here there until we reach that tipping point where a real mob shows up at queens park to tear her guts out and no one steps in front of them to appeal to reason. because by that point, there will be none.
 
Ontarians are getting what they voted for. They were warned, but they listened to the leftist Toronto Star and the CBC and voted Liberal again. Anything would have been better. Higher taxes, widespread corruption, outrageous taxes masquerading as green levies, it goes on and on. That's what you get for being uninformed and stupid. Looks good on Ontario. Starting to look more like Michigan.
 
something today about the byelection Liberal party member bribary charges???

Wynne is over her head and pulling us all down with her....damn!
 
something today about the byelection Liberal party member bribary charges???

Wynne is over her head and pulling us all down with her....damn!

Patricia Sorbara, Sudbury MPP resigned. Looks like she bribed the other candidate not to run against her by promising a public service job. Suggestions that Wynne knew about it and did nothing. All being investigated by the OPP. I think it should be done by the RCMP from here on in.
 
Patricia Sorbara, Sudbury MPP resigned. Looks like she bribed the other candidate not to run against her by promising a public service job. Suggestions that Wynne knew about it and did nothing. All being investigated by the OPP. I think it should be done by the RCMP from here on in.

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I agree RCMP, seems like a federal crime...no?
 
RCMP led the Mike Duffy show, no guarantee of better results than an OPP would generate
 
I did not and never ever will vote For her.

I understand that 14% of voters believe in her.

To put it in perspective, 14% of people believe in Big Foot. Enough said?
 
Ontarians are getting what they voted for. They were warned, but they listened to the leftist Toronto Star and the CBC and voted Liberal again. Anything would have been better. Higher taxes, widespread corruption, outrageous taxes masquerading as green levies, it goes on and on. That's what you get for being uninformed and stupid. Looks good on Ontario. Starting to look more like Michigan.

Ontario actually has one of the lowest income tax rates in Canada:

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

Corporate tax rates are a little high in the bottom range and low in the upper range:

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/bsnss/tpcs/crprtns/rts-eng.html

Sales tax rates are in and about the middle:

http://www.calculconversion.com/sales-tax-calculator-hst-gst.html

No doubt the user fees are high but on the grand scheme of things income and sales is the vast majority of what we pay. Seems like you were having a Trump Moment.

For the record she has to go but making up stuff will not get her out...
 
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Just for clarification Pat Sorbara not an MPP but former chief of staff to Wynne and currently/was now in charge of Liberal Party re-election team. Highest level liberal party hack. Wynne's top advisor and confidant.


Patricia Sorbara, Sudbury MPP resigned. Looks like she bribed the other candidate not to run against her by promising a public service job. Suggestions that Wynne knew about it and did nothing. All being investigated by the OPP. I think it should be done by the RCMP from here on in.
 
Just for clarification Pat Sorbara not an MPP but former chief of staff to Wynne and currently/was now in charge of Liberal Party re-election team. Highest level liberal party hack. Wynne's top advisor and confidant.

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So do what you gotta do just don't let me know or leave a trail back to me.

At the end of the day the damage is done.
And they wonder why ppl don't bother voting.
 
Ontarians are getting what they voted for. They were warned, but they listened to the leftist Toronto Star and the CBC and voted Liberal again. Anything would have been better. Higher taxes, widespread corruption, outrageous taxes masquerading as green levies, it goes on and on. That's what you get for being uninformed and stupid. Looks good on Ontario. Starting to look more like Michigan.

I blame a lot of the unions who told their people to vote liberal. There was misinformation about the pcs and their agenda. I can't count how many of my friends thought to vote for PC was to vote AGAINST. The unions. Now look where we are at FU$@Ed!! Thank you to all you liberal voters for screwing over Ontario
 
Ontario actually has one of the lowest income tax rates in Canada:

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

Corporate tax rates are a little high in the bottom range and low in the upper range:

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/bsnss/tpcs/crprtns/rts-eng.html

Sales tax rates are in and about the middle:

http://www.calculconversion.com/sales-tax-calculator-hst-gst.html

No doubt the user fees are high but on the grand scheme of things income and sales is the vast majority of what we pay. Seems like you were having a Trump Moment.

For the record she has to go but making up stuff will not get her out...

Bullsh!t. Ontario is only behind Quebec for the highest tax intake and has been that way since "No new Taxes" McSquinty lied his way into power.

http://www.conferenceboard.ca/press/newsrelease/16-05-02/quebec_has_highest_provincial_business_and_personal_tax_burden_among_all_canadian_provinces.aspx

Liberal apologists like you love to dump all over populist politicians like Trump and Ford, but you forget there's a reason they become popular. Ontario is governed by morons right now. It got that way because the people who vote for them are morons. And NO it wasn't the fault of the unions. People don't have to vote with their union. Besides, unions only represent a small fraction of the voters in Ontario. It was helped by media in Ontario, owned by interests who support the Liberal Party like Honderich, Thompson and BCE.
 
I blame a lot of the unions who told their people to vote liberal. There was misinformation about the pcs and their agenda. I can't count how many of my friends thought to vote for PC was to vote AGAINST. The unions. Now look where we are at FU$@Ed!! Thank you to all you liberal voters for screwing over Ontario

What Tim Hudak and the "P"Cs did when it came to unions was one of the dumbest things I have ever seen. The unions were fighting the Liberals, no way they were going to support them in the election until.... Then Timmy starts going on about "Right to Work" legislation, starts attacking the unions. Sure in the end he dropped it but he already picked the fight. Now some info from statscan, at that time 28% of workers in Ontario were in a union, reasonably 40% of all households have a union member. SO, Timmy saw the unions fighting the Liberals, then decides to pick a fight with 40% of the voters? Then the conservative cries that it is all the union's fault.

This is like a kid in the school yard watching two other kids he does not like fight. Instead of letting them fight the kid attacks the one of the two kids mid fight and then gets a beating from the first two. THEN the cries of being a victim.

All he had to do, keep his mouth shut, unions would have told their members to not vote Liberal. It was that simple.

Bullsh!t. Ontario is only behind Quebec for the highest tax intake and has been that way since "No new Taxes" McSquinty lied his way into power.

http://www.conferenceboard.ca/press/newsrelease/16-05-02/quebec_has_highest_provincial_business_and_personal_tax_burden_among_all_canadian_provinces.aspx

Liberal apologists like you love to dump all over populist politicians like Trump and Ford, but you forget there's a reason they become popular. Ontario is governed by morons right now. It got that way because the people who vote for them are morons. And NO it wasn't the fault of the unions. People don't have to vote with their union. Besides, unions only represent a small fraction of the voters in Ontario. It was helped by media in Ontario, owned by interests who support the Liberal Party like Honderich, Thompson and BCE.

FYI, I WAS a life long PC for the most part (P being key), I voted for both Ford's. Now that the conservatism has become bigotry and trickle down/supply side economics I am done with it. Trump (and Harper here) is a great example of modern conservatism, bigotry (check) supply side economics (check). Not the world I want to live in. I will stay unaffiliated as long as they stay the way they have become. But it is all the media's fault, or unions...always someone else's fault, always the victim.

Next, I posted 2016 CRA (you know revenue Canada, they are the ones that do that tax thing). Your response is broken a link to a conference board article about Quebec that is using data that is 5 to 8 years old?

As I said, Wynne and the Provincial Liberals need to go, just like Harper and the Conservatives needed to go. She cranked Ontario's debt, he cranked Canada's. Red pig, blue pig, same results just different ways to get there.

What we have is a trough, there are blue pigs, red pigs, orange pigs and one green pig. They are all pigs fighting to get to the trough, when one colour gets too fat, the voters swap them out with a new colour. It is very cute and sad that people think that one colour of pig is better than the others, just because they are that colour... The red pigs in Ontario are way too fat, we need to fatten up another colour.
 
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I think the thread can be closed, you summed it up pretty well.

We are all doomed, until someone smart, decent, charismatic and willing to invest their own life to give power back to people and lead tem out of this mess. Looks like a huge and I mean huge pipe dream.
 
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