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Working out! Fitness! Nutrition!

Soooo many different ways to go about it when starting.

Losing weight can be attained different ways...
Strength training is a popular way, if you dont know where/how to start
You'll need to read a little about different ways to go about it before choosing one.

Starting strength - Mark Rippetoe
good if you have a gym membership

Convict Conditioning - Paul Wade
good if you like bodyweight exercises and wanna workout at home

http://www.fitness666.com/p/bodyweight-666.html
another bodyweight / at home kinda deal

Leangains - http://www.leangains.com/2008/06/brief-primer-on-popular-approaches-to.html
Maybe more advanced...but something to look at

Paleo diet and how to ease into it
http://everydaypaleo.com/faq/
http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2013/01/22/super-mario-eating/

etc etc etc...lots of resources on the net, its just a matter if getting informed properly, making decisions, sticking to them.
Im personally using fitocracy (fitness social network) to help me with support and sometimes get ideas to mix it up:
http://ftcy.me/xHpmiP

But seriously, whatever floats your boat.

Main thing to remember, diet does most of the work.
You cant outwork a really crappy diet.
Most people cant have a perfect diet 100% of the time thats why you might treat yourself, say, 1 day or 1.5 days a week...as long as youre not overindulging in a food orgy that would make Bacchus proud.

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RockerGuy said:
I must admit losing weight does cut back on your strength.
I have a feeling I might have cut back on my muscles. I lost 8lbs & I can't bench as much. I'm going back to 3 full meals a day
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eh...how much you lift is really just bragging rights to other guys, unless you are competing...just remember whom you are trying to impress...YOURSELF...and perhaps some lady friends in your life.
 
TomC said:
eh...how much you lift is really just bragging rights to other guys, unless you are competing...just remember whom you are trying to impress...YOURSELF...and perhaps some lady friends in your life.
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It took me awhile to lift that much, so I kinda feel defeated
 
RockerGuy said:
It took me awhile to lift that much, so I kinda feel defeated
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You just got to keep in mind that everything in life, including strength is temporary and impossible to sustain. If you think that way, it really doesn't matter how many plates are on the bar as long as its challenging and stimulating to your body.

If I could get the same intensity out of using weights half as heavy in general as the weights that I use, I would go that route everyday because it'd save my joints and put me at less risk of injury over time..

"Ego-lifting" (what I call non-competitive power lifting) over a long period of time can really beat down on your body. Sooner or later, joint, neck, back problems kick in. Then when you are 60, and you can't even roll out of bed without pain.
 
toshison said:
You just got to keep in mind that everything in life, including strength is temporary and impossible to sustain. If you think that way, it really doesn't matter how many plates are on the bar as long as its challenging and stimulating to your body.

If I could get the same intensity out of using weights half as heavy in general as the weights that I use, I would go that route everyday because it'd save my joints and put me at less risk of injury over time..

"Ego-lifting" (what I call non-competitive power lifting) over a long period of time can really beat down on your body. Sooner or later, joint, neck, back problems kick in. Then when you are 60, and you can't even roll out of bed without pain.
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I've been doing it casually for 10yrs. Haven't had any major injuries

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RockerGuy said:
I've been doing it casually for 10yrs. Haven't had any major injuries

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I think he's talking about WAY down the road.

I remember reading this article on some 60 year dude who swam religiously everyday. They did a health study on him and concluded that he was, over-all, very healthy for his age, with the exception of having poor joint stability and bone density...attributed to the fact that he never lifted. Lifting greatly helps in that aspect.

Now, over-lifting to the point of pro bodybuilders, or perhaps even fitness models, is it detrimental in the long term? Probably. My chiro and physio have both told me there are significant imbalances in my body, and I'm not even that serious of a lifter. I use to be 160 ish years back, I'm down to 140 now....much weaker now in terms of raw strength, but I have much better strength-weight ratio, lighter on my feet, and i don't gas as easily - all of which are important for the sports and activities I do outside the gym. Plus I looked like a refridgerator.

Being visually huge, ripped, aesthetic, and "proportional" most likely contradicts being proportional and healthy in sports medicine practices. Who do you think lived a healthier life, Hal Johnson who is still kicking it, or Zyzz who died in a thailand spa due to a 'heart attack'?
 
Zyzz had a heart defect that was genetic and he was a heavy roids and recreational drug user as well. Let's not compare apples to oranges shall we?

I'm not saying that bodybuilding or power lifting is ideal for your body but I would also argue that playing some sports is worse than just lifting weights properly, especially contact sports. There is a reason you don't see NFL players past their mid-thirties.
 
ya its not a fair comparison, my pt is...if you take any exercise or sport too far, it's not going to be healthy. On the other hand, living a balanced lifestyle is kind of boring.
 
I've been going to Strengthbox for about a year now and it made a huge difference for me in all aspects(strength, endurance, cardio, etc). Much better than going to a regular gym imo(even though I still have a membership to LAF), because these are small group workouts and its easier to keep motivated over time.
 
thanks... ahh still have to drive 15 mins or wait 1+ days #1stworldproblems

huhuhu they have a category for vibration machines

power rack prices have really gone down...
 
LePhillou said:
http://www.fitness666.com/p/bodyweight-666.html
another bodyweight / at home kinda deal
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Thanks for this... I'm considering trying it. Some of the progressions are genius...but I'm a little skeptica because body weight exercises have never really worked for me. The only problem that I see is that certain progressions would work some parts of the muscle better (aka they're not really progressions, but variations).

Anyone care to chime in?
 
Amazon said:
Haven't been to the gym in a while, but started going every day again last week and I can now dead lift someone else's body weight :p Could do a few reps of 145lbs before having to take a rest so as not to screw up my form.
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I'm deadlifting over 100lbs my weight at 5 reps :p

I squat over 100lbs my weight too
 
RockerGuy said:
I'm deadlifting over 100lbs my weight at 5 reps :p

I squat over 100lbs my weight too
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Well you know I got to start somewhere. So far only squatting 65lbs but my legs could easily do more, just the bar hurts across the top of my back.

Now you said over 100lbs your weight, so what is your weight?
 
Amazon said:
Haven't been to the gym in a while, but started going every day again last week and I can now dead lift someone else's body weight :p Could do a few reps of 145lbs before having to take a rest so as not to screw up my form.
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It's like riding a bike. You never forget, it just hurts more as you get older. I can still start my leg presses with 6 plates a side and go up to 10. If I take time off (which happens in the summer months) and I go back I'm starting with 3 and stopping at 6.


Amazon said:
Well you know I got to start somewhere. So far only squatting 65lbs but my legs could easily do more, just the bar hurts across the top of my back.
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At my gym there's pads for doing squats. If you're working out at a gym and can't see any with the equipment maybe ask a staff member? If you're working out at home look into one. They help a lot I find. I used to hate squats until I discovered this pad. Now I can manage more than my own weight and it doesn't hurt my neck/shoulders at all.
 
knowledge said:
Thanks for this... I'm considering trying it. Some of the progressions are genius...but I'm a little skeptica because body weight exercises have never really worked for me. The only problem that I see is that certain progressions would work some parts of the muscle better (aka they're not really progressions, but variations).

Anyone care to chime in?
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thats why i also suggested convict conditioning. ive been on that program since december and its definitely progressions and it increases in difficulty step after step after step.
varying is necessary because after a while your body becomes too "efficient" at doing a certain same, move so progress will decrease. thats why you get variations :D

fitness666 is just free and accessible whereas the CC 1 & 2 well..you can always download it off a torrent if you want.

i paid for it as i use it regularly.
 
LePhillou said:
thats why i also suggested convict conditioning. ive been on that program since december and its definitely progressions and it increases in difficulty step after step after step.
varying is necessary because after a while your body becomes too "efficient" at doing a certain same, move so progress will decrease. thats why you get variations :D

fitness666 is just free and accessible whereas the CC 1 & 2 well..you can always download it off a torrent if you want.

i paid for it as i use it regularly.
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I wouldn't mind paying for it if it really works. I have the same concern, though: just because it can be done, it doesn't mean it's the best way to do it. Can better results be had if you just use weights, or is it really on par with lifting?

I haven't seen body weight regimens work exceptionally well for anyone else but people who have tons of fast twitch muscles (read: not the average person). If you really want to read between the lines: body weight regimens tend to work better for black people (lol)...which is crazy because that adds another factor to the already overly-complicated science of working out.
 
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