I love when I can rely on my personal experience and not opinions in left field. If you are concerned about your braking, don't tailgate, drive slower, and don't speed up when someone goes to pass. That's just being rude.
Hey "ItIsWhatItIs" don't bother with this forum, in terms of trying to talk about something new and different. Like most car forums and bike forums, there is always that hand full of people who think they own the forum, and talk trash to new people or people who have a different opinion, simply because they cannot handle someone else being better or getting more attention then them or knowing something they don't, since they have been on that forum for such a long time.
listening to "caboose483" just by the way he talks, you'll see a sign of arrogance, so are a few that always seem to back him up, they will be productive as long as its their thread or something they like, then talk nonsense the other half of the time, and come back with useless talk that will lead the conversation to hell most certainly.I think, they don't realise but they base all their conversation based on SS track experience.
But credit to "soto" the only one who "eventually posts in these types of posts to get them on point again" & actually takes the time to understand what the F the op is on about and comes back with very ligitimate opinions or discussion...credit is due where its due! he is a smart person from what little replies i've seen of his.
imo guys like caboose might be good at what they claim, but i don't think they even own any other bike other then a SS, SS bikes are "to me" only for hot summer weather & "limited experience" they are talking from the point of a corvette to something like what you are talking about, a small cc dual sport bike which in terms of abilities is like a small Suv vs sports car,"& i concure a 125 like the one you states WILL stop faster then any car, heck so does my 250 even in wet"... they will never understand what you are trying to say, because they are basing their opinion not on physics but on summer SS bikes. They don't even understand that with different bikes, the physics change, depending on what purpose the bike was built to overcome "phyzically", no sane person rides a SS all year round, most people who do ride have winter purose bikes like dualies & other off road style bikes, & are not idiots to ride in stormy weather nor in bad icy conditions, as a biker in summer is concerned with good weather, winter riders are even more cautious about the weather in winter.
In winter riding becomes more to do with small distance transportation then going out and riding around for pleasure like in summer, offcourse riding a 250 or 125 in fresh snow in a parking lot is fun too. There are many kinds of bikers, there are those who just buy brand new bikes to pose at timmies, then those who buy it for adrenalin and track use, stunting etc, and then there are those who just love riding so much that they would do anything to ride all year and any type of riding as mentioned, as long as they are riding, be it for fun or to save money or to get somewhere.
As for bike VS car in stopping, anyone claiming phyzics saying a car stops faster then a bike is a complete MORON! first of all its not that basic or easy to claim, no one mentioned in what condition, what situation and what size of bike and what type of surface.
Obviously if a SS bike is ripping down the street at 160kmh or 200kmh its going to take longer then a car to stop! but it will stop faster with more G forces then a car on normal dry roads in summer, as on an average a car is not going to be traveling that fast anywhere on the roads nor has the stopping ability to do so.
On the otherhand try stopping a SS 600cc from 260kmh to 0kmh vs an average car with the same speed on the hwy, the bike will destroy the average car in such performance. But in winter most people drive ride slow, obviously going that fast in winter is moronic, but even then slower @ 70kmh or less an average car vs a bike @ the same speed bike will stop faster even in wet "if you know how to and practice alot", if cars stopped faster then bikes, no biker would be able to out run cops buy doing a double back.
If a car was going fast it would crash too regardless - icy, wet or snowy conditions, if for any reason it lost control on such surfaces. Also, it's not that simple, at high speeds over 120kmh, SS bikes stop faster then any other type of bike, because of downforce, there is a reason why SS bikes have an up swing tail & other fairing work, and so many newer bikes have a wider flatter tail, its to increase down force, so at higher speeds to increase stopping performance downforce bodyworks helps the bike stop faster, which increases the weight of the bike the faster it is moving from a 400lbs bike to 1000lbs, a normal car has no such feature, only sports cars have that, if at all or F1 cars.
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