Winter Riding Motorcycle harassment

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nobbie48 said:
If all the costs were fully weighted a very small car will financially outperform a bike any day. A few people might be able to play the system due to lifestyle arrangements but it's hard to beat the efficiency of a cage based on 24/365 usage.
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Pay $20 a day for parking down town vs free motorcycle parking and tell me if that still works out. If you live and work downtown the scooter will become king!
 
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ItIsWhatItIs said:
Because you don't agree with something it makes it silly. For the all the soldiers who lost their lives fighting the taliban in afganistan, Iraq or Libya. Why did they do it? What was the point of it? This thread only reveals what's at the core of people.
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Really man. Maybe they did it because it was their jobs. Not very complicated to figure out. I think the question you want to ask is why does our government keep interfering in other peoples business?
 
I think he's ****ing with you.
 
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ItIsWhatItIs said:
dude, if I had that bike I definately would not put it away for the winter. Depending on the mpg you go by 78 us mpg or 96 imp mpg. Not only do you get that kind of fuel economy I can jump on the road and off the Road when I feel like it. There is more than 500 km of Trails in my county. If that bike can handle off road conditions it can definately handle freezing rain or snowing conditions.
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So now you're saying because a bike can ride off-road in dirt and mud it can automatically handle just as well on ice and snow? Mud is not as slippery as ice. Add to that the freezing temps making the tires harder and less effective. If your logic there made sense we would see tons of guys out in winter on dirtbikes on trials and on-off road bikes on the highways, yet we don't.. Yes it is possible to ride in snow and on ice, but it's extremely difficult and dangerous, factor in all the other traffic on the roads you have to watch for, and that's the reason you see very few people risking it. Time to close this thread man geez
 
I was not aware that a bike or a car or any other vehicle had any right at all to be on the road. Neato, I learned something today.
 
ItIsWhatItIs said:
In anycase, a bike is plated and insured for the whole year. A bike has just as much right to be on the road as a car.
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You're confusing the "right" of a given type of vehicle to be on the road at any time with the advisability of a given type of vehicle to be on the road at any time in any kind of driving conditions. The two are far from being the same thing.
 
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reciprocity said:
Carbs have not been redesigned any time recently.

same ol' same ol'

another piece of inaccurate information you are providing.
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And not that this is a perfect comparison, but in the most recent Motorcycle Mojo test, the (injected) CBR250R got 94 mpg observed mileage vs. the (carb'd) Ninja 250R's 70 mpg.

Both are still great for fuel mileage, and there's other variables (2-cyl vs. 1-cyl), but there is a substantial difference.

Even on a dialed-in carbed car, I've seen wideband 02 sensor jump dramatically across the rev range at different throttle settings.

You should take a carb apart sometime! By the way, I like hash browns with my Egg McMuffin.
 
reciprocity said:
Carbs have not been redesigned any time recently.

same ol' same ol'

another piece of inaccurate information you are providing.
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You are wrong, carbs were redesigned, it's called Fuel Injection. Why would anyone continue to work with carburetors, It's like a company continuing to put old suspensions on motorcycles...oh never mind I forgot about Harleys
 
About the only bright spot is that re-jetting is cheaper than buying a power commander. But yes, I have battled carbs and look forward to buying a FI bike.
 
The problem with carbs is people spend too much time fooling with them.

Leave it alone and ride it.

Take a look at regional level grand prix bike racing, the riders that are the most successful usually spend the least amount of time fiddling.

Those that spend every weekend chasing the "PERFECT" setup never seem to go any quicker.

They'll never be perfect, so you get close and ride around the problem.
 
The cool thing is, that if you drive inappropriate for the conditions or get careless in the winter, fall off and hit something, they already have a charge for that on the books.

Mix that in with other drivers not seeing many motorcycles on the road in the winter, not expecting motorcycles on the road in winter, and not always driving appropriate to the weather, and you have a recipe for disaster.

My friend had a painful 2 year hiatus after being rear-ended while stopped to make a right turn at a red light, between Christmas and New Year's. His settlement was reduced because he couldn't afford to stop working for two years.

To me even the consequences of successfully riding somewhere in winter are a negative, because then you have to ride back home, in what might be worse weather conditions. Oct/Nov & Feb/Mar weather is "schizo" enough.
 
ZX600 said:
You are wrong, carbs were redesigned, it's called Fuel Injection. Why would anyone continue to work with carburetors, It's like a company continuing to put old suspensions on motorcycles...oh never mind I forgot about Harleys
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If this is true why have we had carburetors continuing to exist notwithstanding that fuel injection has been around since at least the 1930's? They've only become common on motorcycles this century.
 
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