Windows 8 anyone?

OK, statistics for server market - clearly NOT the Internet server share. Note where the word *INTERNET* is included in that statement.

When one of the companies this year moved from Windows to Linux this year, after the 10 year agreement Microsoft had with them to lock down millions of domain names on the Windows OS in order to skew estimates, the market share changed immediately. Literally, Microsoft was paying the company to make estimates from many companies (like Netcraft) favour Windows - and they STILL couldn't make it look like Windows had the major market share. Plenty of articles about it - Google is your friend.

So, yeah. There's that. 2012's count is going to look a lot different.

But in general, the chances are that if you find an Internet server running Windows, it's probably a small business who runs their Exchange system and IIS on the Internet. It's very unlikely to be a server with any real content on it. If you discount the private mom & pop shops doing that, there is virtually no Windows servers. You can't run a Facebook, Google, MySpace, Wordpress, Twitter, etc. on a Microsoft operating system - they just won't scale and they don't have the flexibility. It's unlikely that they ever will.

But on top of that, even Microsoft recognizes this. Take a look at their distribution system over the Internet. It's practically all BSD or Linux. Akamai doesn't use Windows servers (for example). Microsoft was so freaked out about being discovered running BSD for all their Internet servers that years ago, they actually modified the TCP/IP stack to look like Windows. Again, Google is your friend.

So please... don't for a second think that Windows is a major player on Internet servers. And it's not going to be.
 
OK, statistics for server market - clearly NOT the Internet server share. Note where the word *INTERNET* is included in that statement.

When one of the companies this year moved from Windows to Linux this year, after the 10 year agreement Microsoft had with them to lock down millions of domain names on the Windows OS in order to skew estimates, the market share changed immediately. Literally, Microsoft was paying the company to make estimates from many companies (like Netcraft) favour Windows - and they STILL couldn't make it look like Windows had the major market share. Plenty of articles about it - Google is your friend.

So, yeah. There's that. 2012's count is going to look a lot different.

But in general, the chances are that if you find an Internet server running Windows, it's probably a small business who runs their Exchange system and IIS on the Internet. It's very unlikely to be a server with any real content on it. If you discount the private mom & pop shops doing that, there is virtually no Windows servers. You can't run a Facebook, Google, MySpace, Wordpress, Twitter, etc. on a Microsoft operating system - they just won't scale and they don't have the flexibility. It's unlikely that they ever will.

But on top of that, even Microsoft recognizes this. Take a look at their distribution system over the Internet. It's practically all BSD or Linux. Akamai doesn't use Windows servers (for example). Microsoft was so freaked out about being discovered running BSD for all their Internet servers that years ago, they actually modified the TCP/IP stack to look like Windows. Again, Google is your friend.

So please... don't for a second think that Windows is a major player on Internet servers. And it's not going to be.

No one said/thinks Windows is a major player on web servers (Internet servers??? Never heard that before).


Edit: Take a look at the charts on netcraft...

http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2012/11/01/november-2012-web-server-survey.html
 
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Oooh! Netcraft confirms it! (insert further /. memes here)

.....and I assumed that I was replying versus my claim that practically all the Internet servers are based on *nix.
 
Oooh! Netcraft confirms it! (insert further /. memes here)

.....and I assumed that I was replying versus my claim that practically all the Internet servers are based on *nix.

I do not consider ~72% "almost 100% of the market".

And why do you continue to use the term "Internet" Servers? The Correct term is Web Servers, unless we are talking about different topics.
 
Because there's more to the Internet than just the web. Which is why Netcraft is highly suspect in its findings... and has been a bit of a joke for years. Practically anything you WANT to connect to on the Internet that isn't your own network is almost certainly running on Linux or a BSD.

That the way it is.
 
Because there's more to the Internet than just the web. Which is why Netcraft is highly suspect in its findings... and has been a bit of a joke for years. Practically anything you WANT to connect to on the Internet that isn't your own network is almost certainly running on Linux or a BSD.

That the way it is.

Here you go talking out of your *****.

Please define, Web Server and Internet Server. Heck, googling for "Internet Server" doesn't even bring any hits on the first page.
 
Haha you have to be kidding me. You think all internet services run on http/https? Please. I put my first web server up in 1993 - COMPILED IT AND THE OPERATING SYSTEM from source. Save me the lecture.

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Btw that was NCSA server on Solaris 4.11 (rebuilt) and later Spinner. Apache wasn't around at that time. Feel old.

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Haha you have to be kidding me. You think all internet services run on http/https? Please. I put my first web server up in 1993 - COMPILED IT AND THE OPERATING SYSTEM from source. Save me the lecture.

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When did i even mention http/https? Always putting things in my mouth or just assuming things.
 
Say no more. It might help to understand where I am coming from if I tell you I am presently listening to Bill Sandford introduce the chair of the CRTC who is about to speak to us at the 2012 CNOC event. Google is your friend for who that is because typing on my phone is getting to be a pain.

Btw he just told us that the CRTC has a roadmap to 2017 but we should go to the website for details. Ugh. This is gonna be a rah rah speech. :(
 
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Ok maybe not. Talking about how capacity based billing for phase two costing is on the front burner. Get it right and real competition is possible. Those who found their unlimited internet capped should be hopeful that greater transparency is coming, at least for wholesale.

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Windows 8 looks like crap.

It was also leaked/released like 2 months ago (free).
 
Windows 8 looks like crap.

It was also leaked/released like 2 months ago (free).

Why does it look like crap?

Wife's been using W8 for at least the last 6 month on her Asus Laptop (Touch screen)

7's touch feature worked well but w8 works much much better since its a true Touch* Os
 
Why does it look like crap?

Wife's been using W8 for at least the last 6 month on her Asus Laptop (Touch screen)

7's touch feature worked well but w8 works much much better since its a true Touch* Os

I think that's the real problem here; it's a 'true touch OS.' I don't use touchscreen. None of my equipment is set up for it. Why should I have to default to a touch tile interface?
 
Why can't you decide not to use it at all...
 
Why can't you decide not to use it at all...

Windows 8, or the tile interface? Apparently since the RC, you've needed a third party app to bypass the tile interface. I had been messing with the Betas, and so didn't know that they had done that until I started looking around because of this thread.
 
Windows 8, or the tile interface? Apparently since the RC, you've needed a third party app to bypass the tile interface. I had been messing with the Betas, and so didn't know that they had done that until I started looking around because of this thread.

Start the registry editor and scroll down to ‘HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionExplorer’. On the right side, you will find the string ‘RPEnabled’ and change it from the value ‘1’ to ‘0’.
 
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