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Will the real Pierre Poilievre please stand up?

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Sheer was the equivalent of running a piece of toast. O'Toole a book of dad jokes (with illustrations). You couldn't shoot yourself in the foot better with a zero choke 12 Ga.
Yet they were the best for the job. Lmao
At least now, when the cons say everyone has to work to 70 before you get CCP. It won't affect me.
I wonder when abortion will get banned.
 
That sounds like he doesn't really have a plan and is just going to download the problem onto already cash strapped municipalities.
It’s a change in the way govt works.

hes planning to change the way federal funds are allocated. Squander federal money and miss your targets - no soup for you.

Hit your goals and get funded. Exceed you goals and you get the funds that are not going to the municipalities that are failing.

Sounds a lot like the common sense any citizen you’ll use when making personal investments.
 
Yet they were the best for the job. Lmao
At least now, when the cons say everyone has to work to 70 before you get CCP. It won't affect me.
I wonder when abortion will get banned.
Where do you get your info?

Neither CPP at 70 or abortion rights are under discussion, and every party in Canada has made it crystal clear they will not be.
 
I think we should give pierre his due, hes been harping on about the finances and economics for the last 5+ years, he looks like a prophet in this economy.

Maybe, but it didn't take a rocket doctor to attack the Liberal big spending approach of the past few years. Even Keynesians were puzzled by the logic when the economy showed strength after the initial hiccup of Covid. Inflation wasn't caused by Liberal policy (as noted elsewhere, it's just as bad globally, and worse in many places), but piling up huge debt without much to show for it is a burden we'll all have to carry for a long time.

Im not much in favor of maligning people for their views(albertans or anyone else), but they were right about many things (government overreach, draconian policies, censorship etc)

I won't touch the last three except to say that I have a feeling we disagree on a number of points, and that's for a different thread. But Alberta politics has become a game of who can blame Ottawa/Ontario/Quebec the most and loudest, which is incredibly damaging to the country. I have family out there, and it's hard to overstate how much every problem under the sun is being pinned on central Canada. Oil prices down? Ontario's fault. Food prices up? Ontario's fault. City centres increasingly voting left? Ontario's fault. Their politics have become increasingly divisive, where compromise and courtesy, especially on the right, are seen as weaknesses. Maybe I'm overstating it, but for me, this is exactly what will be the end of democracy. But again, that's for a different thread...
 
I don’t think we will see the “real” Pierre until he’s in office for a year . Right now the game is oppose almost anything the Lib or NDP propose , promise to reverse bills and laws , ensure the CPP is fully funded and claim to have a program to address housing . Get in office and stay in office . I’m no fan of JT , or PP actually, but JT has had his turn and now it’s time for a refresh . It won’t bring sweeping change , but a change of command is required .


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He's 'promised' to cut red tape and tie municipal funding to housing targets. Don't hit 15% housing growth every year? Then you don't get federal money.
How is that different from debtors prison? If you won't get a job we'll lock you up so you can't get a job.
 
I’m in Florida right now and I’m surprised at how high the price of food has gone up

It’s seems the same price if not more than we have
When my parents started going to Panama City Beach in the early 1980's they brought non perishables back because they were so cheap. A decade or so later my mother commented that the prices were like in Canada but they were US dollars.
 
… Inflation wasn't caused by Liberal policy (as noted elsewhere, it's just as bad globally, and worse in many places), but piling up huge debt without much to show for it is a burden we'll all have to carry for a long time.
This is incorrect. The Liberals didn’t just cause inflation, they turbocharged.

It’s basic economics - increase demand without increasing supply will cause prices to rise through bid up (inflation).

1) Libersls blew $600billion if unplanned cash ito the economy at a time when good supplies were interrupted. Those billions chased scarce goods which caused prices to rise.

2) Libersls juiced demand for housing across the country by doubling immigration rates, and increasing student visa approvals from 140k to 900k. With no plan to manage population growth and housing supply, the again moved the dupply/demand equilibrium higher - record house price inflation.

3) Carbon taxes are simple, good cost increases at about 1.4x the tax. More inflation

4) The final killer was BOC fixing inflation. Raising prime by 500% inflated all financing costs and most real estate rents.

While there was some inflation around the world, Canada (and the USA) get a F. Most of the developed world has inflation under control -we dont. Canadas inflation rate is still 30% higher than the Euro zone, and our commercial lending rates 50 to 100% higher.
 
This is incorrect. The Liberals didn’t just cause inflation, they turbocharged.

It’s basic economics - increase demand without increasing supply will cause prices to rise through bid up (inflation).

1) Libersls blew $600billion if unplanned cash ito the economy at a time when good supplies were interrupted. Those billions chased scarce goods which caused prices to rise.

2) Libersls juiced demand for housing across the country by doubling immigration rates, and increasing student visa approvals from 140k to 900k. With no plan to manage population growth and housing supply, the again moved the dupply/demand equilibrium higher - record house price inflation.

3) Carbon taxes are simple, good cost increases at about 1.4x the tax. More inflation

4) The final killer was BOC fixing inflation. Raising prime by 500% inflated all financing costs and most real estate rents.

While there was some inflation around the world, Canada (and the USA) get a F. Most of the developed world has inflation under control -we dont. Canadas inflation rate is still 30% higher than the Euro zone, and our commercial lending rates 50 to 100% higher.
Yup, this level of idiocy came back to bite us.

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He doesn't have to be the best person for the job. He just has to be better alternative to Trudeau. And that isn't a big ask.
That is true but I would like to set the bar a bit higher.
 
what part of the plan is not a plan?
If just telling someone else top fix it is your idea of a plan then we have different ideas as to what a plan is.
 
It's sad that you think his only job is to whine and complain. How about offering viable alternatives?
My takeaway here was your use of the word viable. Who says it's viable, you?

If you`re subjectively not happy with his proposals then that's your problem, make sure he knows that with your vote. But don't conflate your disdain for what he's saying as him saying nothing. If you want him to do MORE, then that's fine, but you act like he's said nothing.

I believe you`re being disingenuous because you don't like him, and that's sad.
 
It's sad that you think his only job is to whine and complain. How about offering viable alternatives?
His job is to challenge govt policy that doesn’t benefit Canadians.

Anyone in parliament can propose alternatives, the ruling party has to approve them. In a partisan arrangement, alternatives are somewhat frivolous, so you take the issues to the public so they can make the changes. Your watching that play out now.

The opposition also has to evaluate when to announce plans. Too early and the party in power can co-opt the ideas.

The time to roll out a concrete plan is the day an election is called. No sooner.

Don’t worry about the Libs catching the PCs off guard again. The plan is done, it will be unboxed the day an election is called.
 

lays it all out for you.
Yes he laid it out. After 27 minutes of mostly slamming JT at the end he says yeah I'll push this problem to the municipalities.
 
My takeaway here was your use of the word viable. Who says it's viable, you?

If you`re subjectively not happy with his proposals then that's your problem, make sure he knows that with your vote. But don't conflate your disdain for what he's saying as him saying nothing. If you want him to do MORE, then that's fine, but you act like he's said nothing.

I believe you`re being disingenuous because you don't like him, and that's sad.
But I ask again What proposals?
 
The Liberals didn’t just cause inflation, they turbocharged.

If you take out the 'just' from this sentence, then I might agree...
 
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