Why Android is better than iPhone.

FullMotoJacket said:
I had some weird WiFi issues last week as well (Wednesday-ish?). I killed WiFi in SBSettings. Didn't work. Rebooted. Seemed to solve the problem. Never had an issue again. Tried later, and all was good. Figured it was Rogers' network.
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The thing is, I prefer to use my Mac to browse, so I was only having trouble accessing this forum, typed in gtam, nothing shows up, blank page. So I used my mobile to access via 3G and I got thru right away.

In the support section, I see the forum got a new server, so something must have happened.

Still 3G
 
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short stop said:
Not to mention their stock keeps going up. Plateau? Um...not by any definition.
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Sure they have plateau'd as now they are resorting to sneaky measures to keep their revenues up.

Tell me, prior to I4S launch, why was there a Siri app previously for Iphone4 users and recently it got yanked from the app store?

Why do all the people who DID have the Siri app on their I4's, suddenly it doesn't work anymore?

Yep......... keep drinking the apple juice. Now we all know why their stocks keep going up.


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SunnY S said:
Sure they have plateau'd as now they are resorting to sneaky measures to keep their revenues up.

Tell me, prior to I4S launch, why was there a Siri app previously for Iphone4 users and recently it got yanked from the app store?

Why do all the people who DID have the Siri app on their I4's, suddenly it doesn't work anymore?

Yep......... keep drinking the apple juice. Now we all know why their stocks keep going up.


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Dude, that's not the definition of a plateau. And I'm not even going to comment on how they got there, because I don't really follow this kinda thing nor do I care. But I called simple BS on the claim that somehow they've "plateaued" or are on the verge of irrelevancy. Regardless of what people think of Apple, they're doing *something* right (and no, I haven't been offered any strange Apple-juice concoctions as of late).
 
SunnY S said:
+1.

Apple has plateau'd.

Siri was BOUGHT, not invented by apple. The iMessage is just a rip off of BBM, no innovation here. They fixed their faulty antenna. Granted, the 4S has a faster processor........isn't that the standard protocol with virtually every phone from every maker?

http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-just-got-into-the-search-business-2010-4
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2010-04-28/tech/30050270_1_siri-mobile-platforms-search-business



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Who cares if Siri was bought or if Apple invented it? I could care less who the inventor is, as long as the product works well for me, thats all that matters. Microsoft did similar things with their touch technology with there successful touch table "surface"

iMessage... its great for those with an iPhone that supports iOS5, and again, who cares if RIM invented it, or came up with the idea. It works, and works well, another bonus for the consumer.

Apple is not a company that really invents, but takes things and makes them work very well together. You obviously don't like them, and thats your perogative. I enjoy the products and the eco system. I have no issue being "tied" down to iTunes as I use it daily, hourly, and it works great on all my Macs.

Its probably been said a thousand times, but there is no right or wrong smart phone, whatever works best for you is the best phone on the market. For me its my iPhone 4. Wont be upgrading till the 5, though the improvements are nice in the 4S.
 
SunnY S said:
Tell me, prior to I4S launch, why was there a Siri app previously for Iphone4 users and recently it got yanked from the app store?
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Because Siri was its own entity until they were acquired by Apple, and because there's no better way to beta test an application than making it available to millions of users? DERP


How's your RIM stock btw? lmao
 
SunnY S said:
Sure they have plateau'd as now they are resorting to sneaky measures to keep their revenues up.

Tell me, prior to I4S launch, why was there a Siri app previously for Iphone4 users and recently it got yanked from the app store?

Why do all the people who DID have the Siri app on their I4's, suddenly it doesn't work anymore?

Yep......... keep drinking the apple juice. Now we all know why their stocks keep going up.


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Your argument would be better served if Apple hadn't BOUGHT Siri - allowing it to do whatever the **** it wants with the app - OR if apple had taken Siri and all other voice recognition apps from the app store when the 4s launched. With several other apps that provide similar function to the old Siri in the store and the fact that apple bought the tech to add functionality to a new product, your argument isn't that strong.
 
He's a RIM fanboy, his arguments are never strong. Dude is clinging to a sinking ship :lol:
 
The way they implemented Siri was a little sneaky but makes good business sense. There is a hack available for adding Siri to an iPhone 4 but because it's all server based tech (Siri doesn't work without an internet connection) servers don't recognise iphone 4s to implement the tech.

As for voice recognition, I've had that on my Nexus S since day 1. Yes, there are some problems with it, eg. I used to be able to set a timer by saying "set timer for x minutes" and that doesn't work well now for some reason, but sending text messages and e-mails is fine with voice commands and avoids typing. You can also play music in certain aps by using voice commands. Web searching always works too with voice.
 
The difference is that Siri is more fluid whereas other voice controls are very rigid in the way they're built. You can only say commands a certain way, so you have to learn how to use the system whereas Apple's implementation learns how to work with you instead. You can tell it how to do something in 10 different (and natural) ways. Siri also learns as you go along... it will learn who your family members are, what your addresses are, who your friends are, etc etc.

As usual, Apple knows how to better implement methods and technologies into their products.
 
Sure, that's definitely better. I still think both phones are lacking as I want to see this feature as an offline option for when you don't want to use data or when you don't need to (for voice calls or text messages, contact searches etc).
 
I dont have hands-on with either system... can any part of it be used offline or is it entirely online? Seems kind of stupid if you tell it to text someone that it has to be online for that...

One major gripe for us Canadians is that Siri isn't entirely international yet so lots of features won't work locally. They said they're working hard on broadening its range for 2012, but still something to keep in mind. I don't think it'll give you local directions, for instance.
 
mmmnaked said:
I dont have hands-on with either system... can any part of it be used offline or is it entirely online? Seems kind of stupid if you tell it to text someone that it has to be online for that...

One major gripe for us Canadians is that Siri isn't entirely international yet so lots of features won't work locally. They said they're working hard on broadening its range for 2012, but still something to keep in mind. I don't think it'll give you local directions, for instance.
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That is correct. It doesn't have the ability to give directions, list nearby locations, etc for Canada. I'm sure it's coming soon, but in the meantime it seems to be a PITA. So far I've been impressing my co-workers by asking Siri for the the best Sushi locations in Buffalo.
 
fastar1 said:
Interesting. Also great if Apple wants to know every last thing people use their iphones for.
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When my ex got her 3g, they wanted to know where she live, her email, phone # and even the colour of her panties at the exact time; just for verification
 
yah, Apple is the only one that tracked you with the GPS. Microsoft and Google would never do such a thing...

Not that it makes it right for Apple to do. Siri, will be the future I believe. Interacting with a device or even a computer in a way that is natural to how you talk, not some way of talking you need to learn is a big leap forward in my opinion. Its still beta, so it will be interesting to see where it goes in the future and to see where Microsoft and Google go with it as well, as they are sure to follow and try and push it further.

All in all, its better for us, the consumer.
 
FullMotoJacket said:
It's over.

http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2011/10/apple-and-android-the-slow-pall-bearers-to-rims-eventual-demise.ars?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+arstechnica%2Findex+(Ars+Technica+-+Featured+Content)&utm_content=My+Yahoo
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I dont think I would say its over just yet. As far as I know RIM still has money in the bank and no debt, thats always a good position to be in.

They are not doing good and the future does not look bright as it stands right now though.
 
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