Why Android is better than iPhone.

so let's keep changing the criteria by which you will be proven wrong? is that how it works? lol. sad.

and i'm not even delving into the fact that the retina display is not a big deal anyways, since it isn't even the highest res phone being produced:

http://www.taranfx.com/better-than-retina-display

Are you really comparing the retina display which was out to the buying public in summer 2010 to a display that isn't even available and has no release date or isn't incorporated into any phone yet? Your really grasping here. The retina display is still the highest resolution available on a phone. Things you can't buy yet or that are in development take nothing away from the quality of the Retina display. Your letting your Apple hate blind you one again. Admit it just as all tech experts have... the Retina display is a damn fine screen.

or the even larger debate about whether samsung's oled displays are already superior:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/iphone-4-retina-display-vs-galaxy-s-super-amoled-fight/

i hope little stevie sticks to his guns on ips and continues to be stubborn about oled, because in short order he's going to be left way, way behind.

Samsungs SAMOLED isn't better the debate is pretty simple. SAMOLED has a higher colour saturation but the Retina has a higher definition and a crisper looking image. It comes down to personal preference so there really isn't much of a debate. I personally dislike the SAMOLED's pixel shape when held close to view small text (a reality on a phone.). The Retina has much crisper text. Having used both for a while I can say that without any bias. Have you used both devices? Have you compared them side by side yourself?

Apple won't be left behind... The iphone 5 will hit markets this coming summer and will be another stunner as the iphone 4 was. I find it amazing that Apple can release one device per year and still manage to beat the competition in many respects when the competition comes out with a new phone per month. That is some forward thinking on Apples part.
 
By the way, HPAlm called, they want their Webos operating system back, including the "gestures" and universal search features.

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RIM is revealing how much they don't 'get it'. They aren't going to release the Playbook till March which is a massive mistake as the ipad2 will be released in April and by then there will be a glutton of honeycomb based Android tablets out there. Missing the christmas season for RIM will be their downfall as people will adopt other ecosystems (IOS or ANDROID) over christmas and will be more likely to purchase the next generation of those devices as they are used to it then switch to the playbook.

sure RIM will have its enterprise clients but you cannot gain market share without growing your client base. Even then many people are already buying Android tablets or ipads for work (some works are subsidizing them) so buying a new tablet in a few months won't be on their list.

The Playbook has some impressive specs but they are only impressive now and a month ago. By the time it hits shelves those specs will be common among all tablets. Sorry RIM you will just fade into the background again just like the torch was a piece of junk compared to current spec'd phones. Low res screen, awkward OS etc. Even RIM is dropping the Torch and their OS6 (still rolling out the old BB devices) to concentrate on tablets and then they plan to adopt the tablet OS after a few revisions and generations back into a smartphone. The rep for RIM at the D : Dive into digital event didn't even have an answer as to when RIM would compete again with current smart phones on the market.
 
Are you really comparing the retina display which was out to the buying public in summer 2010 to a display that isn't even available and has no release date or isn't incorporated into any phone yet? Your really grasping here. The retina display is still the highest resolution available on a phone. Things you can't buy yet or that are in development take nothing away from the quality of the Retina display. Your letting your Apple hate blind you one again. Admit it just as all tech experts have... the Retina display is a damn fine screen.



Samsungs SAMOLED isn't better the debate is pretty simple. SAMOLED has a higher colour saturation but the Retina has a higher definition and a crisper looking image. It comes down to personal preference so there really isn't much of a debate. I personally dislike the SAMOLED's pixel shape when held close to view small text (a reality on a phone.). The Retina has much crisper text. Having used both for a while I can say that without any bias. Have you used both devices? Have you compared them side by side yourself?

Apple won't be left behind... The iphone 5 will hit markets this coming summer and will be another stunner as the iphone 4 was. I find it amazing that Apple can release one device per year and still manage to beat the competition in many respects when the competition comes out with a new phone per month. That is some forward thinking on Apples part.

i have held both, side by side, and as with most users, if i hold them at the normal distance of about a foot or so from my face, i cannot tell a difference in terms of definition. if i were to pull them within 2-4 inches, yes. but who the heck regularly does that? totally unrealistic. and on many other measures (as you mentioned) and battery life, the samoled has the lg-apple beat.

is the retina display great? sure. is it the best? for real world use, i say no, and so do a lot of others.

as for the whole "available in summer 2010" palaver, this goes back to the whole nailing-jello-to-a-wall comment i made a while back. the question wasn't if these displays were available in toronto, but if they existed and were being used. they are. likewise, sharp is already using their screens on non-apple product. if we want to move on to a different discussion, let's finish with what was put on the table first.

when you attempt to redefine the basis of comparison, after someone has put forward a statement, it doesn't make the original statement incorrect. this is what you and others try to do repeatedly and makes no logical sense.
 
8 Ways to Fix Google Android

7. Built-in screen shots

We’re a little biased because we frequently find ourselves taking screenshots of our smartphone devices for the stories we write. But we’re baffled as to why we have to root our Android phone in order to take screenshots. Apple’s iOS allows you to quickly and easily capture any screen on your phone by pressing the Home and Sleep button. Why not you, Google?

Non issue - Back + home button in Froyo 2.2 screen captures on my Samsung Galaxy S, non-rooted.
 
Wow in 2007 BMW beat out a 5 year old VFR that's amazing.


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Keep up the blasting....... I just love it. :D




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as for the whole "available in summer 2010" palaver, this goes back to the whole nailing-jello-to-a-wall comment i made a while back. the question wasn't if these displays were available in toronto, but if they existed and were being used. they are. likewise, sharp is already using their screens on non-apple product.

And yet your comparison with a product no one here will ever touch unless they make a trip to Asia, and may make it to the domestic (Canadian) market late 2011-2012 is somehow legitimate? That's hilarious and one of the wildest stretches made to date in this thread. I remind you, the original post is "Why Android is better than iPhone". Not "Android has a feature that is better than iPhone, but outside of some watermarked pictures on Engadget, you'll never see it here till after iPhone 6 has been released".
 
i have held both, side by side, and as with most users, if i hold them at the normal distance of about a foot or so from my face, i cannot tell a difference in terms of definition. if i were to pull them within 2-4 inches, yes. but who the heck regularly does that? totally unrealistic. and on many other measures (as you mentioned) and battery life, the samoled has the lg-apple beat.

is the retina display great? sure. is it the best? for real world use, i say no, and so do a lot of others.

I don't view content from a foot away. Maybe I need glasses but on a 4" or smaller screen viewing movies, webpages, emails and texts at over a foot away is too far. Not to mention as most people do when you zoom into text and images the retina display has a far better picture quality. Maybe on a tablet a foot or more away won't make a difference but on a phone most people I see on the subway hold it closer than that.

Sure the SAMOLED uses less juice but the iphone 4 has a longer lasting battery than the Galaxy S. So if we want to talk about battery life I wouldn't bring it up in Samsung's defence.

as for the whole "available in summer 2010" palaver, this goes back to the whole nailing-jello-to-a-wall comment i made a while back. the question wasn't if these displays were available in toronto, but if they existed and were being used. they are. likewise, sharp is already using their screens on non-apple product. if we want to move on to a different discussion, let's finish with what was put on the table first.

when you attempt to redefine the basis of comparison, after someone has put forward a statement, it doesn't make the original statement incorrect. this is what you and others try to do repeatedly and makes no logical sense.

Now you are just getting silly. I thought this discussion was on a North American message board about products that are currently available to the public here. Hell according to the link you posted "The panel will be announced on November 9 in Munich, Germany and to be exhibited in February, next year." You are saying that the it beats the Retina display when its not even in a phone yet? The display is being exhibited its not in a full functioning device as far as I can find on the internet. Please give me the phone model, Where you can buy it (whatever country) and what the cost is? They may be using the display in some other non apple products but I don't see a phone model with this product. Every article I read says its coming but not out yet.

The reason I brought up that the Retina came out in Summer of 2010 was that it is about 6 months old and with new competing devices being put out every single month and none of the phones available have a better screen with the closest being Samsung and its debatable. You like it better I however don't and many people agree with both sides. Doesn't sound 'Better' at all if anything its even but that is subjective. Regardless the SAMOLED doesn't have the pixel count of the Retina.

You keep acting like some highbrow debater chastising other peoples arguments and saying they are changing the argument when you yourself are doing just that and have time and time again. Wouldn't bringing up screens that don't yet exist in a cell phone be doing just that? think about it before you get back on your high horse.

So in a month or two when the specs for the iphone 5 display come out can I compare that to current available tech also? at least the iphone 5 will land on these shores. The Casio display probably will not. Hell Apple is commissioning new factories built over seas just to design and build the iphone 5 display and you don't think it will be just as impressive as the Retina display was in the summer of 2010?

I'm far from an apple Fanboi. I can take logic and reason and I can admit faults with apple products but your blind hate here is clouding your judgement and leading to week arguments. As Duster pointed out maybe you should step back from this thread and gain a little perspective?
 
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31 pages of expert opinions and I'm willing to bet NONE of you work for any of the companies involved.
 
31 pages of expert opinions and I'm willing to bet NONE of you work for any of the companies involved.

What does that have to do with anything? We are just passionate users of technology that is all.
I gather because of all your posts defending Harley products that you work for Harley?
 
What does that have to do with anything? We are just passionate users of technology that is all.

Some of you SHOULD be working for the companies is what I'm saying. If you're that passionate about something and have such an in-depth knowledge of it, why not make a living at it? My wife works for RIM (just using this as an example, not saying it is the superior product, so don't anyone be getting their panties in a knot) and they are always on the lookout for people who know their stuff.
 
Some of you SHOULD be working for the companies is what I'm saying. If you're that passionate about something and have such an in-depth knowledge of it, why not make a living at it? My wife works for RIM (just using this as an example, not saying it is the superior product, so don't anyone be getting their panties in a knot) and they are always on the lookout for people who know their stuff.

Ok I see where your coming from. Unfortunately a lot of smarter people work for these companies and I already make more than a sales person. Most of this stuff is fairly common knowledge stuff.

Tell your wife that RIM needs to stop letting Mike Lizardis (sp) speak at conference events and hire a god hype man like the other companies have. Someone that can articulate a vision.
 
Tell your wife that RIM needs to stop letting Mike Lizardis (sp) speak at conference events and hire a god hype man like the other companies have. Someone that can articulate a vision.

Wife says "No comment". :D
 
And yet your comparison with a product no one here will ever touch unless they make a trip to Asia, and may make it to the domestic (Canadian) market late 2011-2012 is somehow legitimate? That's hilarious and one of the wildest stretches made to date in this thread. I remind you, the original post is "Why Android is better than iPhone". Not "Android has a feature that is better than iPhone, but outside of some watermarked pictures on Engadget, you'll never see it here till after iPhone 6 has been released".

perhaps if the thread had remained exclusively to the topic, but it hasn't, and it certainly wasn't just me that took it there.

read the post that i was responding to--it did not make any android-specific query. it was a broad, over-statement, as is commonplace. i have pointed out again and again how crass overstatements are erroneous, so frankly, my post was very germane.

apple fanbois have no sense of proportion apparently, and simply refuse to admit anything less than complete and utter superiority of apple products, and if they don't have the common sense to make nuanced comments, then they INVITE any and all comments, any exceptions to their generalizations.

so, whose fault it that?
 
I don't view content from a foot away. Maybe I need glasses but on a 4" or smaller screen viewing movies, webpages, emails and texts at over a foot away is too far. Not to mention as most people do when you zoom into text and images the retina display has a far better picture quality. Maybe on a tablet a foot or more away won't make a difference but on a phone most people I see on the subway hold it closer than that.

Sure the SAMOLED uses less juice but the iphone 4 has a longer lasting battery than the Galaxy S. So if we want to talk about battery life I wouldn't bring it up in Samsung's defence.

i dunno, but in about 95% of applications, i am most definitely not holding it much closer than 12" away. btw, when you zoom in, it doesn't reflect on the display's output resolution--it remains the same--it only shows you the original resolution of the source. i only noticed a real difference between the two at about >4". . .definitely don't hold it that close.

also, the battery life comment is not a reflection of the display's ability--only on the capacity of the battery. i thought we were talking about the display? the fact that the samoled uses significantly less energy tells us that the future of cellphone displays is already here.


Now you are just getting silly. I thought this discussion was on a North American message board about products that are currently available to the public here. Hell according to the link you posted "The panel will be announced on November 9 in Munich, Germany and to be exhibited in February, next year." You are saying that the it beats the Retina display when its not even in a phone yet? The display is being exhibited its not in a full functioning device as far as I can find on the internet. Please give me the phone model, Where you can buy it (whatever country) and what the cost is? They may be using the display in some other non apple products but I don't see a phone model with this product. Every article I read says its coming but not out yet.

The reason I brought up that the Retina came out in Summer of 2010 was that it is about 6 months old and with new competing devices being put out every single month and none of the phones available have a better screen with the closest being Samsung and its debatable. You like it better I however don't and many people agree with both sides. Doesn't sound 'Better' at all if anything its even but that is subjective. Regardless the SAMOLED doesn't have the pixel count of the Retina.

You keep acting like some highbrow debater chastising other peoples arguments and saying they are changing the argument when you yourself are doing just that and have time and time again. Wouldn't bringing up screens that don't yet exist in a cell phone be doing just that? think about it before you get back on your high horse.

So in a month or two when the specs for the iphone 5 display come out can I compare that to current available tech also? at least the iphone 5 will land on these shores. The Casio display probably will not. Hell Apple is commissioning new factories built over seas just to design and build the iphone 5 display and you don't think it will be just as impressive as the Retina display was in the summer of 2010?

I'm far from an apple Fanboi. I can take logic and reason and I can admit faults with apple products but your blind hate here is clouding your judgement and leading to week arguments. As Duster pointed out maybe you should step back from this thread and gain a little perspective?

if you were following the dialogue, it went something like this:

i wrote: apple build and component quality is not going to be better than the products that the companies that make the components build for themselves, and the same company that puts the components together, aka builds iphones/ipods (foxconn), builds a crapload of other products for other companies.

they wrote: no, they don't.

i wrote: here's who is building apple's a4 processor, here's who is building their 'retina displays', and here's what sharp is doing. furthermore, retina display is not a big deal, ergo iphone is not superior, because there are better displays, including arguably the galaxy's.

full of 'blind hate'??? i have repeatedly written that apple products are good. apparently unless i admit they are the best ever and ever, i'm wrong.
 
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this is my bike, am i considered a fan.
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Cmon tell me more about how current model BMWs barely inch out 5 year old Honda designs please its great entertainment listening to you justify your horrible purchases lol

*yawn*

On to the next thread.

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Samsung pulls Froyo update for Bell's Vibrant after reports of fried internal storage
By Chris Ziegler posted Dec 18th 2010 7:47PM

We have no idea why Samsung's having such a hard time delivering its overdue promised Froyo upgrades worldwide for the Galaxy S series, but it's not looking any easier for them this weekend: the only Canadian Galaxy S to get upgraded so far, Bell's Vibrant, has just had its update pulled. Seems a healthy number of users attempting the upgrade using Sammy's Kies desktop software ended up with inaccessible internal storage, which sucks for a variety of obvious reasons -- and that would be the apparent reason for the removal of the update.
Here's the official statement:
"There have been intermittent issues reported during the firmware upgrade process with Kies for the Samsung Galaxy S i9000M series of phones. Samsung's development team is currently aware of this issue and working towards a solution. Accordingly, The firmware update feature, which affects the ability to upgrade to Android 2.2, is temporarily disabled until a solution is released. We apologize for the inconvenience."

Maybe we can just go straight to Gingerbread or Honeycomb at this point?
 
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