Why Android is better than iPhone.

Something I have learned is that if you are too could at what you do you will be stuck doing it and never get ahead. As the old saying goes, "don't make yourself irreplaceable because you will never get anywhere".

What he's good at is VISION, the design just stems from that. Vision is exactly what Apple lost when SJ died.
 
Played with a BB10 device yesterday, seems cool. Doubt it's going to be enough to bring RIM back to the forefront but at least it will be a competitive product.

Incidentally the phone looked identical to an iPhone5, forgot to ask if it's final hardware though.

It's been two years since I posted in this thread. I'm STILL using an old Nokia flip phone with a taped-together battery cover. That phone has been through hell and keeps right on going. But ... there's starting to be evidence that the battery might be on the way out.

Worth holding out for BB10? Or get something else?

Background: NOT a tech geek. I use it as a telephone. Mostly business use. I do not want to have to "jailbreak", I do not want to have to search for the perfect app, it just has to WORK. Having a proper calendar, access to email, etc would be good. Can't be bothered with games. If it plays music or movies or whatever, that's bonus. I have a real laptop (same one I'm typing on right now) to do the real computing applications. I have a real camera with a proper lens for taking pictures, which I have to do for work. I'm right up Blackberry's target market and RIM is one of our customers ... except the last Blackberry that I had (4 - 5 years ago) wasn't a very good GPS, and wasn't a very good email device, and the internet browser was essentially unusable. I will take a QWERTY keyboard over typing on a phone pad any day of the week.

Suggestions?
 
It's been two years since I posted in this thread. I'm STILL using an old Nokia flip phone with a taped-together battery cover. That phone has been through hell and keeps right on going. But ... there's starting to be evidence that the battery might be on the way out.

Worth holding out for BB10? Or get something else?

Background: NOT a tech geek. I use it as a telephone. Mostly business use. I do not want to have to "jailbreak", I do not want to have to search for the perfect app, it just has to WORK. Having a proper calendar, access to email, etc would be good. Can't be bothered with games. If it plays music or movies or whatever, that's bonus. I have a real laptop (same one I'm typing on right now) to do the real computing applications. I have a real camera with a proper lens for taking pictures, which I have to do for work. I'm right up Blackberry's target market and RIM is one of our customers ... except the last Blackberry that I had (4 - 5 years ago) wasn't a very good GPS, and wasn't a very good email device, and the internet browser was essentially unusable. I will take a QWERTY keyboard over typing on a phone pad any day of the week.

Suggestions?

Go for the Blackberry. Otherwise get a low end android device. Iphone isn't a good choice although it's very simple for you to use.

BB with a qwerty keyboard will give you good access to e-mails. BB10 is suppose to be very user friendly.
 
Go for the Blackberry. Otherwise get a low end android device. Iphone isn't a good choice although it's very simple for you to use.

BB with a qwerty keyboard will give you good access to e-mails. BB10 is suppose to be very user friendly.

If you prefer keyboard, go for the newer blackberry that will come out q1 of 2013.

If you can't wait, go android. You wont have to SEARCH for the perfect app, Poser started a thread with what we believe to be the 'best apps' for anyone getting an Android phone.
Obviously, not all of them are required, but it will save you lots of time/review reading and what not :)

I've had a Galaxy Nexus almost a year now and i don't regret it one minute. Since it's going on sale everywhere, i have more and more friends who are getting the same phone (my g/f got it for 0$ on windtab)
 
Sorry, if you like to hold on to a device for as long as possible, Apple is the way to go. Avoid Androids. Their hardware doesn't compare for durability, and software updates are nonexistant within a few years (if not right away).

As for whether it's worth waiting for Blackberry; definitely. I'm in the same situation with a battery dying on an old iPhone and I won't replace it with a 5 (screen too small). Hoping BB comes out with something decent, but if not Windows Phone 8 (Nokia 920) will do, or Android if I have to.

Oh yeah, if you're gonna get a phone for the long-term, make sure it has LTE and bluetooth 4.0. NFC is probably also a good idea, though it doesn't sound like you're likely the type to make payments or open doors with your phone in the near future.
 
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except the last Blackberry that I had (4 - 5 years ago) wasn't a very good GPS, and wasn't a very good email device, and the internet browser was essentially unusable. I will take a QWERTY keyboard over typing on a phone pad any day of the week.

Suggestions?

I hear where you are coming from with the older BBs. However, the current BB7 devices, specifically the 9900 series addresses all those problems. It has a long lasting and replaceable battery which is what power users really need, excellent voice quality, secure email, good calendar feature, NFC, and the browser and gps works fine.

RIM owns the Qwerty market. Period.

Although it sounds like the current BB7 will suit your needs, if you can wait, BB10 is your phone. Here is a crash course on what BB10 will bring to the table....

http://crackberry.com/crash-course-things-you-need-know-about-upcoming-blackberry-10-operating-system


Owise, go Nexus 4 for the full Google Android experience and always the latest Google release software without the silly carrier bloatware. Its great bang for the buck and is a very capable phone with top drawer specs except for LTE.
 
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Sorry, if you like to hold on to a device for as long as possible, Apple is the way to go. Avoid Androids. Their hardware doesn't compare for durability, and software updates are nonexistant within a few years (if not right away).

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Saying that Android hardware doesn't compare for durability is a stretch.

The software thing is the only reason why I'd stick to a true Google based Nexus series Android. You always get the newest and latest and greatest software right from Google as soon as its released, instead of being at the mercy of the carriers waiting for their approval 5 years later.

There are more Google Nexus series phones coming from Sony, HTC and I believe others. The LG Nexus 4 is just the beginning.


Edit : http://bgr.com/2012/08/21/google-nexus-samsung-lg-sony-rumor/

January CES show will be telling as this is typically when the latest devices are announced.
 
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I say iPhone, the ease of use is amazing. They really are incredibly simple devices to use and get a lot out of. It's amazing that I can give my three year old niece an iOS device and she knows how to use it. Despite what the Android guys say, the iPhone is great for the tasks that you need. Email, web browsing, and phone use, the iPhone just plain works, and works well.

Android has potential, but software updates take forever or don't come at all for non Nexus phones. You don't seem like the type to try custom ROMs. Unless you find a Nexus phone that you like, I'd ignore the Android phones.

BB10 has potential, from what I've seen doesn't seem like it's going to leapfrog the current iOS and Android OS' but merely compete. The current Blackberry products are already a couple years outdated and will be obsolete in a couple months when BB10 comes out as they will not be updatable. There's a reason why soooooooo many BB diehards have jumped ship to Android or iOS. In fact, outside of a guy that works for RIM, I don't know a single person still using a Blackberry. Where the large majority used to use them.

As for whether it's worth waiting for Blackberry; definitely. I'm in the same situation with a battery dying on an old iPhone and I won't replace it with a 5 (screen too small).

The BB10 device I played with had a screen size identical to an iPhone, somewhere around 3.5-4". The whole phone looked almost identical to an iPhone5 too. Don't know if the design is final, but seems to be
 
The BB10 device I played with had a screen size identical to an iPhone, somewhere around 3.5-4". The whole phone looked almost identical to an iPhone5 too. Don't know if the design is final, but seems to be

There is no way the BB10 L-series will have a screen smaller than 4". The device you might have played with was a Dev device released to developers so that they could begin building apps for the bb10. Rim made it clear, that the device and the OS in developers hands was scaled down and was in unfinished state, so unless you are Heins or are in upper level RIM management, its likely you haven't played with the finished polished product, or handled the actual L series BB10 device.

You'll notice that the RIM device lacks a physical home button which is a smart design as it makes heavy use of bezel gestures to make your way around the OS and for efficient multitasking, the iPone doesn't make use of system wide multi touch gestures so the homescreen button has to remain there until Apple either changes how multitasking is done or fully enables multitouch support.


BB10 L series next to Ipone5

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I will take a QWERTY keyboard over typing on a phone pad any day of the week.

Suggestions?

You need to overcome your fear of getting used to amazing technology in the current touchscreen keyboards with predictive texting and swipe(with added dictionaries, that remembers what you've typed...and you can delete words too).

Another good thing is voice input, no need to type....mic icon is right next to space button.
Apple and Google made good progression in understanding most human voices to the T.

If you are ready, we can help you to get a SMARTPHONE??
The bigger screens mean you don't have to squint to look at the screen, so i would recommend the Samsung Galaxy Note 2.

Google Now can be productive for you.


Android 4.2 jelly bean keyboard review(Galaxy Note 2)
[video=youtube_share;YdawKsRs-_w]http://youtu.be/YdawKsRs-_w[/video]
 
Google Now

[video=youtube_share;TPw4ZJGy4xk]http://youtu.be/TPw4ZJGy4xk[/video]
 
Saying that Android hardware doesn't compare for durability is a stretch.


Hey sonny, I found this thing just lying around: :laughing3: you obviously lost it somewhere.

Now run along and play like a good little boy. Try and be more careful with it next time.
 
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There has been a bit of talk about Android devices not having a physical home button, and the need is no longer there thanks to gestures. One thing I like about the iPhone and Siri is the easy way to access it without looking at the phone. Physical button is easily felt and touched to activate Siri. What does Android do in this situation with phones that do not have a home button? How would you activate the voice assistant (not sure of the Android name for it) with the screen off?
 
There has been a bit of talk about Android devices not having a physical home button, and the need is no longer there thanks to gestures. One thing I like about the iPhone and Siri is the easy way to access it without looking at the phone. Physical button is easily felt and touched to activate Siri. What does Android do in this situation with phones that do not have a home button? How would you activate the voice assistant (not sure of the Android name for it) with the screen off?

In addition to that valid point, a physical button makes it that much easier to orientate which way is up on the phone and to turn it on without having to look at it. Personally, I'd rather a home button than no button. Not exactly the end of the world though
 
There has been a bit of talk about Android devices not having a physical home button, and the need is no longer there thanks to gestures. One thing I like about the iPhone and Siri is the easy way to access it without looking at the phone. Physical button is easily felt and touched to activate Siri. What does Android do in this situation with phones that do not have a home button? How would you activate the voice assistant (not sure of the Android name for it) with the screen off?
So you can activate SIRI when your phone is locked/screen off?
Didn't know that.

Basically for Android once you get on lockscreen you swipe up and it takes you to Google Now.
There is haptic feedback meaning you dont really need to look.
So from your phone screen off, you press power button on the side, slide up (which opens Google Now), and then just say out loud the keyword "GOOGLE" and it activates the voice assistant.
 
In addition to that valid point, a physical button makes it that much easier to orientate which way is up on the phone and to turn it on without having to look at it. Personally, I'd rather a home button than no button. Not exactly the end of the world though

Lmfao, you need a button so you know where the top of your phone is hahaha, enough Said.

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So you can activate SIRI when your phone is locked/screen off?
Didn't know that.

Basically for Android once you get on lockscreen you swipe up and it takes you to Google Now.
There is haptic feedback meaning you dont really need to look.
So from your phone screen off, you press power button on the side, slide up (which opens Google Now), and then just say out loud the keyword "GOOGLE" and it activates the voice assistant.

Yes, you can hold the "home" button down for a second or 2 and Siri pops up. It is somewhat limited to not give access to contacts and email when your phone is locked.

Based on how you described, seems Googles option is not as simple to access, but far from terrible like needing to launch an app to use it. I like the physical button for this.
 
Yes, you can hold the "home" button down for a second or 2 and Siri pops up. It is somewhat limited to not give access to contacts and email when your phone is locked.

Based on how you described, seems Googles option is not as simple to access, but far from terrible like needing to launch an app to use it. I like the physical button for this.
Yes and no...

Basically as soon as you press power and swipe up, you have your "assistant" screen with you most often need queries (the sample cards)
so whether it be traffic, next appt and when you have to leave to be on time (incl traffic),, stocks, and ALLL sorts of things.

Thennnn if you need something more, you just say google and say your command / ask question.

Basically takes 1 second to access :)
Somewhat like your 'photo' button on your lockscreen
 
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