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Who owns who??- Tool wise

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For those that might be interested, here is a quick guide to the different tools brands out there and their ownership structure.
It gives you a perspective on which brand is owned by which of its bigger brothers and maybe explain why certain tools are so similar in design and so different in pricing.

Not really motorcycle tool related but more of general hand tools and power tools.
I got this idea while posting in the torque wrench thread but I didn't want to side rail that thread.

The article is about 3 years old but fairly accurate and from my knowledge not a whole lot has changed.

Tool Brands: Who Owns What? A Guide to Corporate Affiliations

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Biggest way to increase market share and get rid of a competitor, buy them . You’ll notice segments are often aligned , electrical tool , plumbing tools . It’s a very competitive business , brand loyalty is huge .


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Yes brand loyalty is huge.
I think it is much bigger in the USA than here in Canada.
They also love their "Made in USA" stuff.
 
I thought HD had its own branded tools that were required to work on the bikes. Lol
 
Thanks for this! I keep waiting for my RIGID branded stuff to die to I can swap to another brand (DeWalt as dad has everything from them) but after a decade not a single thing has broken. This includes batteries and tools.
 
At one time , branded tools with Ford , Chev, HD , Massey Furgeson ect came with new machinery in the toolkit . Highly collectible stuff .
Brand loyalty on job sites is massive here in Canada , hardest part of tool sales is “switching” a customer. It’s part status and part battery comparability , if your a company with 100 cordless drills the last thing you need are 9 kinds of batteries.


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crankcall said:
At one time , branded tools with Ford , Chev, HD , Massey Furgeson ect came with new machinery in the toolkit . Highly collectible stuff .
Brand loyalty on job sites is massive here in Canada , hardest part of tool sales is “switching” a customer. It’s part status and part battery comparability , if your a company with 100 cordless drills the last thing you need are 9 kinds of batteries.


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This is the same in manufacturing.
On the milling side of things, most manufacturers have gone to proprietary pockets for the inserts. You are pretty much locked in to one manufacturer as changing tooling would require huge effort and expense and having multiple manufactures means tons of duplicate inserts that you have to buy and track.
 
mimico_polak said:
Thanks for this! I keep waiting for my RIGID branded stuff to die to I can swap to another brand (DeWalt as dad has everything from them) but after a decade not a single thing has broken. This includes batteries and tools.
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Did you not register them for the RIDGID lifetime warranty?
Why would you switch?
 
mimico_polak said:
Thanks for this! I keep waiting for my RIGID branded stuff to die to I can swap to another brand (DeWalt as dad has everything from them) but after a decade not a single thing has broken. This includes batteries and tools.
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The Rigid stuff is really good for the price you pay.
A lot of tools last as long as they do because they are not used to their full potential nor abused.

Also a lot of it is the perception that one tool brand is better then another. The die hard yellow (DeWalt) fan club will not touch a tool from the red team (Milwaukee) and will argue that DeWalt is superior. Just like a red fan club will not touch a tool from the green/teal club (Makita) etc etc.

Here in Canada and USA the Ryobi brand is viewed as toys and not tools, while in Australia that is the go to brand for professional tools. The other brands have been getting some more traction there in the past several years.

Ryobi does have the largest variety of battery tools for their ONE+ battery platform. Some are cheesy but actually very practical.

BTW, There are battery adapters to use other brands batteries on your tools. DeWalt batteries on Milwaukee tools etc.
 
nhoj said:
Did you not register them for the RIDGID lifetime warranty?
Why would you switch?
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I did not originally because I didn’t know when I got the first set as a gift. I continued expanding it with used tools for half price of new.

I’m not going to swap anything until the batteries start to die off. Those I registered though when I went to the 4A capacity over the 2A.
 
oioioi said:
The Rigid stuff is really good for the price you pay.
A lot of tools last as long as they do because they are not used to their full potential nor abused.

Also a lot of it is the perception that one tool brand is better then another. The die hard yellow (DeWalt) fan club will not touch a tool from the red team (Milwaukee) and will argue that DeWalt is superior. Just like a red fan club will not touch a tool from the green/teal club (Makita) etc etc.

Here in Canada and USA the Ryobi brand is viewed as toys and not tools, while in Australia that is the go to brand for professional tools. The other brands have been getting some more traction there in the past several years.

Ryobi does have the largest variety of battery tools for their ONE+ battery platform. Some are cheesy but actually very practical.

BTW, There are battery adapters to use other brands batteries on your tools. DeWalt batteries on Milwaukee tools etc.
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For cordless I used to be yellow. Lost too many gearboxes and switched to red. Never looked back. A sprinkling of blue, green and yellow for various special purpose tools (or infrequently used tools where tti wants double for red over green for functionally very similar tools). Plug in tools are mostly blue (they make tool form factors that work really well for me and are often ignored by competitors).
 
oioioi said:
I thought HD had its own branded tools that were required to work on the bikes. Lol
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They have a lot of specailized tools (thank goodness for Amazon), some just make it easy to do things, others are necessary for the work. And they also seem to use every fastner end type, torx, hex etc. pain in azz.
 
Full disclosure: I sometimes do tool evaluation and testing for a global tool company ,( made in China) and Taiwan ) , NDA on the brand , you can get amazing tools and turds in every brand .
In cordless I pick a tool that fits my hand , has sensible ergos and switches that you can operate with no fatigue . If you a siding installer and your going to hold a screw gun for 6 hrs a day , better fit your hand regardless of Color.
Cordless will own jobs sites sooner than later , cords are a trip hazard, portable is everything , and the weight of 18v is where 9v was 15 yrs ago . Battery tech gets better every year , maybe faster.


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DownUnder said:
I despise black and decker like you wouldn't belive. Every brand they buy, they water down the quality.
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B & D would make a 3/8" drill for $39.00 and another for $390.00 with multiple steps in between. You never knew what $39.00 parts were going into your compromised $250.00 drill. The pro names tend to have one standard.
 
crankcall said:
Full disclosure: I sometimes do tool evaluation and testing for a global tool company ,( made in China) and Taiwan ) , NDA on the brand , you can get amazing tools and turds in every brand .
In cordless I pick a tool that fits my hand , has sensible ergos and switches that you can operate with no fatigue . If you a siding installer and your going to hold a screw gun for 6 hrs a day , better fit your hand regardless of Color.
Cordless will own jobs sites sooner than later , cords are a trip hazard, portable is everything , and the weight of 18v is where 9v was 15 yrs ago . Battery tech gets better every year , maybe faster.


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I only use corded circular saw now when I need a larger blade. I gave away my 7 1/4" plug in saw as I hadn't used it for years. I'd be happy with a cordless mitre saw but it doesn't get moved around enough for me to pay the huge premium.
 
nobbie48 said:
B & D would make a 3/8" drill for $39.00 and another for $390.00 with multiple steps in between. You never knew what $39.00 parts were going into your compromised $250.00 drill. The pro names tend to have one standard.
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Even really expensive tools like festool have some design turds inside. Obviously the bean counters wanted apple level profit margins. They didn't try to make the best they could, there is some clear price-point stuff inside but they pretend their ^(&*^ doesn't stink.
 
crankcall said:
At one time , branded tools with Ford , Chev, HD , Massey Furgeson ect came with new machinery in the toolkit . Highly collectible stuff .
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I've been picking these out of the scrap bin at the ReStore for a while now. Ford, Austin and BSA so far. The little Honda toolkit pliers show up quite often too.
 
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