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Where is Doug Ford?

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justride

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toronto.ctvnews.ca

'I would be ashamed': MPPs call out Ford, Jones for not testifying at Emergencies Act inquiry

Ontario Premier Doug Ford has not shown up for question period at the legislature today after it emerged that he's challenging a summons to testify at the Emergencies Act inquiry in Ottawa.
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www.thestar.com

Justin Trudeau accused Doug Ford of ‘hiding’ during convoy protest, documents show

The revelation adds to a growing picture emerging from a public inquiry of tensions between different authorities and levels of government as they tried to respond to the protests against COVID-19 health measures last winter.
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You could also add a link to articles asking where he was yesterday when government reconvened and he didn't show.

I suspect the emergency act stonewall will be related to $1B the feds just threw at Pickering Nuclear. JT's paid more for less before.
 
Hiding at the cottage.

He didn't want to put in any comment for the convoy either way so as not to alienate either group (pro or against) IMO. This is just him trying to dodge by blaming the federal gov't...for something that's going on in his province.
 
justride said:
toronto.ctvnews.ca

'I would be ashamed': MPPs call out Ford, Jones for not testifying at Emergencies Act inquiry

Ontario Premier Doug Ford has not shown up for question period at the legislature today after it emerged that he's challenging a summons to testify at the Emergencies Act inquiry in Ottawa.
toronto.ctvnews.ca toronto.ctvnews.ca

www.thestar.com

Justin Trudeau accused Doug Ford of ‘hiding’ during convoy protest, documents show

The revelation adds to a growing picture emerging from a public inquiry of tensions between different authorities and levels of government as they tried to respond to the protests against COVID-19 health measures last winter.
www.thestar.com www.thestar.com
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Do you blame him -- why would he want to join Ottawa's sh*t-show? JT is looking to share the blame, and deflect focus away from using the emergencies act to trample democractic freedoms. The Ottawa PS, Capital Commission and Ottawa's Mayor had jurisdiction over the Convoy -- all three really messed this up. The province really has nothing in the game, they don't police Ottawa.

The Convoy chose Ottawa for a reason -- not because it's the capital, but because it's a lot softer target than Toronto. Had they come here, it would have been dealt with quickly and efficiently.

Personally, I was miffed that the convoy laid siege to part of downtown Ottawa. I feel sorry for the residents and businesses that were inconvenienced. That said, I'm not willing to lay down my civil liberties to allow martial law at the whim of a PM -- even for a peaceful protest that drags on for a few weeks.
 
Mad Mike said:
Do you blame him -- why would he want to join Ottawa's sh*t-show? JT is looking to share the blame, and deflect focus away from using the emergencies act to trample democractic freedoms. The Ottawa PS, Capital Commission and Ottawa's Mayor had jurisdiction over the Convoy -- all three really messed this up. The province really has nothing in the game, they don't police Ottawa.

The Convoy chose Ottawa for a reason -- not because it's the capital, but because it's a lot softer target than Toronto. Had they come here, it would have been dealt with quickly and efficiently.

Personally, I was miffed that the convoy laid siege to part of downtown Ottawa. I feel sorry for the residents and businesses that were inconvenienced. That said, I'm not willing to lay down my civil liberties to allow martial law at the whim of a PM -- even for a peaceful protest that drags on for a few weeks.
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Dougie is the Premier of the province - last time I looked Ottawa was still in Ontario.
He refused to send in enough OPP to help out the local cops when the Mayor was begging.
The intel that the Feds, Province and Municipality had was ignored or swept under the table for whatever reason.
The convoy tried in Toronto - twice - and Tory shut them down, not Doug.
So yes - I do blame him for making a bad situation worse. The convoy could have come to town, had their little protest and then been kicked out of Dodge but they weren't. It's on everybody, hence the commission to investigate.
Dougie also ignored the Ambassador Bridge fiasco, let's not forget that.
 
TK4 said:
Dougie is the Premier of the province - last time I looked Ottawa was still in Ontario.
He refused to send in enough OPP to help out the local cops when the Mayor was begging.
The intel that the Feds, Province and Municipality had was ignored or swept under the table for whatever reason.
The convoy tried in Toronto - twice - and Tory shut them down, not Doug.
So yes - I do blame him for making a bad situation worse. The convoy could have come to town, had their little protest and then been kicked out of Dodge but they weren't. It's on everybody, hence the commission to investigate.
Dougie also ignored the Ambassador Bridge fiasco, let's not forget that.
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First off, the mayor had his own 1400 officers, which should have been plenty to contain and control 284 vehicles and 1000 convoy campers -- had they done anything. They also had OPP available, but the OPS ****** them off by taking over parts of their jurisdictional areas without notice or following protocol. OPP Operations commander Abrhams, testified, "We couldn't read their (OPS Leadership) minds as to what their plan was because there was no plan," to the Public Order Emergency Commission.

You are correct about the Convoy coming to Toronto -- no chance, this isn't Mayberry -- the Toronto Mayor and Police are operationally aligned and prepared, not a soft target.

On border crossings ... remember international crossings and bridges are Federal turf -- RCMP, Ontario has no jurisdiction. Border Law Enforcement

Politicians are best staying in their lanes, making sure they take care of the stuff they are responsible for. The city of Ottawa had jurisdiction over the capital protest, the Gov't of Canada over border blockades.
 
Mad Mike said:
First off, the mayor had his own 1400 officers, which should have been plenty to contain and control 284 vehicles and 1000 convoy campers -- had they done anything. They also had OPP available, but the OPS ****** them off by taking over parts of their jurisdictional areas without notice or following protocol. OPP Operations commander Abrhams, testified, "We couldn't read their (OPS Leadership) minds as to what their plan was because there was no plan," to the Public Order Emergency Commission.

You are correct about the Convoy coming to Toronto -- no chance, this isn't Mayberry -- the Toronto Mayor and Police are operationally aligned and prepared, not a soft target.

On border crossings ... remember international crossings and bridges are Federal turf -- RCMP, Ontario has no jurisdiction. Border Law Enforcement

Politicians are best staying in their lanes, making sure they take care of the stuff they are responsible for. The city of Ottawa had jurisdiction over the capital protest, the Gov't of Canada over border blockades.
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Hence why there's the inquiry - let's find out how this clusterf*ck came to occur.
 
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justride said:

Doug Ford breaks silence on why he is refusing to testify at Emergencies Act inquiry: a ‘federal’ matter​

www.thestar.com

Doug Ford breaks silence on why he is refusing to testify at Emergencies Act inquiry: a ‘federal’ matter

Ford — who has ducked reporters and opposition MPPs since it emerged the commission of inquiry has summoned him and former solicitor general Sylvia Jones to appear — faced the music Wednesday.
www.thestar.com www.thestar.com


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Beat me too it.

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TK4 said:
Beat me too it.

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Based on that article, province told ottawa to call the opp if they needed help. If true, that seems reasonable. Leave the politicians out and let the police deal with it. Previous versions of the story I have seen implied that province said opp should not help. Who knows where truth lies.
 
Well either way it goes to show you our Gov still doesn't know what it's doing. You'd think our capital would be better protected and prepared for incidents like this but nope. Remember that wacko who walked up to capital hill and either shot or stabbed somebody. You'd think a light would have turned on and they would have implemented better security. Nope again and the truckers didn't keep it a secret.

Anyhow just venting it's just more dumb and dumber from our so called leaders. I'm sure this inquiry will lag on for awhile and everyone will forget about it and no real consequences will result from it, as usual.
 
@TK4 there is a thing as jurisdiction. Doug doesn't get to step on toes just because a) residents aren't happy and b) Ottawa Police Chief was a useless twat.

Ottawa was a ******* mess, and anyone who had their fingers in the pie is going to get sunk. I don't blame him either for trying to stay far away.
 
Evoex said:
@TK4 there is a thing as jurisdiction. Doug doesn't get to step on toes just because a) residents aren't happy and b) Ottawa Police Chief was a useless twat.

Ottawa was a ******* mess, and anyone who had their fingers in the pie is going to get sunk. I don't blame him either for trying to stay far away.
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There is a provincial Emergency Act - they did nothing.
Doug has been asked to testify and refused. My question is why ?
 
TK4 said:
Hence why there's the inquiry - let's find out how this clusterf*ck came to occur.
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The Inquiry is required to find out whether the Act should have been invoked, not to assign blame. The SNAFU is a red herring.

As Mike said, Ottawa Police had jurisdiction over the streets, not the OPP, and the Feds had jurisdiction over Parliament, not the OPP.
Dougie is also a red herring.

We've heard all the experts basically say that the Act wasn't necessary. There was already a plan in place that had started to be executed.
The good news is that the mayor, head of the police commission, and police chief are gone.


Edit: Here's Doug's quote from the Star:
“This is the federal inquiry into the federal government’s use of the federal Emergencies Act,” the premier said during question period in the legislature.

“From day one … for Ontario, this was a policing matter, it was not a political matter and the opposition knows that. Politicians don’t direct the police,” said Ford under questioning from NDP MPP Marit Stiles (Davenport).

“Top officials from the OPP (Ontario Provincial Police) that were running the operation in conjunction with the municipal police agencies and the RCMP are testifying at the committee.”

www.thestar.com

Doug Ford breaks silence on why he is refusing to testify at Emergencies Act inquiry: a ‘federal’ matter

Ford — who has ducked reporters and opposition MPPs since it emerged the commission of inquiry has summoned him and former solicitor general Sylvia Jones to appear — faced the music Wednesday.
www.thestar.com www.thestar.com
 
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TK4 said:
There is a provincial Emergency Act - they did nothing.
Doug has been asked to testify and refused. My question is why ?
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They did nothing...because it wasn't necessary?

Why would they need to ask the province about the federal use of federal law & resources. He can see the forest for the trees on this one, imo.
 
One thing I'd like to know is if any legislation was put through during the Emergencies Act period.
It would be able to slide through without due process, and scrutiny.
 
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