If the sitting, steering, driving, part lives in it's own weather tight "house" why would you store it in a bigger "house"?
when does the salt start?
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Malks
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And good theft / loss of use insurance I presume. With the ever increasing theft of vehicles from driveways, keeping your vehicles out of sight is another bonus of being able to park inside the garage. If they don't see it they won't try to steal it.
Not entirely true. A subdivision near me keeps losing vehicles from inside garages. Not sure if thieves are just randomly opening garages or if they are targeted. I just drive vehicles that people don't want to steal.
I think you think my truck is worth something.
I don't know why you think my truck is worth anything, when I just said I have six motorcycles lol
Trucks are more likely to get their cats stolen. Easy to crawl under as it sits. Most cars need a jack to steal their cats.
Mad Mike
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I just asked the 5th grader in my living room - he sounded like an expert when he answered “the day the roads get ice or snow”.
Mad Mike
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Tires are close to 100% grip at 7c, they drop quickly to about 60% at 0C.
Part is the hardening of rubber, the other is the hardening of asphalt.
You can feel them going away. As you get close to freezing, the snow is a far bigger traction issue than your tires. I've ridden in minus a lot and there was still lots of grip from the tires. Obviously less than in the summer but I have no need to try to drag knees on the street.
hymnz
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Does the bike feel heavier/difficult to move in those instances? I felt a little difficulty when I was taking my bike out this Monday and a few initial seconds of riding it felt like the bike was being lazy.
I chalked it up to tires being cold and did a couple of rounds in the crescent before taking the streets to ride to work.
I chalked it up to tires being cold and did a couple of rounds in the crescent before taking the streets to ride to work.
Make sure you stay on top of tire pressure. As temp drops, sometimes they need a bit more air. Soft tires would be lazy and vague. It can also be suspension oil thickening up or a million other things. Treat every day like it's a new bike. What you could do yesterday may not work today. Just take it easy and pay attention. If your spider sense is tingling, maybe you are pushing too hard for conditions that day.
Come on man!
What part of "I keep my truck in the driveway so that my six motorcycles can have enough room in the three car garage" makes you think I'm the type to run a stock cat and exhaust on anything?
V8, de-catted, aftermarket pipes (I think Magnas), but with resonator so it's not annoying on the long drives... and of course, naturally aspirated, because that's how God intended.
Cage belongs in driveway. Bikes belong in three car garage. Anything else is incorrect use of enclosed space. I don't make the rules, I just follow them.
Hey, woah, slow down there captain! We're gonna get someone killed if they're reading this on fastboi tires lol
For the average all-season car tires, totally yes.
For bike tires, honestly, what tires are we talking about?
A customer left his Ducati Diavel with me for a few days once and asked me to "take it for a good ride" for him. I can't remember what the tires were, but I think it was a set of Pirelli Diablo Rosso IIs. The temperatures were in the low to mid teens. I could NOT get those tires to warm up, stay warm, or do anything besides feel cold, stiff, and like this was going to be a very expensive ride.
The Metzeler ME880s on my bike on the other hand felt fine in the low-to-mid teens. I bet there are fastboi tire compounds out there that get a lot less grippy at even as warm as 12c.
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I ride year round. When the temperatures are cold, the bike doesn't get heavier, but I get much stiffer and less fluid. Like oil, in the warm, I'm viscous man, I can flow! But when it gets cold out, that loosey-goosey ride is out the window, smoothness and flow isn't the same. Ride accordingly.
And eventually it gets warm again, and when your friends who parked their motorcycles for six month out of the year are shaking off the winter rust and getting back into it, you're already out of there balls deep, naked and oiled up, yelling OMG SO MUCH GRIP!
Facts.
Mad Mike
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I notice traction loss when going I’ve painted lines on the road, particularly the fat lines at intersections. I’ve slid a few times crossing those fat lines while making right turns.
Mad Mike
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If you own fastboi tires, or do the “good ride” you probably don’t need this thread for advice. Look
Back when I was cageless I used my Ducati year around. You really need to learn to ride to conditions most importantly tire grip as the temps drop. I would not ride if there was any "moisture" in the forecast once it got cold, including rain near zero, snow, etc. and not until things were mostly cleaned up after weather. Make sure to keep the bike clean, staying out of moisture helps a lot on this front as the bike will be in the garage....
Heated vest and good cold weather riding gear, heated stuff helps reduce the required bulk and gives temp control. Make sure the winter gloves do not get hung up on brake and clutch leavers (as in they do not extend too far past your fingers). I got a couple of ear issues back then, ear plugs are a good idea and solved that.
For parking cages in a garage. Thieves shop at malls etc. and airtag what they want to find where it sleeps plus I expect lots of recon and not just happening upon a vehicle they want. Hiding in the garage will help but it is far from full-proof, this is why they get stolen from garages, at least the highly stolen ones. I think the bigger advantage is it makes them work harder more than hiding.
Also keep in mind that even unheated garages will be at a higher temp than outside and corrosion rate is dependant on temps, daily drivers in garages (winter) will rust faster than ones parked outside, does not matter much if it is newish and you will not keep it forever. Nothing like loading it up with slush and salt and then finding a nice warm (as in warmer than outside not tropical) to park it.
Heated vest and good cold weather riding gear, heated stuff helps reduce the required bulk and gives temp control. Make sure the winter gloves do not get hung up on brake and clutch leavers (as in they do not extend too far past your fingers). I got a couple of ear issues back then, ear plugs are a good idea and solved that.
For parking cages in a garage. Thieves shop at malls etc. and airtag what they want to find where it sleeps plus I expect lots of recon and not just happening upon a vehicle they want. Hiding in the garage will help but it is far from full-proof, this is why they get stolen from garages, at least the highly stolen ones. I think the bigger advantage is it makes them work harder more than hiding.
Also keep in mind that even unheated garages will be at a higher temp than outside and corrosion rate is dependant on temps, daily drivers in garages (winter) will rust faster than ones parked outside, does not matter much if it is newish and you will not keep it forever. Nothing like loading it up with slush and salt and then finding a nice warm (as in warmer than outside not tropical) to park it.
Keep in mind, we've seen guys on this forum put literal racing slicks on the street 600s thinking it'll make them faster around town... When it comes to tires, a lot of people just don't know and make silly/dangerous decisions. Don't give the masses too much credit lol
hymnz
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Did anyone's Google Weather briefly indicate snowfall on the 31st night through the next day morning?
I avoid leaning even slightly over these paints when it's moist outside. My gut just doesn't feel right over these wet & shiny patches on the road.
I'll debug my experience over the next week. We're hitting sub-zero on Tuesday morning.
