The advancements in technology are amazing. A generation ago that size of motor would be laughed off the street. What, no big block?
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When did pick up trucks turn into cars?
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The advancements in technology are amazing. A generation ago that size of motor would be laughed off the street. What, no big block?
I know someone who hauls a toy-hauler trailer using the 2.7 and 10 speed automatic (which is a great powertrain). Perhaps it might not be the best choice if you are towing through the mountains, but in the relatively flat terrain that we have, it seems to be fine.
Priller
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Believe me, I tried really hard to make the math add up over an equivalently equipped F-150. But an XLT with a few options ticked can give you most of what a Ridgeline Touring does for almost $10k less in the real world (particularly when including Ford discounts), and it destroys the Ridgeline for towing and hauling. Part of the problem is Honda's simplified options system, which forces you into a $7k higher trim to get basic items like bed lights and a power outlet. Actual fuel economy doesn't swing much either, as a 3.5 EcoBoost gets around 13 l/100 km, where a Ridgeline gets around 11. An improvement, but not a significant one...
To me, that says more about what incredible value the F-150 is (mostly a product of massive volumes and a hyper-competitive segment) than anything bad about the Ridgeline. If I didn't periodically actually use the towing and hauling of the bigger truck, I might have been able to justify the extra cost of the Ridgeline, but I do so I couldn't...
That motor is a gem. Most people think its just a smaller version of the 3.5, but its actually a different engine (the first gen shares no parts with the 3.5) co-developed with a German company and onto its second generation with further improvements, reliability and efficiency.
I would not hesitate to spec a 2.7 in my truck.
Unless your hauling a really big , loaded trailer the 2.7 ecoboost will get you anywhere you need to go . I have the V6 and towed 5,000 lbs to Carolina and back through the mountains with zero issue many times.
There is this button on the right stock in an F150 you push called tow mode that smartens up the automatic transmission and solves 80% of your issues.
Most folks having problems towing things are either A, never taught how to tow (its more complicated then having a hitch on your vehicle) B, are in way to big a hurry, C, have the wrong setup.
There is this button on the right stock in an F150 you push called tow mode that smartens up the automatic transmission and solves 80% of your issues.
Most folks having problems towing things are either A, never taught how to tow (its more complicated then having a hitch on your vehicle) B, are in way to big a hurry, C, have the wrong setup.
100% correct, Ford is a better value. Issue is, most people don't need the towing and load carrying capacitys. They use it like a CAR. The Ridgeline is the most car like Truck "MOST" people need.
I agree, but must add that my statement wasn't that the 2.7 could not handle the towing, it was that it gets pretty thirsty if it has to work hard.
Not 100% relevant but just dealing with Honda on a cracked windshield...
Honda dealer - $2300
Auto Glass Shop - $1100 (done at the house)
Both include OEM glass.
Honda dealer - $2300
Auto Glass Shop - $1100 (done at the house)
Both include OEM glass.
Priller
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The worst fuel economy I've ever seen from a truck without towing something big was one from a few generations ago that had the awful 4.6 l V8 in it. Same motor as the Crown Vic, and one of those '80s vintage domestic units that somehow made no power despite fairly big displacement and terrible fuel economy. Driving that thing in the mountains in BC was torture, as it was screaming off the rev limiter to barely drag its arse uphill, and as a result burned so much fuel it was using more than 30 l/100 km.
Thank heavens it was a rental. Definitely a lesson in there about sizing the motor to the job. Or avoiding most things domestic with roots in the '70s and '80s....
Priller
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Dealerships are never cheap for glass. When I needed a replacement windshield for my Accord, the Honda service writer sent me down the street to a glass shop, saying he couldn't come close on price.
the 4.6 "modular" engine as it was known as, was actually a decent power unit as well.
Did you ever try the old (1990s?) ford v10 gasser? Dual tanks and you could watch the needle dropping.
Priller
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Not in that truck, it wasn't. Couldn't even do 100 uphill towards Whistler, unloaded with me and one passenger. I've done that drive in a bunch of different vehicles, I've never had another one that just ran out of steam like that.
No, but I assume it did more than make a lot of noise for that kind of consumption?
Ya I’ll confirm the other shop is OEM glass because then I’d have a proper comparison.
Plus need to call insurance if that would count as a claim or not.
lol, buddy had one in his cube van. 10mpg if he was lucky...
You can't compare the ridge to a full-size. its a midsize truck and compared to midsize trucks, it is expensive. The only more expensive mid-size would be a fancy TRD-pro or ZR2.
I traded a gen1 raptor for a ridgeline which worked for me at the time but when it was totaled, and time came to buy a replacement I couldn't spend that money again for the bedsize/capabilities. It's a few inches shorter but a whole lot shorter in vertical height. MPG is almost the same depending on driving style.
Not sure about you guys but I like driving fast daily, the 3.5 eco puts a smile on my face whenever I'm not on the bike. The ridgeline? not so much.
edit: sorry forgot to mention the Gladiator. but that's part of the mallcrawler surcharge (wrangler + 4runner)
blackcamaro
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Does your Honda have lane keep assist, radar cruise etc? If so and you decide to use the independent shop make sure they guarantee those systems will function correctly and they are able to calibrate it if needed.
Honda’s seem sensitive to replacement windshields.
Yes we discussed this. They said it’s more expensive due to the calibration required with those super fun systems.
I had a new 4.6L f150, 2010 xlt. It hauled a trailer and 2 bikes to the gap at least a couple times, (and a few other heavy loads). Going through the hills, I used the "tow" button. I know it's not whistler, but I never had a power problem with that truck.
I've had gmc's and chevys with 350's. Blah.
The Ridgeline touring I've got now is the best (all around, non worker/working) vehicle I've owned. If I needed to haul construction equipment, or float a skid steer, well it's not for that.
So much easier to stuff into a parking spot at the grocery store than an f150.
It's dry inside too. The f150 leaked like a sieve.
Gas mileage is a bit better in the Honda, that's not why I bought one tho.
If i buy a Ford, I get real "dealer cost" being a ford retiree, but I don't want one.
DownUnder
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