When did pick up trucks turn into cars?

[killvino]

Does your Honda have lane keep assist, radar cruise etc? If so and you decide to use the independent shop make sure they guarantee those systems will function correctly and they are able to calibrate it if needed.

Honda’s seem sensitive to replacement windshields.

don't forget cylinder deactivation

 

[Priller]

I had a new 4.6L f150, 2010 xlt. It hauled a trailer and 2 bikes to the gap at least a couple times, (and a few other heavy loads). Going through the hills, I used the "tow" button. I know it's not whistler, but I never had a power problem with that truck.

Fair enough. Maybe it was the altitude, maybe I had a lemon. It felt fine around town, just burned more gas than expected...

 

[killerkeith]

I agree, but must add that my statement wasn't that the 2.7 could not handle the towing, it was that it gets pretty thirsty if it has to work hard.

I towed my first camper last year approx 6000lbs and got 500km to a tank. Big time thirsty.

 

[nobbie48]

Does towing have to be hard on the drive train?

I don't have real numbers so work with some assumptions. Assume in normal non towing mode your vehicle has an average acceleration and working drive shaft torque of X foot pounds. If you tow and keep the torque at the same limit what added stress is on the drive train? You will accelerate slower.

The brakes will be different particularly in a panic stop, something you can't control, and there is additional load.

Handling is affected by more weight on the rear and the front / rear weight distribution stability is off.

 

[GreyGhost]

Does towing have to be hard on the drive train?

I don't have real numbers so work with some assumptions. Assume in normal non towing mode your vehicle has an average acceleration and working drive shaft torque of X foot pounds. If you tow and keep the torque at the same limit what added stress is on the drive train? You will accelerate slower.

The brakes will be different particularly in a panic stop, something you can't control, and there is additional load.

Handling is affected by more weight on the rear and the front / rear weight distribution stability is off.

I think very few people keep torque the same when towing. Many people are doubling or tripling the accelerated mass so you acceleration would be cut by an equivalent amount. What is normal driving, 0-60 in 10 to 15 seconds? That goes to 20 to 45 with a trailer? I think many people keep acceleration similar (a little slower but not vastly different) so you are doubling or tripling drivetrain stress.

The other hiccup in the thinking is constant speed with a trailer requires a lot more torque than constant speed without. That means you either drive much slower or increase the steady state loading on the truck by a lot.

 

[backmarkerducati]

Instead of dancing around it... lets get to the point.

Yes some people buy and use trucks as trucks, they haul, they tow, but why are they really such high sellers, and why do they keep getting bigger...because of things like the spread of Peyronie's Disease or simple things like the side effects of smoking.

Just remember if you hang the "balls" at the back of your truck. Receiver hitch in you are a pitcher, receiver out you are a catcher (might have it backwards, that could be awkward), but there is a code like how one wears their watch. It is all cool with me BTW... love who you love and show it with pride.

 

[BigEvilDoer]

Yes some people buy and use trucks as trucks, they haul, they tow, but why are they really such high sellers, and why do they keep getting bigger...because of things like the spread of Peyronie's Disease or simple things like the side effects of smoking.

Have you watched the movie Wall-E? Big people need big vehicles.
Me, I carry a little extra - classic Dad bod... 6' tall. I love the comfort of my F150 when compared to my gf's Colorado. Not having the closed in leg compartment is fantastic.