Dayao12
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Well, whatever you do, I'm sure you'll make the right decision. =D
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what would you do..
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Well, whatever you do, I'm sure you'll make the right decision. =D
GentlemanRacer
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For ID, get the new Ontario Photo Card. http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/driver/photo-card.shtml
It's for people who can't get drivers licenses, like the blind, and need government issued ID to live.
I almost lost my license over the G expiry thing as well and it was partially the reason I got a motorcycle license, since it was a way to get basic wheels while I waited out the G1 restrictions. Ended up not losing my G and prefer to ride a bike now.
But yeah, basically what you've done is how people become poor. It starts with something like losing your drivers license, then you lose a job for being late because you can't get there by bus, then you miss credit card payments which kills your credit, then rent, then you can't pass a credit check for a smaller place, if you have a family, it's worse since you can lose half of your remaining income and assets when it breaks up, and in as fast as 8-10 months you are living under a bridge.
Forget racing for now and sort out these other issues as, seriously, you have a lot of downside in front of you.
It's for people who can't get drivers licenses, like the blind, and need government issued ID to live.
I almost lost my license over the G expiry thing as well and it was partially the reason I got a motorcycle license, since it was a way to get basic wheels while I waited out the G1 restrictions. Ended up not losing my G and prefer to ride a bike now.
But yeah, basically what you've done is how people become poor. It starts with something like losing your drivers license, then you lose a job for being late because you can't get there by bus, then you miss credit card payments which kills your credit, then rent, then you can't pass a credit check for a smaller place, if you have a family, it's worse since you can lose half of your remaining income and assets when it breaks up, and in as fast as 8-10 months you are living under a bridge.
Forget racing for now and sort out these other issues as, seriously, you have a lot of downside in front of you.
gtm
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TOhanks for the reply gentleman, but the Ontario id card has the same requirements to get it as a drivers license.
The only id I have, which I don't think even counts, is my notice of birth registration. I found out if I have my certificate of live birth (this is used in conjunction with the notice of birth registration to get your babies birth certificate) and I can get a guarantor to fill out a form then they have to accept and give me a license...
So basically I'm royally screwed.. birth certificates take 15 days to get... I've heard you can get a new passport as long as you have your old one? Though that doesn't sound entirely right considering how hard it is to get everything else.
That is definitely a scary thought though, and I do wonder how many people that has happened to. Really these service places should be open later...
The only id I have, which I don't think even counts, is my notice of birth registration. I found out if I have my certificate of live birth (this is used in conjunction with the notice of birth registration to get your babies birth certificate) and I can get a guarantor to fill out a form then they have to accept and give me a license...
So basically I'm royally screwed.. birth certificates take 15 days to get... I've heard you can get a new passport as long as you have your old one? Though that doesn't sound entirely right considering how hard it is to get everything else.
That is definitely a scary thought though, and I do wonder how many people that has happened to. Really these service places should be open later...
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torontoZX6R
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Patiently awaiting TurboDish's flamethrower...
C'mon dude. You waited to take your test right before your current one expired. You failed. So now it is the service centers fault for not being open later? If you know your leaving the country do you wait till the week before to get your passport? Plan ahead and expect the unexpected. Take some responsibility for your own actions or lack there of.
gtm
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Heh, I know what you mean and you are right. It was terribly poor planning on my part, or as you said, lack there of. I never expected I would be in the situation I am in now, I don't know why but I never expected it would spiral out of control in the way it has to the point I am at now. Looking at it from the standpoint I have now, I cant believe I let it happen because it seems pretty silly. The problem is that I was under the impression I had my birth certificate, which I found out when it was already too late that I do not; what I thought it was is actually a "notice of birth registration" which I have found out is used in conjunction with a certificate of live birth, in order to apply and receive a birth certificate when you are born. My mother has it (to my knowledge), and I have not spoken with her in about 3 years so it makes it a bit hard to get a hold of that. My father also is not willing to go to the office and get the birth certificate for me either, and he does not have a copy of it.
I do not blame anyone but myself, and no it is not the service centers fault. Its just that I am highly relied upon at my job, and taking days isn't as simple as it may seem; if I am not here, essentially nothing runs or gets done.. its a tough spot, and its been driving me nuts as of late to be honest. I spend my 10 hours a day here, and then I usually come back later on at night to make sure things are still good and the night shift guys are in line with what is going on the way I want things.. I typically push 60 hour or more weeks, not because I really want to, but because I feel like I have to, and I feel responsible for everything going on here. So I do wish the centers were open later and more accommodating to the daily worker as it would make things a lot easier for me, but I cannot place any blame on them and I dont see how you could think that of what I said.
I will not be attending the race this weekend even though I've been offered a lift from some very kind members of the board, I hope everyone there the best, and I will see you all at mosport next weekend with all my stuff sorted out.
Thanks for the kind, and somewhat harsh words, and the scenarios mentioned, this has been quite the eye opening life lesson to say the least.
gtm
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in the precision cnc world attention to detail is critical.
the fact that the people I manage are usually not capable of such attention to detail is why they typically need to be babied along, have their hands held etc. I have to double check everything. Even after given instructions things are always messing up. It drives myself and my boss nuts, and its getting to the point where I just cannot handle it all myself..
Coming in after the weekend to see that I've made scrap all weekend because buddy didnt notice that there was an aspect missing to a part (broken tool) is quite disconcerting, when I know had I popped in I could have done something.
Such is life
Why are they still employed??
There are a TON of good, CNC operators around.
There are a TON of good, CNC operators around.
gtm
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I wish that were the truth.
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To expand on that comment:
There are decent operators around, however they typically (and in our experience trying to find guys) want far too much money for what they offer, and they tend to come from companies wherein they stood watch at one machine for an entire day twiddling their thumbs watching parts come out. I have 7 lathes, and 3 mills I am in charge of, and only I know how to operate/setup/program the majority of them.. I've tried teaching, but I can only repeat myself so long and I am just not confident in handing over my new machines to some of these guys. We've had guys come into interviews saying they can do this and that, "part to print" as they say, but then you get them on the floor, hand them a print and say "make it" and they'll stand there as clueless as rodrigo is when it comes to braking.
We have one guy here right now, lots of experience, but he is slower than molasses and even though hes been doing this for probably 5x longer than I have, he still needs guidance, wants you to double check everything for him even though hes already quadruple checked it, and needs a pat on the back now and then. My boss cannot stand it, he has made zero money off of this guy and he is very vocal about it to me. But we need him because at the end of the day he gets parts running.
The issue is that my boss has hired more "workers", "laborers" if you will, that just dont know a thing, dont care to know, and just want to punch in and punch out and dont care if they make $12/h for the rest of their lives.
I know we need more talented skilled people, but at the end of the day, those people are very hard to come by, and most of the time they dont fit into the demands of our shop. Lots of guys want to and are used to stick(ing) to one machine and one machine only, just punch in and out, with no real care in their work. At least that has been my impression over the past few years in this industry.
I have jobs where I have to hold a few tenths, and no matter how much I stress that the part cannot very in circularity by more than a tenth and cannot vary in its diameter by more than a few tenths, I'll still come in at night and find parts out, or come in in the morning to a night of completely bad parts. We run a few hex jobs and when those bars are bent its a real problem; I've pretty much taught lessons on how to check the bars, yet I still find myself pulling bars because of extreme bends/kinks.
It can be very frustrating to say the least most days..
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Dude, you and your boss need to sit down and reevaluate your organization's structure. If the quality isn't there, and you're scrapping that much metal and time, it likely IS worth paying those good, experienced guys the big bucks.
Put it this way: I'm an electrical engineer. House wiring is likely something I could figure out how to do. But the time and effort I would have to spend reading up on codes, figuring out how to do the wiring, and getting it done would be quite a lot. It would eventually get done. Or, I can pay an electrician $70/hr and have him finish off the job in a few hours, and more than likely do a better job.
Cheaper isn't always better. Hire the right people, and you'll have an edge on the competition.
gtm
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Oh you don't need to educate me on the subject.
I just do my thing and work with what I have and give input where I can, but at the end of the day it is his company and not mine. I'd say its fairly safe to say that he knows what he is doing considering how much we have grown in the past two years alone while most companies have been going tits up right and left. Then again I could be quite arrogant and say that is only because I joined the ranks.. but I digress.
To put your example to use,
so you hire that contractor, he does his job, it works, but its actually not to code at all (but who are you to verify his work? after all he is licensed) and you never find out until its too late (I would guess during a home inspection when you're trying to sell).
So I bring on a guy who says he can do this and that, and he can come to me with a pretty looking part, but the dimensions are all off, perhaps maybe within the extreme ends of tolerances, but hes asking to run the job, because he is lazy and doesnt want (or isnt capable) to think about making the correct tooling offsets.. So I tell him to make the changes and start running, and he does. Then 3 months later we get a call from the customer with complaints about a certain job..
I may have parts with a +/-.005" tolerance, but I always hold my parts to within a thou or less, I try to be as exact as possible and that is the goal of the company, to make perfect, top quality parts. Certain employees that I may deem unfit, other companies would think they have struck gold, and that is a problem in the industry, and with the people within it.
The old saying, if you want something done right, you've gotta do it yourself has never been more true to me than since I entered the workforce.
I may be over dramatizing the way things sound, but trust me when I say it is very hard to find people on par with the level of ability and awareness we strive for.
I'm sure someone will say it, but yes I have thought about finding another job before.
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GentlemanRacer
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Yes, but if you want something done profitably, you have to pay someone to do it for someone else.
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