What happens if KTM goes bust?

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Scuba Steve said:
It must be the most expensive company to borrow in history seeing as you have to give it back. MV won't last they dont have the market or product.

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KTM greatly increased their sales to 4000 vehicles in a year. Those are roughly McLaren volumes but McLaren starts at $200K each. Either mva needs to increase prices a lot (which I doubt the market would bear) or 10x volume (which seems hard for them to do).
 
Maybe you should trade it for a Victory.
 
oomis said:
Fml I have one of those too.
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I had a Victory and they stopped making them a few yrs later now have a couple KTM's and........

It's me, Hi, I'm the problem it's me.

(to be fair, my HD friends still all reminisce that my Victory Magnum was a beauty and it was also as reliable as a brick).
 
Hardwrkr13 said:
I had a Victory and they stopped making them a few yrs later now have a couple KTM's and........

It's me, Hi, I'm the problem it's me.

(to be fair, my HD friends still all reminisce that my Victory Magnum was a beauty and it was also as reliable as a brick).
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I just bought a new KTM 300 deal was too good to pass up here's hoping they make it.

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Remember the saying!
"if its too good to be true it probably is"
 
Here's what I don't understand. At last count, they had something like 265,000 unsold inventory sitting around. Shouldn't they be offering insane incentives to people to buy from that pool? I don't know what the average price is, but if their debt is $3,000,000,000, they could pay it all off if the average selling price was $11,320, or a big chunk of it if the average is less.. And that's not including ongoing and future income from accessories, parts, etc.
 
Relax said:
Here's what I don't understand. At last count, they had something like 265,000 unsold inventory sitting around. Shouldn't they be offering insane incentives to people to buy from that pool? I don't know what the average price is, but if their debt is $3,000,000,000, they could pay it all off if the average selling price was $11,320, or a big chunk of it if the average is less.. And that's not including ongoing and future income from accessories, parts, etc.
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They had some big discounts in December nothing significant since.

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Trackday said:
If KTM were to go bankrupt, should I sell my bike quickly and switch to a brand like Yamaha or Honda? At the end of the day, it’s all about parts availability, and I’m not just talking about aftermarket options but OEM parts that only the manufacturer can provide. Some suppliers, including those that make swingarms and other castings for KTM, have already declared insolvency. If someone buys KTM’s assets, how long would it take for parts to start flowing again, and how would local distribution be affected? If the parent company goes under, does that mean KTM Canada would close as well? What are your thoughts on the situation?
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Talk to any Victory owners. They went through the same thing.
 
Relax said:
That's what doesn't make sense - why not keep the discount ongoing until they're all sold?
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I don't get it either I want a new 65 for the kids but want it cheap. Maybe after the creditors meeting.

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Relax said:
Here's what I don't understand. At last count, they had something like 265,000 unsold inventory sitting around. Shouldn't they be offering insane incentives to people to buy from that pool? I don't know what the average price is, but if their debt is $3,000,000,000, they could pay it all off if the average selling price was $11,320, or a big chunk of it if the average is less.. And that's not including ongoing and future income from accessories, parts, etc.
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The likely want to hold that inventory until the find out what kind of haircut their creditors are willing to take. Inventory is their “money in the bank” should they get a chance to reorganize. Liquidating inventory buys nothing today.

Not a new strategy for companies seeking bankruptcy protection.

If things go bad 2 with creditors it will be a blowout sale. I remember a few years back, MV sold a bunch of inventory thru Racer5, could have picked up a new Brute for $6-7k.
 
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Relax said:
That's what doesn't make sense - why not keep the discount ongoing until they're all sold?
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I think it's because long-term discounts become the new MSRP.

It impacts the sale price of newer 2025 models coming through the doors. If you put a time-limit on the sale of NOS, it lights a fire under potential buyer's behinds. What some manufacturers have done is put a one month time-limit on the sale, wait a month or two and then conduct another sale for another 30 days.

I talked to a salesguy over Xmas and he said the manufacturer's discounts ended at the end of the year, but would probably pop up again in March if there was remaining excess unsold inventory. That way they could probably better gauge how deep a discount to give at that time.
 
KTM still alive. Next ruling date is in May regarding funding.
 
I'd be a little concerned about putting big bucks into one of their larger displacement bikes and then seeing the company go belly up or struggle so much that parts and warranty service suffers.

Your money of course, but would savings be so large that you'd want to risk it?

Other issue is the resale value of a bike where the manufacturer is bankrupt or where parts are going to be scarce. Ask former Victory owners what it was like to try and sell their bikes once Polaris pulled the plug.
 
ReSTored said:
I'd be a little concerned about putting big bucks into one of their larger displacement bikes and then seeing the company go belly up or struggle so much that parts and warranty service suffers.

Your money of course, but would savings be so large that you'd want to risk it?

Other issue is the resale value of a bike where the manufacturer is bankrupt or where parts are going to be scarce. Ask former Victory owners what it was like to try and sell their bikes once Polaris pulled the plug.
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For all of those reasons, I see very very little value in the "free" extended warranty. Give me the bike cheap enough and I'll take my lumps with service and resale headaches.
 
ReSTored said:
I'd be a little concerned about putting big bucks into one of their larger displacement bikes and then seeing the company go belly up or struggle so much that parts and warranty service suffers.

Your money of course, but would savings be so large that you'd want to risk it?

Other issue is the resale value of a bike where the manufacturer is bankrupt or where parts are going to be scarce. Ask former Victory owners what it was like to try and sell their bikes once Polaris pulled the plug.
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Sold my Victory Magnum a year or two after they stopped making them. I had a stampede of people wanting to buy it and I listed it for $2000 less than I paid for it at the dealer new 4yrs earlier and had put 40,000km on it. Guy drove 4hours to pick it up (hauling a massive enclosed trailer btw must have been 100's in gas alone). Guy in the US bought my leather Victory jacket the same day I listed it and paid me more than it cost me new.
Just sayin'.
Victory gave people something a little bit different. Not much out there compares to a big KTM in fun level whether it's the stompin Super Duke's or dirt Super Adventure R so the demand may keep resale steady.
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