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We Know you Ride, But do you Shoot?
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GateKeeper
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Re: We know you ride, but do you Shoot?
I was under impresion we are limited to 10 rounds only ?? with some exceptions, pistol mag for 40SW will hold 10 rounds but stick in 9mm and you can get 13 ?
Actually it's typically 10 rounds, but some mags will hold more of a smaller caliber and can go up to 13
probably is, but I don't know of any pistol mags the hold 14 rounds of .223, I believe that is what they were using ?
I really hope those mags are legal, and not prohibited, otherwise some one is going to be in a bit of trouble ??
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bulletins/bus-ent/20110323-72-eng.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjvXpWP6-WE
I was under impresion we are limited to 10 rounds only ?? with some exceptions, pistol mag for 40SW will hold 10 rounds but stick in 9mm and you can get 13 ?
Actually it's typically 10 rounds, but some mags will hold more of a smaller caliber and can go up to 13
probably is, but I don't know of any pistol mags the hold 14 rounds of .223, I believe that is what they were using ?
I really hope those mags are legal, and not prohibited, otherwise some one is going to be in a bit of trouble ??
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bulletins/bus-ent/20110323-72-eng.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjvXpWP6-WE
Re: We know you ride, but do you Shoot?
Law in Canada states that the capacity of a magazine is based on the ammunition it is designed for, and not what ammunition can actually fit in it. My KRISS Vector for instance is a rifle by registration, and therefore should only have 5 round magazines, but since it uses Glock 21 hand gun magazines it comes with a 10 round GLock 21 magazine. This is the same reason we can use LAR 10 round pistol mags in our AR15 rifles.
Now the new thing is to use a magazine that is designed for a totally different caliber of ammunition, and with this we get the 50 Beowulf magazine. Which is what I have in the video, its a PVC magazine manufactured in Canada to hold 5 rounds of 50 Beowulf. It just so happens that this 5 round Beowulf magazine holds 14 rounds of .223/5.56 perfectly, this is along that same lines as using a Glock 40cal mag and fitting extra 9mm rounds in it
You guys must be under a rock, Ive only been shooting about a year now and I know about these loopholes. There are tons of pre sales going on right now for metal 50 Beowulf mags, before these came out the plastic ones I have were the only thing on the market besides a LAR 10 mag
Law in Canada states that the capacity of a magazine is based on the ammunition it is designed for, and not what ammunition can actually fit in it. My KRISS Vector for instance is a rifle by registration, and therefore should only have 5 round magazines, but since it uses Glock 21 hand gun magazines it comes with a 10 round GLock 21 magazine. This is the same reason we can use LAR 10 round pistol mags in our AR15 rifles.
Now the new thing is to use a magazine that is designed for a totally different caliber of ammunition, and with this we get the 50 Beowulf magazine. Which is what I have in the video, its a PVC magazine manufactured in Canada to hold 5 rounds of 50 Beowulf. It just so happens that this 5 round Beowulf magazine holds 14 rounds of .223/5.56 perfectly, this is along that same lines as using a Glock 40cal mag and fitting extra 9mm rounds in it
You guys must be under a rock, Ive only been shooting about a year now and I know about these loopholes. There are tons of pre sales going on right now for metal 50 Beowulf mags, before these came out the plastic ones I have were the only thing on the market besides a LAR 10 mag
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Re: We know you ride, but do you Shoot?
Well if a mag holds 13 (9mm like mentioned above) then it would be possible to load one in the chamber and top up to 14 no?
Well if a mag holds 13 (9mm like mentioned above) then it would be possible to load one in the chamber and top up to 14 no?
Re: We know you ride, but do you Shoot?
Common man Im not that stupid, and I dont think the range officers there would let me shoot and shoot it themselfs if it was illegal. You can print out the law if your worried and carry it with you, but they are legal...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVTSVowayL8
Common man Im not that stupid, and I dont think the range officers there would let me shoot and shoot it themselfs if it was illegal. You can print out the law if your worried and carry it with you, but they are legal...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVTSVowayL8
GateKeeper
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Re: We know you ride, but do you Shoot?
I don't live under a rock, but was hopeful u were not as well, u r a new shooter and u could get caught up in things u might not want to, I am glad you did your home work
http://globalnews.ca/news/772067/th...magazines-that-legally-triple-rifle-capacity/
an article for all others as well
I don't live under a rock, but was hopeful u were not as well, u r a new shooter and u could get caught up in things u might not want to, I am glad you did your home work
http://globalnews.ca/news/772067/th...magazines-that-legally-triple-rifle-capacity/
an article for all others as well
GateKeeper
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Re: We know you ride, but do you Shoot?
Absolutely......
But it was not 9mm being used, so I had a concern
Absolutely......
But it was not 9mm being used, so I had a concern
Re: We know you ride, but do you Shoot?
Take advantage of it while you can, they got so popular recently that there was talk of the RCMP trying to prohib them and LAR mags also
Take advantage of it while you can, they got so popular recently that there was talk of the RCMP trying to prohib them and LAR mags also
GateKeeper
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Re: We know you ride, but do you Shoot?
i did not imply u were, I was just trying to be helpful in case....
i put 2 lar mags and have 20 at a time, I just have to flip after the first 10, but if u r quick there is not much of a delay.....actually it's 21 in total one in the chamber....
i did not imply u were, I was just trying to be helpful in case....
i put 2 lar mags and have 20 at a time, I just have to flip after the first 10, but if u r quick there is not much of a delay.....actually it's 21 in total one in the chamber....
Re: We know you ride, but do you Shoot?
Currently I only own 2 PVC 50 Beowulf mags and the 5 round cheapo that came with my Daniel Defense rifle when I bought it. I have never used the 5 rounder, the first time I went to a range to shoot it I looked on the shelf and they have LAR 10 rounders made who knows where and the PVC 14 rounders made in Canada. So I just bought the 50 Beowulf, I have about 1000 rounds through the 2 of them so far with no problems. Im waiting for the metal ones to become more available and Im going to grab some of those, they are longer then a LAR and curved so I like them more then a LAR shape/size wise
Currently I only own 2 PVC 50 Beowulf mags and the 5 round cheapo that came with my Daniel Defense rifle when I bought it. I have never used the 5 rounder, the first time I went to a range to shoot it I looked on the shelf and they have LAR 10 rounders made who knows where and the PVC 14 rounders made in Canada. So I just bought the 50 Beowulf, I have about 1000 rounds through the 2 of them so far with no problems. Im waiting for the metal ones to become more available and Im going to grab some of those, they are longer then a LAR and curved so I like them more then a LAR shape/size wise
Re: We know you ride, but do you Shoot?
Definitely not a .22 lol I thought my 10.5" 5.56 rifle had a lot of percussion and big fire balls. The 7.5 is probably 2x more, Im going to have to choose my shooting times because I will not be making any friends if anyone has to shoot beside me at the range. Me and my friend went and I couldn't shoot when he was shooting and vise versa, you can see the flames from the stall beside and I feel the percussion is worse for the people beside and behind the shooter. Basically its really loud and obnoxious, but tons of fun to shoot! We had a pretty big fan club after we started shaking the ceiling tiles in the front of the range
Heres another clip of mag dumping the KRISS Vector
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcEwPg-q_00
Definitely not a .22 lol I thought my 10.5" 5.56 rifle had a lot of percussion and big fire balls. The 7.5 is probably 2x more, Im going to have to choose my shooting times because I will not be making any friends if anyone has to shoot beside me at the range. Me and my friend went and I couldn't shoot when he was shooting and vise versa, you can see the flames from the stall beside and I feel the percussion is worse for the people beside and behind the shooter. Basically its really loud and obnoxious, but tons of fun to shoot! We had a pretty big fan club after we started shaking the ceiling tiles in the front of the range
Heres another clip of mag dumping the KRISS Vector
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcEwPg-q_00
Used to, but I moved out of the area a couple of months ago. Definitely hook up with Dennis and Mike. They do BB courses and also have IPSC practices that help A LOT in skills development - summers at WCRA, winters at Colby. I think the guy who runs IDPA at Colby is Tom, also a good guy but I've only seen him in passing in addition to shooting one of his matches (was a blast even though I was struggling with the NEA 22LR upper just for s&g)
Depends on which ones. Metal ones work great, period. Plastic PCV ones work great for a short while and then the feed lips spread out and then the doublefeeds happen.
You should really count the 14rds when you load them, because they will take 15 but that spreads the lips out. Its tighter to get into the magwel when you put 15 and it will double feed the first 2. I know they will fail eventually being all plastic, that is why I haven't bought into the Magpul Glock magazines because they don't have metal feed lips...They are almost half the price of a OEM Glock Mag but still not buying
I was only loading the first mag to 14 and the rest to 13. Still got plenty of double-feeds after a while. It's not that they are made of plastic.. The problem is that they are made of polymerized diarrhoea. P-mags are plastic and they are actually more durable and less prone to failure than USGI mags.
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