What about Vitamin P? P stands for p*nani
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What about Vitamin P? P stands for p*nani
That only exist in your world, Linky
Stumbled across this article yesterday.
http://www.foodrenegade.com/can-organic-feed-world/
For those who think organic isn't sustainable and that genetic modification is a good thing.
Interesting thread. I've learned a lot. I only take a quality daily multivitamin and maybe its overkill but it makes me feel better as I can't always eat a balanced diet with the busy pace of life.
Thanks Roasted for the heads up on the pre-workout drinks. I never really thought of it like that. I usually never take any supplement for too long and take long breaks well of course other than Protein which for me is an easy way to get a mid day sweet fix and add protein to my diet.
Since we are talking about supplements. Anyone have thoughts on BCAA supplements?
Thanks Roasted for the heads up on the pre-workout drinks. I never really thought of it like that. I usually never take any supplement for too long and take long breaks well of course other than Protein which for me is an easy way to get a mid day sweet fix and add protein to my diet.
Since we are talking about supplements. Anyone have thoughts on BCAA supplements?
You still haven't answered my question regarding how genetic modification affect vitamins in food.
...and that link you posted is comparing organic food production vs chemical agriculture. I am arguing genetic modification. We are arguing apples to oranges here.
I don't know how it affects vitamins but like I said earlier, that's not necessarily what I was commenting on. My comment about food was general. It may or may not affect vitamins.
Chemical agriculture IS genetic modification for all intents and purposes. I just thought it was an interesting read.
Edit: A quick google can show how genetic modification can improve vitamins in food. But I'd argue that if you're not getting that vitamin in the first place, you're eating the wrong foods.
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I don't know how it affects vitamins but like I said earlier, that's not necessarily what I was commenting on. My comment about food was general. It may or may not affect vitamins.
Chemical agriculture IS genetic modification for all intents and purposes. I just thought it was an interesting read.
I think you're getting it all confused. Chemical is different. This is where they use pesticides to kill pest, parasites and fungi on the plants. This keep the plant disease free. Most of these chemicals they use are obviously bad for human consumption.
Genetic Modification on the other hand is an entirely different process. Rather than using chemicals to treat something, they start with the genetic makeup of the plant. Our genome or that of plant's is like a cassette tape. It has alot of information on it, like the cassette it has a lot of songs on it. The geneticist is like a DJ, he decides what song he wants played and how long the song will play for. He can also decide he wants to omit certain words from the song. He can snip certain genes in plants genome, omit some and even add some if he likes. For instance, those of seedless watermelons and seedless grapes. He intentionally removed those genes so the plant do not produce seeds in their fruits. Some plants might have a genetic advantage to certain diseases and rather than grow a few generations of those plants to have better disease resistant plants, he can insert that gene to a disadvantage plant.
I have done a brief search on the disadvantages of genetically modified plants and have not come up with anything major. The exception is having proteins produced in the plants that might create allergies.
Genetic technology has made our life less difficult and there is denying about that.
Just trying to clear up a misconception here
You're right. I was operating on the assumption that food is good from the get go and does not need to be modified. But the two are different things in this light.
So if we're producing massively greater amounts of food from the same amount of land, where are all the nutrients coming from to make this food? It either has to come from the sunlight, or the soil. If a maize plant makes 4 ears of corn, or 12, how can each ear of corn have the same nutritional content? I suppose you make up for it with additional fertilizers. But I wouldn't be surprised to find that the nutritional value in one piece of fruit has declined significantly with our great increases in yield per acre.
this book on vitamin D is fantastic. http://www.naturallysavvy.com/general-reviews/vitamin-d-the-sunshine-vitamin-by-zoltan-rona It's amazing how many things are linked to vitamin D.
Genetic modification is not that bad, but when we have the ability to detect diseases in babies before they are born, from their genetic makeup, that creates a problem for others. Some ppl would abort babies who might have a genetic disease
Yes from fertilizers.
Crops only need 3 basic nutrients to grow. These are N, P, K. Nitrogen, Phosphorus and Potassium. These are cheap to produce and readily available, even in your garden supplies. They need other trace elements but only sparingly.
I don't know exactly how the nutritional value is affected. But I won't say it is affected much
You forgot Calcium, Magnesium, Sulfur, Boron, Copper, Iron, Chloride, Manganese, Molybdenum, and Zinc. I googled "nutrients required for a plant to grow".
Sounds like those plants should take a multi-vitamin.
Haha! Fruits and vegetables ARE multivitamins. Where did you think all the vitamins in food came from? All that wonderful nitrogen, potassium, and phosphorus?
Yes, but the ones that they need sparingly are kind of important, no?
so,, back to peeing out the excess,, what happens at the treatment plant ? things like vitamins,, and other pills that have been once thru the "person" so to speak,, and also some pills that just get flushed to get rid of them.
There is also radiation treatments that pass thru the body, and into the urine. not a big deal at your home,, from one little pill. But at the ontario "clean water" agency pools,, there is a cocktail of vitamins, nutrients, chemicals, hormones, radiation... oh, i never said that.... anyway, some of that stuff ends up in the water supply ... and people downstream irrigate crops with it. Now your food has value added stuff!
There is also radiation treatments that pass thru the body, and into the urine. not a big deal at your home,, from one little pill. But at the ontario "clean water" agency pools,, there is a cocktail of vitamins, nutrients, chemicals, hormones, radiation... oh, i never said that.... anyway, some of that stuff ends up in the water supply ... and people downstream irrigate crops with it. Now your food has value added stuff!
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