Very upsetting global news segment

[Cha0s00100]

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Im not a fan of how the viewed it. They made it seem like riders are to blame; The cop talking about how riders are going too fast or riding outside their limits. Furthermore they made no mention of how Goldie was not at fault. The interview itself was much longer then the segment and they twist it any way they want. I wish they would have talk more about cagers being aware of their surroundings and treat riders with more fking respect. Not to mention the $h!t condition of our Toronto roads. F U Global F U ! . . alright my morning rant is done =D

 

[Cat13]

Im not a fan of how the viewed it. They made it seem like riders are to blame; The cop talking about how riders are going too fast or riding outside their limits. Furthermore they made no mention of how Goldie was not at fault. The interview itself was much longer then the segment and they twist it any way they want. I wish they would have talk more about cagers being aware of their surroundings and treat riders with more fking respect. Not to mention the $h!t condition of our Toronto roads. F U Global F U ! . . alright my morning rant is done =D

You obviously haven't met Goldie.... we all know shes not to blame but she still feels like there was something she could have done

 

[toysareforboys]

there was something she could have done

After seeing the actual accident photos and hearing it from her first hand, I agree with the above statement. She did survive, which if she had made other choices, may not have, so you can't really say she made any bad decisions.

-Jamie M.

 

[Cat13]

After seeing the actual accident photos and hearing it from her first hand, I agree with the above statement. She did survive, which if she had made other choices, may not have, so you can't really say she made any bad decisions.

-Jamie M.

You missed where I said "she feels"

I don't believe she did anything wrong, but she said she had a bad feeling and she ignored it.

I'm glad she survived... I would have missed meeting an amazing woman otherwise.

 

[Holmes]

I agree! Quite frankly I get tired of the cager-bashing. As riders, *we* need to ride as defensively as possible. I'm sure there are a few people on this forum who also drive a car. Are you "out to kill motorcyclists too"? I'm certainly not!

I was driving from Hamilton to Burlington yesterday on the QEW (just before 6 p.m.). My cousin was with me. A guy on a motorcycle (sportsbike, red t-shirt) was riding (what I considered) dangerously and recklessly. Out of nowhere, he even cut into my lane from the left. Then he quickly cut back over to take the left exit onto Hwy 6. This guy was riding as though he were on a racing track instead of a public highway. It was disgusting to see.

I disagree on such a huge level! Over the past 3 days I have been almost hit intentionally 3 times (I only rode 2 of those three days). It is the drivers of these luxury vehicles and pickup truck.

 

[turbodish]

Im not a fan of how the viewed it. They made it seem like riders are to blame; The cop talking about how riders are going too fast or riding outside their limits.

But in many cases it was in fact a matter of riders riding beyond their limits.

Global News analyzed Toronto Police Traffic Services records of fatal motorcycle accidents from May 1st, 1995 to May 31, 2011. There were a total of 45 accidents in that period. Of these, the motorcycle rider was at fault in 29 cases, almost always because of excessive speed.

Read it on Global News: Bayview Avenue most dangerous motorcycle ride in Toronto​

How can we hold car and truck drivers to any higher standard of driving performance when that of motorcycle riders is also so deficient?

I wish they would have talk more about cagers being aware of their surroundings and treat riders with more fking respect.

Don't forget that a very large portion of rider fatalities and injuries happen with no other vehicles present but the motorcycle by itself or in a group of other motorcycles. Where do you point the finger in those, but at ourselves?

Not to mention the $h!t condition of our Toronto roads. F U Global F U ! . . alright my morning rant is done =D

If the roads are bad, then slow down on them to a speed that permits you to handle those bad road conditions. That's pretty basic. If you insist on railing along on roads that you know to be bad, and you go down, then who is really to blame? How is it that so many people on motorcycles are in fact able to survive riding on our bad roads over thousands and thousands of miles without so much as a scratch on body or bike, yet others are constantly picking themselves and their bikes (or being picked up by others) over and over again?

 

[Nyx13]

Just last night I watched as 4 or 5 riders used the bicycle lane on Lakeshore to go flying past the line of cars and squeak their way into the line further ahead...and I don't mean carefully filtering even....I mean they went friggin' flying by! Riding like this is exactly why the stats are the way they are. We've all seen reckless riders out there, there's no way you can say there aren't any and that the stats aren't supported...or you've got your head up somewhere it shouldn't be. They think the rules of the road don't apply to them and they put not only themselves at risk but others as well. It's irresponsible, reckless and quite frankly, selfish. Time to suck it up and face facts, there are plenty of safe riders out there and there are plenty of good riders out there....but the two don't always go hand in hand. There are also always riders who ride beyond there capabilities...always have been, always will be. Sometimes crashing is how they find out they aren't as good as they thought they were.

 

[toysareforboys]

I don't believe she did anything wrong...

Did you see the accident pics? Where did she hit the truck? What lane was she in when she hit him?

-Jamie M.

 

[Rob MacLennan]

Yup, I recognized forum members in that too.

The first thing, that you have to realize, is that this was Global News. You know, the same 'news' agency that created a story, out of whole cloth, by parking an empty van around town and then made noises about how terrorists could do the same thing. Since then, I have simply refused to watch what they try to pass off as news. I also made sure to make my displeasure known to them, but the sad truth is that this garbage sells.

The piece was pure crap; sensationalism, without substance, as I've come to expect from them. As others have said so well, before me, "GASP! Motorcycles are DANGEROUS?!" Where is the explanation of why? Where is the call for paying attention, to both motorcyclists and passenger vehicle users? Where are the comments about using proper gear?

Crap. A sensationalist sound-bite. Worthless garbage.

 

[Cha0s00100]

You obviously haven't met Goldie.... we all know shes not to blame but she still feels like there was something she could have done

Hey Cat,
I think you misunderstood what I was saying. Personally I do know Goldie and Im just standing up for her. I know she could not have done anything, all I am trying to say is that they made no mention of what really happened and who was to blame. With all the police commentary involved they make it sound like she was to blame when it was no fault of her own.

 

[Nyx13]

Did you see the accident pics? Where did she hit the truck? What lane was she in when she hit him?

-Jamie M.

Jamie, I'm not quite sure why you are making this about Goldie and arguing with Cat... Some of know Goldie very well and have seen multiple pics and heard her personal account of the accident, etc. However, this story isn't about Goldie's accident specifically or who was 'right' or 'wrong' in the incident. Cat was simply correcting you in your mis-quote of her comment, now you choose to take issue with her comment again. What gives?

 

[Cha0s00100]

Just last night I watched as 4 or 5 riders used the bicycle lane on Lakeshore to go flying past the line of cars and squeak their way into the line further ahead...and I don't mean carefully filtering even....I mean they went friggin' flying by! Riding like this is exactly why the stats are the way they are. We've all seen reckless riders out there, there's no way you can say there aren't any and that the stats aren't supported...or you've got your head up somewhere it shouldn't be. They think the rules of the road don't apply to them and they put not only themselves at risk but others as well. It's irresponsible, reckless and quite frankly, selfish. Time to suck it up and face facts, there are plenty of safe riders out there and there are plenty of good riders out there....but the two don't always go hand in hand. There are also always riders who ride beyond there capabilities...always have been, always will be. Sometimes crashing is how they find out they aren't as good as they thought they were.

I agree fully, well said.

 

[toysareforboys]

Jamie, I'm not quite sure why you are making this about Goldie and arguing with Cat... Some of know Goldie very well and have seen multiple pics and heard her personal account of the accident, etc. However, this story isn't about Goldie's accident specifically or who was 'right' or 'wrong' in the incident. Cat was simply correcting you in your mis-quote of her comment, now you choose to take issue with her comment again. What gives?

Sorry, I did mis-interpret her original comment. I am done.

-Jamie M.

 

[Cat13]

Jamie, I'm not quite sure why you are making this about Goldie and arguing with Cat... Some of know Goldie very well and have seen multiple pics and heard her personal account of the accident, etc. However, this story isn't about Goldie's accident specifically or who was 'right' or 'wrong' in the incident. Cat was simply correcting you in your mis-quote of her comment, now you choose to take issue with her comment again. What gives?

Thank you

Agreed with you too. There are the riders out there that do the stupid crap. I've seen them you've seen them. We've all had at least one biker we've come acrossed where the words "holy $#@%" (or some variation) comes out our mouths.

We all know the cagers are out to kill us, we know there are silly riders, we know the roads are ****. Why are we surprised when we get cut off etc. I honestly take to the highway and watch the cars around me just waiting for them to cut me off, when they dont I'm happy. Take that tactic to all the roads and I am sure the incidents drop dramatically.

 

[Cha0s00100]

Thank you

Agreed with you too. There are the riders out there that do the stupid crap. I've seen them you've seen them. We've all had at least one biker we've come acrossed where the words "holy $#@%" (or some variation) comes out our mouths.

We all know the cagers are out to kill us, we know there are silly riders, we know the roads are ****. Why are we surprised when we get cut off etc. I honestly take to the highway and watch the cars around me just waiting for them to cut me off, when they dont I'm happy. Take that tactic to all the roads and I am sure the incidents drop dramatically.

This is so true. Another option would be to move to Cali =D Cagers treat riders with respect since most ride and splitting is legal ! Car's actually move to the side so you can pass them.

 

[rafiki911]

This is so true. Another option would be to move to Cali =D Cagers treat riders with respect since most ride and splitting is legal ! Car's actually move to the side so you can pass them.

I don't know if I'd trust our drivers with lane splitting, if that ever became legal here I would wait years before ever doing it. We need filtering at the very least.

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