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Very upsetting global news segment

Brodie_laj

Brodie_laj

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Hey Everyone, i just want to rant a little bit about a global news segment i just saw... it was there top story, the story was about the 'dangers of riding motorcycle' first off they start the video off very poorly by talking about motorcycles and death (right away puts a bad image on motorcycles) then they talk about where the most common area for motorcycle deaths are in Toronto and say how it is because that is a nice section of road and motorcycles go too fast blah blah blah... not once throughout the whole report do they mention about the car drivers that turn left in front of us and cut us off... they don't even say anything like watch out for motorcycles as the nice weather is here and we are on the road in full force.... the whole time it is just bad stuff, 1 more reason for the car drivers to give us no respect on the road... they make motorcycles look bad


I just thought this was a very poorly put together report (and WHY the tops story???)
heres the link to the video, what is your opinions?
[video]http://www.globaltoronto.com/video/index.html?releasePID=cM9Bx_BuG43Cn_XpPJjBLwdATvr7 wOXj[/video]
 
Unfortunately, while a big push for road awareness and a campaign for making car drivers understand the safety issues for riders needs to be undertaken, that's not the focus of this story... The story was about the stats and the 2 most dangerous areas for fatalities. I'm pretty sure their not pulling stats out of their butts as far as the investigations and reasons for the crashes...and lets be honest...a lot of the riders booking down those roads for fun ARE speeding and many of them are losing control of their bikes. At least they're bring an awareness to fact we are more vunerable on bikes than someone in a car. They made that pretty clear with Goldie's example.

I personally know most of the people that provided information and interviews for the story...I can guarantee they did their best to point those issues out...however, that wasn't the focus for the story...so it's not surprising Global didn't put anything of the sort in.
 
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I don't have a problem with the story.

Remember, the news always tells negative stories. Nobody cares if 10,000 rides got home safely, they only care about the ones that crash and get hurt.
 
i understand that the point of the story was not about motorcycle road awareness, but to have a top story that does nothing except for talk trash about motorcycles is just absolutely useless... we as motorcyclists already know the dangers and this story did nothing except put a bad name on us (to the car driver with no relation to a motorcyclist)
 
I didn't see it as trash talking us at all actually.... I thought it was informative and as I mentioned, it made the point quite clear that whether by our own stupidity or others...we are at risk on the roads. Maybe some people will consider that and keep it in mind the next time they are driving their car around bikes :)
 
I thought it was sorta placing blame on the riders..

Truthfully, cagers are blind *** ignorant to bikers..
How about road awareness for US ? or is that what was implied by the earlier poster ?
 
Nyx13 said:
I didn't see it as trash talking us at all actually.... I thought it was informative and as I mentioned, it made the point quite clear that whether by our own stupidity or others...we are at risk on the roads. Maybe some people will consider that and keep it in mind the next time they are driving their car around bikes :)
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well i hope they will consider that and be more careful around us but i just thought it was ridiculous that there was no mention of the left turners and what not (left turner being the leading cause of motorcyclist fatality) and to have a story about that but not even give a quick reminder at the end of the report to watch for us is pretty pathetic if you ask me
 
brodie_laj said:
well i hope they will consider that and be more careful around us but i just thought it was ridiculous that there was no mention of the left turners and what not (left turner being the leading cause of motorcyclist fatality) and to have a story about that but not even give a quick reminder at the end of the report to watch for us is pretty pathetic if you ask me
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exactly! +1
 
Brodie_laj said:
what is your opinions?
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Waaaah waaaah waaaah

If you think the news ever gives a complete and balanced perspective on any topic you need to refresh your media savvy. Nothing they said was factually incorrect and if they were purposely trying to make us look bad they could have done much, much, very much worse. Bikers and cagers are all equaly as stupid, this time the bikers were singled out, that really shouldn't be a problem... it's the truth.
 
Brodie_laj said:
well i hope they will consider that and be more careful around us but i just thought it was ridiculous that there was no mention of the left turners and what not (left turner being the leading cause of motorcyclist fatality) and to have a story about that but not even give a quick reminder at the end of the report to watch for us is pretty pathetic if you ask me
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While left-turners are a recurring issue, I'm not all that convinced that they are the "leading" cause of motorcycle fatalities. From the Global article and based on Toronto Police collision reports:
Global News analyzed Toronto Police Traffic Services records of fatal motorcycle accidents from May 1st, 1995 to May 31, 2011. There were a total of 45 accidents in that period. Of these, the motorcycle rider was at fault in 29 cases, almost always because of excessive speed.

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That's over 64% of Toronto motorcycle fatalities in the last 16 years in which the motorcycle rider (and not some left-turner) was determined to be at fault. That to me suggests that the majority of motorcycle fatalities could be eliminated if riders themselves got their house in order, particularly as far as excessive speed is concerned.
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Many of the people talking in the video are from this site.
 
I wanna see stats on scooters vs 125 to 600cc vs 600+. If scooter riders are being killed at the same frequency it can hardly be attributed to speeds.
 
Newsflash: Motorcycle riding is dangerous, full story at 6.
 
Nyx13 said:
I didn't see it as trash talking us at all actually.... I thought it was informative and as I mentioned, it made the point quite clear that whether by our own stupidity or others...we are at risk on the roads. Maybe some people will consider that and keep it in mind the next time they are driving their car around bikes :)
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I agree! Quite frankly I get tired of the cager-bashing. As riders, *we* need to ride as defensively as possible. I'm sure there are a few people on this forum who also drive a car. Are you "out to kill motorcyclists too"? I'm certainly not!

I was driving from Hamilton to Burlington yesterday on the QEW (just before 6 p.m.). My cousin was with me. A guy on a motorcycle (sportsbike, red t-shirt) was riding (what I considered) dangerously and recklessly. Out of nowhere, he even cut into my lane from the left. Then he quickly cut back over to take the left exit onto Hwy 6. This guy was riding as though he were on a racing track instead of a public highway. It was disgusting to see.
 
RetroGrouch said:
Newsflash: Motorcycle riding is dangerous, full story at 6.
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Exactly, and there is no way around that, Blame cagers all you want, but being out there on a bike is totally unnecessary, there are far safer, and less expensive ways to get around. The story is just stating facts, But the real fact is, your bike is capable of doing things YOU cannot handle, It can out-drive you in a split second. You can push it a 1000 times, and get away with it, then bam. We all need to ride thinking two steps ahead of everything we do, and what that cager might do. In the end we have no one to blame but ourselves, no one is forcing us to ride a bike.
 
I thought it was really well done.Bikes and some bike riders are dangerous.If you cannot accept this fact,get out now.The three GTAM riders did a really good job of representing us.Especially Goldie!
Imho Brodie,you owe our peeps an apology.
 
Unfortunately, there will always be those who need to learn the hard way - it's experience. I prefer to learn from others mistakes. Riding a motorcycle has inherent risks - small, hard to see, etc and no shell, crumple zones, seat belts or airbags to protect you. Most other motorists expect a a uniform and stable flow of traffic. If their perception is already affected, operating outside of their expectations is only going to exacerbate the risk. Is it difficult to understand why speeding motorcyclists have a high fatality rate.
 
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