vehicles passing on the right in my own lane

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This morning, I exited the 401 at Dixie. I'm in the right most lane, waiting to turn north. I'm facing a red; I'm waiting for a gap in traffic. I like to stay in the left tire track, rather than hug the curb.
I see a gap in traffic and I'm about to make the right turn. A quick glance over my shoulder found a SUV right beside me. I flipped the guy off and continued the turn.
The guy pulled up beside me at the next light and was motioning with his hands. I couldn't hear what he was saying but it looked like something to do with gap and distance and what not.
I told him he can't pass me on the right, in my own lane. The entire lane is for me and he can't share it and pass me on the right.
he continued with his mumbled speech, I once again said he can't pass on the right.
He finally went "ok ok ok" and gave me a little wave of defeat.
The light went green and I away I went.

This same scenario happened last week as well. I'm not leaving a huge gap for cars to pass, but I'm trying to maintain somewhat of a blocking position.

It's difficult to block cars when there is room for three, but the lane is only marked for one at highway off ramps.
 
I hear you. Been in the same situation as well when you are going through and they want to turn and they are waving you to move over so they can turn. if you were in a car they wouldn't pull that crap! lol
 
You gotta move to the right tire track when waiting to turn right. Vice versa for left. Not too close to the curb.
 
PhinX404 said:
I hear you. Been in the same situation as well when you are going through and they want to turn and they are waving you to move over so they can turn. if you were in a car they wouldn't pull that crap! lol
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If I'm going straight, I'll usually move over a little so cars can pass right to turn right. Depends - as long as it's not a tight squeeze, if so, I'll stay in a good block lane position.
 
matthew said:
I told him he can't pass me on the right, in my own lane. The entire lane is for me and he can't share it and pass me on the right.
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You need to adjust your blocking position to suit the turn you are about to make at an intersection. And yes, the entire lane is for you, and not for lane-splitting or filtering motorcycles and trucks.
 
matthew said:
This same scenario happened last week as well. I'm not leaving a huge gap for cars to pass, but I'm trying to maintain somewhat of a blocking position.
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The right blocking position is the position that blocks people from taking space in your lane next to you. That does not always mean the left tire track or the right tire track, but the position that gets the job done for the current circumstances.
 
From the google maps photo, I would've stopped in the center of where that jetta was driving thru, notwithstanding potential oil zone. With my right signal on. Yes, there's still room for vehicles to pass on the left, but I wouldn't dilly-dally there...
 
matthew said:
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If I did that, the vehicle would have come up on my left.

Look at the Google Streetview image for the right most lane. It's wide enough for three vehicles

https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.6496...JTwq5dP757c2UDhk8Ing!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en


It's a Kobayashi Maru; a no-win scenario.
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With you sitting to the left in that lane, he could rationalize to himself or others that you are not turning right (turn signals or lane designation regardless), and that you are intentionally leaving room for him to get by you.

If you shift more to the right (not all the way, but enough to block a vehicle from getting to your right) then the other vehicle would have had to take the LONG way around you rather than an easy inside nip and tuck. More distance to travel, much more obvious that he is doing a maneuver he shouldn't, and impossible to rationalize or argue otherwise.
 
There's nowhere to go but right.

I made the mistake of assuming people know what they're doing and how to drive.
 
matthew said:
There's nowhere to go but right.
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Maybe YOU know that, but if you leave a big wide space to your right, you open a driving path for another who either doesn't know that, or who might think that YOU don't know that, or who will just be opportunistic and take advantage of the opening anyways.
 
I have no doubt that car drivers do this based on a simple excuse.
There's enough room for me to fit there so I can pass on the right.
 
It's not just cars/suvs. Another rider tried to do this when I was turning right in downtown Toronto. He was in the right track, I was in the left (correct lane position) but he totally ignored my space and almost collided with me when I went to make my turn, and he was surprised.

Like wtf dude pay attention.
 
iegod said:
It's not just cars/suvs. Another rider tried to do this when I was turning right in downtown Toronto. He was in the right track, I was in the left (correct lane position) but he totally ignored my space and almost collided with me when I went to make my turn, and he was surprised.

Like wtf dude pay attention.
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The left tire track is not the correct position in all situations. That may be what they teach at various courses, and is a good baseline, but real-world situations are not always black and white. The correct lane position is the one that prevents others from encroaching on the space you need to be safe. If you're making a right turn you're better off protecting your right-side (the inside line) and giving up some extra space to your left. People are less likely to go wide to get around you, but if they see an opening on the inside line they'll be more apt to take it.
 
Same thing in Ancaster, only for me, I'm intending to go straight and leave enough room for someone to turn right. Twice now I've had someone pull up beside me and go through the intersection with me, as though there was a 3rd lane. Quite unnerving the first time it happened. Second time I just used more throttle to get myself out of the situation.
 
Better to be safe then sorry.

On right turns I already move to the center/close to the right tire track to block any ahole who wants to squeeze beside me.
On left turns I do the sane but center/close to the left tire track to block a car from squeezing in beside me.

If its a single lane each way and I'm at a stop sign/light again I'll block any ahole who tries to squeeze in.

It's a fact, most people don't know how to judge their bumpers and mirrors and the worst thing that could happen is they tap you and throw you off your bike.
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