We are just having a discussion that a bike at that price should have fully adjustable suspension, front and back. It has zero to do with chicken strips or shaving of 0.2s from light to light ... I guess you were joking there, right?
well, i said "lap times", not "light to light". And not really joking. Same as i don't really need dual 6 piston calipers - dual 4 piston do quite nicely.
Unless your body falls into the largest demographics group, you do need to adjust suspension.
Yep. But as someone else said - stock suspension adjustments are *also* in a range made for the largest demographic.
If you don't, you are loosing, big time ... granted, not if you go from Timmies to Timmies ... LOL
*losing. Granted, if you're on the track. On the other hand, i've been known be be in a *terrible* rush to get my Timmies.
BTW, my comment about BMW vs Husky was about suspension (I thought it was obvious) not the engine. The engine is fine as is (except for the vibration at hwy speed, but I am nitpicking now ...), but I'll be honest, more usable power at lower weight is always a good news in my book.
You really think the Husq is going to be less expensive than the BMW? You're going to pay for that extra poseur-faire.
BMW Toronto..new, previous year model with no options. But I didn't pull the trigger. I had to negotiate that price, that's not list.
I see ... everytime (several times) I asked them about price it was hovering around 12K with heated grips.
That price for no options (i'm assuming that means none of what they usually order for the CDN market, being abs, computer, and heated grips) is list - 499 for the 2010 model year, which was $9999 with no options. Which you can certainly order, but they'd much rather sell you something they have in stock, which has the above, at around $12k.
The point is that the competition gives both adjustable inverted forks and radial brakes for the same money or less. BMW skimped on the equipment. Whether you need it or would notice a difference (I certainly would) is meaningless. Even if I have 2" chicken strips on my tires I'd still want more value for my dollar than what BMW is offering.
It's kind of important that you add "perceived" to "value" there. You perceive a value in inverted forks/radial brakes (again, radial brakes were implemented to correct a *problem* with using inverted forks, get over them already) and to me they're addressing a problem i don't have - needing less unsprung weight on the front wheel. non-inverted forks are less complicated, less prone to twisting stresses from braking, and will just generally last longer.
It's cheap, it's outdated, and it's ugly. BMW, as usual, charges more for less.
Oh please. I'll then assume you're buying a Prius then because internal combustion is just *so* last century, and 4 wheels *must* be better than 2.
Then again, perhaps the extra money is for the wet clutch you can slip without burning up.
