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kamper said:
I'm selling my 2011 250R, which I bought new from Snow City. I took it to Two Wheel in Guelph for the safety and they failed me, which surprised me. I wonder if anyone can comment on some of their claims?

  • throttle cable is routed incorrectly
  • missing rear side reflectors
  • headlight aim is too high
Aside from the possibility that I lost the reflectors (although I don't think I did), these all seem strange to me because they should have come properly set up from the factory. Is Two Wheel making stuff up? Did Snow City somehow mess up the bike setup?

  • play in rear linkage
They claim a couple of parts will need to be replaced and it'll cost a few hundred. The bike has only been gently ridden for around 7500 km. Does it seem reasonable that they'd need to be replaced already?

Aside from that, they claim that the steering head is loose and the rear axle is not aligned, which seem to me like plausible wear and tear. I'm assuming that isn't too difficult to fix.

Anyway, I'm trying to decide if I should pay Two Wheel to do the repairs or get a second opinion. Apparently riding the bike far will mean I have to pay to have it resafetied if Two Wheel does the work, and I also want to get this done quickly if possible because the buyer has been waiting a while already. I'm not interested in getting a not-too-thorough safety cert if there is actually anything wrong with the bike, but at the same time, I don't want to get hosed by Two Wheel if they're being overly picky for the sake of drumming up service work.
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Is the new buyer aware of these problems?
 
MarcosSantiago said:
I'm not sure these problems actually exist in the first place. Why tell the buyer now? Get the bike inspected by another shop.
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So you think the shop made up ALL of them?

Just go so ted, you don't even need to bring your bike :lmao:

Like magic, problems no longer exist. OP doesn't have to spend any extra money and let the "new owner" worry about it. After all its just a stranger's safety, who cares...:rolleyes:


I find it hilarious that when guys are looking to buy a bike they're concerned about every aspect of it, but when they're selling it all of the sudden the shop is being too strict. Why not just pay em an hour's worth of labour to correct the problems and move on, 60-90 bucks extra? How do you people sleep at night?
 
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I think they're BS'ing you so they can make some money...lots of places will try to rip someone off if they think they have the chance. GO somewhere else, they are full of ****.
 
Sure, if the tires are old, worn and cracking, the brakes are leaking, fuel is leaking etc, sure, those are major hazards that need to be addressed and no-one here would be saying anything about that.

headlight aimed too high? really? how does that impact the safety of THAT vehicle? Hod did they test it? Did they have 300lbs joe blow sit on it and go "yup, rear end sagged, aiming too high...."

Every single one of those are BS make up jobs or cannot be disputed by a customer on the spot...AKA $$$ in their pocket for them to fix it.

BrianP has nailed it on the head.

Paul1000RR said:
So you think the shop made up ALL of them?

Just go so ted, you don't even need to bring your bike :lmao:

Like magic, problems no longer exist. OP doesn't have to spend any extra money and let the "new owner" worry about it. After all its just a stranger's safety, who cares...:rolleyes:


I find it hilarious that when guys are looking to buy a bike they're concerned about every aspect of it, but when they're selling it all of the sudden the shop is being too strict. Why not just pay em an hour's worth of labour to correct the problems and move on, 60-90 bucks extra? How do you people sleep at night?
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just to add, If Ted knowns you are selling the bike he will go through it thoroughly. My fiancee was selling her ZZR250 and he spent 30 min on it, even rode it around the block to make sure it rides good. I changed the rear pads as they were too far down for him, so unless you got first hand experience of him fudging a safety on a vehicle you are SELLING, STFU.
 
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Paul1000RR said:
So you think the shop made up ALL of them?

Just go so ted, you don't even need to bring your bike :lmao:

Like magic, problems no longer exist. OP doesn't have to spend any extra money and let the "new owner" worry about it. After all its just a stranger's safety, who cares...:rolleyes:


I find it hilarious that when guys are looking to buy a bike they're concerned about every aspect of it, but when they're selling it all of the sudden the shop is being too strict. Why not just pay em an hour's worth of labour to correct the problems and move on, 60-90 bucks extra? How do you people sleep at night?
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Honestly. yes, I think they made them up.
I cannot know for sure, and I am not accusing the mechanic of anything, but I think they made them up. All of them.

It is not 60 dollars we are talking here. The OP wrote "They claim a couple of parts will need to be replaced and it'll cost a few hundred".

Anywho... Why would anyone charge a few hundred dollars to correct these things?
 
Paul1000RR said:
Is the new buyer aware of these problems?
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Yes. The buyer is a good family friend with whom I want to be honest. I was supposed to deliver the bike to her after getting the safety on Saturday, so I had to explain to her then why she couldn't have it yet anyway.

Red_Liner740 said:
just to add, If Ted knowns you are selling the bike he will go through it thoroughly.
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I'm assuming we're talking about Rosey Toes here? I've never been there, but was thinking about going there based on the good reviews of his work that I've read in these forums. I figure that aside from getting him to do the safety, I'd specifically ask him to look at the list of things Two Wheel failed and if he says they're fine, then I have some reassurance. If he says they're not, then I know they do actually have to be fixed.
 
Red_Liner740 said:
Sure, if the tires are old, worn and cracking, the brakes are leaking, fuel is leaking etc, sure, those are major hazards that need to be addressed and no-one here would be saying anything about that.

headlight aimed too high? really? how does that impact the safety of THAT vehicle? Hod did they test it? Did they have 300lbs joe blow sit on it and go "yup, rear end sagged, aiming too high...."

Every single one of those are BS make up jobs or cannot be disputed by a customer on the spot...AKA $$$ in their pocket for them to fix it.

BrianP has nailed it on the head.



just to add, If Ted knowns you are selling the bike he will go through it thoroughly. My fiancee was selling her ZZR250 and he spent 30 min on it, even rode it around the block to make sure it rides good. I changed the rear pads as they were too far down for him, so unless you got first hand experience of him fudging a safety on a vehicle you are SELLING, STFU.
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Yes i do in fact have first hand experience of him writing a safety on a bike that was not present and i was selling. Am i a hypocrite? No, i was selling a bike to a good friend and we simply needed a safety in order to register the bike in his name. We both knew the safety was as good as a child's drawing on a napkin just like most people here do as well.

And i will not be STFU :D
 
kamper said:
Yes. The buyer is a good family friend with whom I want to be honest. I was supposed to deliver the bike to her after getting the safety on Saturday, so I had to explain to her then why she couldn't have it yet anyway.



I'm assuming we're talking about Rosey Toes here? I've never been there, but was thinking about going there based on the good reviews of his work that I've read in these forums. I figure that aside from getting him to do the safety, I'd specifically ask him to look at the list of things Two Wheel failed and if he says they're fine, then I have some reassurance. If he says they're not, then I know they do actually have to be fixed.
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Glad to hear you're not pulling a goggles600 here :D
 
Milton isn't that far from you. Few good options there. Search this forum, Adrian can help you out.
 
kamper said:
I'm assuming we're talking about Rosey Toes here? I've never been there, but was thinking about going there based on the good reviews of his work that I've read in these forums. I figure that aside from getting him to do the safety, I'd specifically ask him to look at the list of things Two Wheel failed and if he says they're fine, then I have some reassurance. If he says they're not, then I know they do actually have to be fixed.
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Yes, a lot of people dont like his down to earth, says it how it is, farts and belches approach. Its a mask, if he knows you are knowledgable or willing to learn he will take a moment and explain how something works or give you a tip or hint on the best way to fix something.

Yes, hes not a stickler for details, details you and i both know are nothing more than paper crimes. If he truly believed a bike was not road worthy he wouldnt give the safety out. I've seen it first hand, a guy rolled in and wanted a safety....where's the bike? Oh i was told i dont need to bring it...."Bring the bike and we'll talk"

In the end, you will have guys like Paul1000 who will take the benefit of a lax safety but then come here and cry about it. Keep that up and we'll have nothing but shops that bend customers over.
 
Red_Liner740 said:
In the end, you will have guys like Paul1000 who will take the benefit of a lax safety but then come here and cry about it. Keep that up and we'll have nothing but shops that bend customers over.
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The guy (paul1000rr) publicly admits asking someone to commit something that is illegal. What a smart guy he is.
 
find the diagram of where the cable is suppose to go and re-route it.
slap on a feflector, i think i have 2 spare ones off my cbr, but rim tape is also a reflector and legally counts.... just FYI.
and the headlight aim is dependant on who is sitting on the bike at the time kinda.. but if the do it unweighted,, then ya just aim it lower than it has to be. only law is aimed too high.
 
smergy said:
with regards to the reflectors:

"two red reflectors facing rearwards placed at the widest part of the vehicle, as far apart as practical, to indicate width. "
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EaZ8 said:
slap on a feflector, i think i have 2 spare ones off my cbr, but rim tape is also a reflector and legally counts.... just FYI.
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One of you is obviously wrong here, I am inclined to believe Smergy as he provided a quote. Rim taps places the reflector as close as possible to the centreline of the bike, not the widest part. Also, the quote smergy has says "facing rearwards", rim tape will be invisible from the rear of the bike. Smergy's quote seems to be regarding a car, but it seems like a reasonable test in the absence of better information.
 
Two Wheel is known for ripping people off on safeties. The general consensus I've heard is maybe buy gear there when it's on sale. Maybe a bike if it's cheap. Never go there for any work.
 
Red_Liner740 said:
Yes, a lot of people dont like his down to earth, says it how it is, farts and belches approach. Its a mask, if he knows you are knowledgable or willing to learn he will take a moment and explain how something works or give you a tip or hint on the best way to fix something.

Yes, hes not a stickler for details, details you and i both know are nothing more than paper crimes. If he truly believed a bike was not road worthy he wouldnt give the safety out. I've seen it first hand, a guy rolled in and wanted a safety....where's the bike? Oh i was told i dont need to bring it...."Bring the bike and we'll talk"

In the end, you will have guys like Paul1000 who will take the benefit of a lax safety but then come here and cry about it. Keep that up and we'll have nothing but shops that bend customers over.
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Who's crying about anything?

I simply said go and do it like majority of the people with a sarcastic tone...

Then you jump in to defend ted and tell me to STFU if i dont know what im talking about.
I explained to you that in fact i do know what im talking about and seen it first hand and instead of saying "well then, didnt know that" you start with childish insults.
 
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