Trying to find a new job - My story so far...

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Sounds like you're doing this right. Might I suggest for a different approach that a lot of people in their 30s are doing. When being laid off or leaving due to work stress they stop looking for jobs and start looking at being their own boss. One of the more preferred route they take is through a franchisee that is already setup and has systems in place. They re-invest the capital they've earned and work like crazy to build up their new business. You're the type of person most franchises prefer as someone who isn't too old and still hungry with experience that will drive their business.

One of the best things I did was turn away my job and told them I won't be returning. You work a lot more, but after a while you can sit back and relax. If you have any questions or want some info feel free to PM me.
 
Jampy00 said:
Very good point, I have written several covering the area's of business I am looking to get into. I thne allow laods of room to modify each one to suit the specific position.

Funny, about 5 minutes after I typed my original post, I got a call. Now that makes two hopefully this one goes somewhere.
I have also included reference on my resume, of course I have notified all of them of my intentions and they have all agreed. I was a reference for many of them.

The industry I am in is indutrial sales, namely pneumatics and other industrial products. I have experience in customer service, project management, technical lead and quality assurance.
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I dont include references, if they are interested they will ask for them.
 
murf said:
Define make it?
Is it really the only way?
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I guess "make it" would vary from person to person.
For me it's just a bigger cheque.

So if you're satisfied with making $50K/year then you've already "made it" where you'd like to be in life and that's fine.
 
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murf said:
Define make it?
Is it really the only way?
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as Mina says making it will depend on each person differently...some are happy with 30k/yr and some are unhappy until they make 300k/yr.

personally I'm also in a weird situation because my company is closing down and it's time to start looking before my end of year firing but I'd like to explore something I could do solo. I have 6 months but can't decide WHAT it is I can do or want to do. I've written proposals for the last 8 years of my life and need to figure how to monetize that on my own..

anyway sorry to thread jack. As for the op...it's a numbers game. Tailor your résumé and cv to each job specifically and go for that. The more you get out there the better the chance. Network network network at every opportunity. The only calls I got back so far are via the people I know who got my cv to the top of the list.

Good luck and keep us posted.
 
Mina said:
I guess "make it" would vary from person to person.
For me it's just a bigger cheque.

So if you're satisfied with making $50K/year then you've already "made it" where you'd like to be in life and that's fine.
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So the guys working for the big banks downtown making millions a year are ok, doctors making $400K a year are ok even though they dont have their own business?
 
murf said:
I dont include references, if they are interested they will ask for them.
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I did not until recently, the feedback I have received has been positive. I'm doing what ever keeps the hiring process in motion.

Looking for a job has become my 2nd fulltime job..
 
murf said:
So the guys working for the big banks downtown making millions a year are ok, doctors making $400K a year are ok even though they dont have their own business?
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I thought we were talking about the average Joe here. If you're making 6 figures, it doesn't really matter whether you work for someone or not...
 
Mina said:
I thought we were talking about the average Joe here. If you're making 6 figures, it doesn't really matter whether you work for someone or not...
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The few doctor's I know are all self incorporated and work in several locations, so even though it seems like they're working for someone, they're really working for themselves.

Even the guys in the financial industry work primarily for themselves because of the bonus and incentive structure of financial products. Only the handful that are senior directors and ceo's are the outliers, similar to the ticket collector that clears 6 figs.

Finding a job, to work, is easy. Finding a career, that's the hard bit. OP is the latter.
 
I would consider myself a "average Joe" if we had to classify. I don't earn 6 figures (have come close a few years)
I forme my main issue is as follows (trust me I have spent countless night thinking about this)

I am currently trapped in what I call middle ground or no mans land. I am to young (in some cases) to apply for the really big jobs even though I may posses the needed qualifcations and I am to old to be considered "hip" my many of the younger organizations out there. So trying to find that happy place is becoming more difficult. This is why I chose to refresh my education this year ( out of my own pocket to boot ) but somehow no one seems to read that far down the resume now-a-days.

I am just trying to stay focused on the task at hand, find a new job and turn it into a career. I have no warm and fuzzies about where I am currently and I have learned to trust my gut, it's down me pretty good so far. Thanks for all the advise and the few contacts sent via PM I have followed up on all of them, it's great to see this community come together with sound helpful advise.
 
What industry are you ? When I was laid off from my job (I was in the IT industry) I went to alot of job fairs to talk to recruiters. I ended up with ALOT of interviews. I ended up changing my industry from IT to Business. This was just a random resume I sent into the company website.
 
chiller said:
What industry are you ? When I was laid off from my job (I was in the IT industry) I went to alot of job fairs to talk to recruiters. I ended up with ALOT of interviews. I ended up changing my industry from IT to Business. This was just a random resume I sent into the company website.
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The industry I am in is indutrial sales, namely pneumatics and other industrial products. I have experience in customer service, project management, technical lead and quality assurance.
 
TL: DR - NETWORK, use LinkedIn 'friend' radio button, have coffees/meetings with as many people as you can. Workolopolis/Monster SUCK.

I'm in a different industry than you, however went through a downsizing last year and was in the market for a job in January.

The only advice I can give you is - LinkedIn/Networking. Monster, Workopolis = useless. Half the time I feel like the jobs on there are fake, posted up by recruiters simply to siphon in resumes. And you never get a call back.

LinkedIn is amazing. You can connect to ANYONE, inside or outside your network. Don't bother with the premium account, you can reach out to anyone by choosing the 'friend' radio button. You get something like 200 words for an introduction, easily enough to say hey I'm interested in your job and company, let's have a coffee. I messaged 5-10 people PER DAY, and would just focus on that to get contacts. LinkedIn is great because you can get so granular in your search - particular companies, jobs, POSITIONS you want. It's awesome.

My current job I found through a contact, previous colleague. Wasn't posted, two EASY interviews later, I was employed. Promoted 6 months later, etc. etc.

NETWORK, it's the ONLY WAY.
 
I agree with estone. Networking is the best tool to get hired. Maybe even going to a head hunter that specializes in your industry would be a good idea. Also a good word put in by a contact goes a long way. Having met you in the past I don't think it's lack of interpersonal or people skills but perhaps just a lack of jobs in your industry.

In regards to being your own boss it's a tough and long process. There is no guarantee's in any business. I had a comfortable 6 figure salary at a major company but a change in management always brings changes. I was pushed out because of restructuring. I mean I only showed 200% growth in sales over previous year. lol. And I am talking taking my territory sales from 18 - almost 40 Million. It means nothing when your new Boss wants to bring in his old team from his previous company. That's when I decided to start my own business and it has been a long and hard road but if you have a good plan and confidence in yourself you can do well for yourself. I hate being micro managed by someone half as qualified as me and brown nosing is not in my nature. That is almost a requirement to hold on to a job nowadays. lol. The key really is finding a job that you enjoy. So on a Sunday evening you look forward to going to work Monday morning. I would say this is very rare. Just have confidence in yourself and I am sure you will find something you will enjoy and be good at. And I do have you in mind as we get bigger as a company. :) Keep your head up and spirits high. You will do awesome.
 
Jimmy,

You know you need me and thank you for those kind words and keeping me in your business thoughts. I agree networking is key that is why I posted on this forum not one person mentioned that yet it has worked and I have started to form some new legit contacts. I will use every resource I can to get to where I want to go. it is a very bumpy road as I am sure many of us know, I was not born into money and started working at 11yrs old, making 125 bucks every 2 weeks for close to 90 hours of work during the summer months. Only last year I took my first real vacation I have never been out of work longer than two months. Some one told me a PM that not every company wants change even when it does them good, let me tell you I know that feeling well.

Velocity Sportsgear said:
I agree with estone. Networking is the best tool to get hired. Maybe even going to a head hunter that specializes in your industry would be a good idea. Also a good word put in by a contact goes a long way. Having met you in the past I don't think it's lack of interpersonal or people skills but perhaps just a lack of jobs in your industry.

In regards to being your own boss it's a tough and long process. There is no guarantee's in any business. I had a comfortable 6 figure salary at a major company but a change in management always brings changes. I was pushed out because of restructuring. I mean I only showed 200% growth in sales over previous year. lol. And I am talking taking my territory sales from 18 - almost 40 Million. It means nothing when your new Boss wants to bring in his old team from his previous company. That's when I decided to start my own business and it has been a long and hard road but if you have a good plan and confidence in yourself you can do well for yourself. I hate being micro managed by someone half as qualified as me and brown nosing is not in my nature. That is almost a requirement to hold on to a job nowadays. lol. The key really is finding a job that you enjoy. So on a Sunday evening you look forward to going to work Monday morning. I would say this is very rare. Just have confidence in yourself and I am sure you will find something you will enjoy and be good at. And I do have you in mind as we get bigger as a company. :) Keep your head up and spirits high. You will do awesome.
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LMAO! You could do that if you started bacj in the 80's. Now, good luck to even getting your feet wet. There is SO much government regulation that you'll surely fail in your first year if running a company.


Mina said:
The only way to make it is to start your own business.
You can only get so far working for someone else.
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BLUE_KAWI said:
LMAO! You could do that if you started bacj in the 80's. Now, good luck to even getting your feet wet. There is SO much government regulation that you'll surely fail in your first year if running a company.
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I agree with the former statement, not so much the latter.
If you know what you're doing, you can make it happen.
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