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Tired of my racist, narcissistic, misogynist coworker

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I am speaking about a person of authority that I am lateral to. We do not report to each other but work together and even though I have a vast amount more experience in the industry, ultimately her decision is final. I am fine with this as it is her feet that will be held to the fire.

She will often say that she makes her decisions based on facts and numbers when the reality is that the decisions are almost exclusively based on her emotional state at the time. No one is perfect and to be honest, I do not envy her position. In fact, I was offered her job many times and refused it because I know that the job is not a good fit for me personally.

Over the years, she has displayed what I feel is deplorable behaviour. I have made notes of these instances as I have witnessed her throwing others under the bus when reporting to the executive branch.

To be totally truthful, I have also grown a bit tired of the organization and how they deal with issues day to day. We were very fortunate during the beginning of COVID as our industry grew enormously. This unrealistic and unsustainable growth has become the benchmark and it is clear that those that I do report to are under pressure to keep the pace. This trickle down is adding unnecessary stress on the whole and I am not alone in how I feel about this. I am taking a 'grass is not greener' approach to this and really try my best to disconnect when not at work. I am really struggling to try to disconnect on a whole.

The one thing I do struggle with most often is my coworkers general attitude. You see, we are a separate entity from the corporation and pretty well run as an independent so most of my day to day stressors are this unpleasant individual.

It is genuinely like being in high school where the captain of the cheerleading squad determines who is cool enough to be in her clique. I do not give a flying **** about this particular popularity contest and for the most part the rest of the people there don't either. They are pretty good about seeing through the charade.

What really gets to me is the misogyny, racism and blatant narcissism. SHE refuses to interview or hire people for positions that she feels are male dominant roles. We all know that no such thing exists and I often take her to task on this. I point out that our competitors have predominantly female workforces along with other obvious "hard" jobs that are always being performed by anyone with a will. She looks at me, rolls her eyes and insists that it would not work out in our walls.

She has often made outlandish racist comments and shows a real dislike for people from Asia. If another woman in our organization is acknowledged for a job well done, she loses her mind. If a man is acknowledged, it's a "boys club".

I really need a way out of this company. I have almost 3 decades in and don't want to up and quit without some kind of package. I am not a spring chicken and landing in a role where I earn similarly would not be easy.

How the hell do I get out with decent package? HR folks, please weigh in.
 
Don’t know about your question but why not sign her up for a subscription to an Asian porn magazine with instructions to leave the magazine unwrapped at the end of the driveway. Won’t help but may be satisfying.
 
Literally everyone is hiring right now for every position. EI and welfare should actually be abandoned, there's currently no need for them.
 
EI and welfare should actually be abandoned, there's currently no need for them.

Will I get a refund of all the premiums I've put into the Employment Insurance policy I've been contributing to?
 
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Can't help on the HR side, but I recently made a job change after 16 years due primarily to one individual and a manager who refused to deal with them. A culture of blame had started with this person and spread, with arse-covering taking root. Almost everyone spent as much time making sure they had plausible deniability or a scapegoat lined up than they did actually doing their jobs. I wasn't targeted, but some very good but guileless people were blamed relentlessly, and it made going to work a miserable experience.

I wasn't aware of how unhappy I was until I made the change. The new group couldn't be more different, with a collective approach and mutually supportive atmosphere. Going to work is now a joy again, not something I have to psyche myself up for. My only regret is not making the change sooner.

The only advice I would give is if you are considering a change, it never hurts to start applying elsewhere and see what offers you get. You can always turn them down, or you may find a good fit. My new(ish) role came about because I asked someone for a reference. Once they knew I was considering a change, they immediately offered me a job. I didn't think it was ideal, but went in for a conversation out of respect. Within about ten minutes of a half hour discussion, all I could think was how good a fit it felt, shame the money wasn't enough. They must've felt the same, as on my way out, the GM literally ran and caught up to me in the lobby and sweetened the pot enough to make it an easy choice. Sometimes a good fit is obvious to everyone involved.

The lesson to me is that as long as you're dealing with trustworthy people who can keep a meeting confidential, it never hurts to talk. Possibilities may arise that you didn't even consider...
 
About 20 years ago I had a job that was a flat out recipe for disaster - basically unwinnable. My boss understood, tried to get me moved but it easier for inhuman resources to gas me. I took the severance and walked away, had a new job inside 3 weeks. The severance paid down my mortgage big time, so in hindsight it was a good thing.
Move forward 15 years, a friend called me about applying for that very same job. I told him to ask first thing how many people have sat in the chair since my turn. NO ONE had lasted more than 2 years - he took a big pass.
 
Jz67 , I feel your pain , your in there deep , however life is short . Get out while you have a chance .
Everyone and there uncle is hiring, go do the same thing somewhere else , or something different.

I’m going to a memorial for a co worker next week, he liked the job however through a series of life choices was still with us at 65 , cancer at 66 and dead at 67 . Life is too short to hate going to work. Move on , where you are will NOT get better .


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I am speaking about a person of authority that I am lateral to. We do not report to each other but work together and even though I have a vast amount more experience in the industry, ultimately her decision is final. I am fine with this as it is her feet that will be held to the fire.

She will often say that she makes her decisions based on facts and numbers when the reality is that the decisions are almost exclusively based on her emotional state at the time. No one is perfect and to be honest, I do not envy her position. In fact, I was offered her job many times and refused it because I know that the job is not a good fit for me personally.

Over the years, she has displayed what I feel is deplorable behaviour. I have made notes of these instances as I have witnessed her throwing others under the bus when reporting to the executive branch.

To be totally truthful, I have also grown a bit tired of the organization and how they deal with issues day to day. We were very fortunate during the beginning of COVID as our industry grew enormously. This unrealistic and unsustainable growth has become the benchmark and it is clear that those that I do report to are under pressure to keep the pace. This trickle down is adding unnecessary stress on the whole and I am not alone in how I feel about this. I am taking a 'grass is not greener' approach to this and really try my best to disconnect when not at work. I am really struggling to try to disconnect on a whole.

The one thing I do struggle with most often is my coworkers general attitude. You see, we are a separate entity from the corporation and pretty well run as an independent so most of my day to day stressors are this unpleasant individual.

It is genuinely like being in high school where the captain of the cheerleading squad determines who is cool enough to be in her clique. I do not give a flying **** about this particular popularity contest and for the most part the rest of the people there don't either. They are pretty good about seeing through the charade.

What really gets to me is the misogyny, racism and blatant narcissism. SHE refuses to interview or hire people for positions that she feels are male dominant roles. We all know that no such thing exists and I often take her to task on this. I point out that our competitors have predominantly female workforces along with other obvious "hard" jobs that are always being performed by anyone with a will. She looks at me, rolls her eyes and insists that it would not work out in our walls.

She has often made outlandish racist comments and shows a real dislike for people from Asia. If another woman in our organization is acknowledged for a job well done, she loses her mind. If a man is acknowledged, it's a "boys club".

I really need a way out of this company. I have almost 3 decades in and don't want to up and quit without some kind of package. I am not a spring chicken and landing in a role where I earn similarly would not be easy.

How the hell do I get out with decent package? HR folks, please weigh in.
The key question is getting is about getting a package. You would be looking at a couple of years salary.

Have you tested the waters re a new position?

Walking away on your own means starting from zero financially but consider your health and happiness.
 
I am speaking about a person of authority that I am lateral to. We do not report to each other but work together and even though I have a vast amount more experience in the industry, ultimately her decision is final. I am fine with this as it is her feet that will be held to the fire.

She will often say that she makes her decisions based on facts and numbers when the reality is that the decisions are almost exclusively based on her emotional state at the time. No one is perfect and to be honest, I do not envy her position. In fact, I was offered her job many times and refused it because I know that the job is not a good fit for me personally.

Over the years, she has displayed what I feel is deplorable behaviour. I have made notes of these instances as I have witnessed her throwing others under the bus when reporting to the executive branch.

To be totally truthful, I have also grown a bit tired of the organization and how they deal with issues day to day. We were very fortunate during the beginning of COVID as our industry grew enormously. This unrealistic and unsustainable growth has become the benchmark and it is clear that those that I do report to are under pressure to keep the pace. This trickle down is adding unnecessary stress on the whole and I am not alone in how I feel about this. I am taking a 'grass is not greener' approach to this and really try my best to disconnect when not at work. I am really struggling to try to disconnect on a whole.

The one thing I do struggle with most often is my coworkers general attitude. You see, we are a separate entity from the corporation and pretty well run as an independent so most of my day to day stressors are this unpleasant individual.

It is genuinely like being in high school where the captain of the cheerleading squad determines who is cool enough to be in her clique. I do not give a flying **** about this particular popularity contest and for the most part the rest of the people there don't either. They are pretty good about seeing through the charade.

What really gets to me is the misogyny, racism and blatant narcissism. SHE refuses to interview or hire people for positions that she feels are male dominant roles. We all know that no such thing exists and I often take her to task on this. I point out that our competitors have predominantly female workforces along with other obvious "hard" jobs that are always being performed by anyone with a will. She looks at me, rolls her eyes and insists that it would not work out in our walls.

She has often made outlandish racist comments and shows a real dislike for people from Asia. If another woman in our organization is acknowledged for a job well done, she loses her mind. If a man is acknowledged, it's a "boys club".

I really need a way out of this company. I have almost 3 decades in and don't want to up and quit without some kind of package. I am not a spring chicken and landing in a role where I earn similarly would not be easy.

How the hell do I get out with decent package? HR folks, please weigh in.
I would worry more about a decent next job and less about walking or extracting a package from your employer.

As others mentioned, life's you short. When I turned 40, a 64 year old fella I just hired, said to me "if i wake up 5 days in a row hating thus job, it's time for a new job."

I followed that advice a few times. Last year I left a cozy job at a big bank because I had the 5 days he spoke of. When I left, a sr vp called and asked why I was leaving, I told her about my 5 days rule. She laughed the said that was the best exit reason she had ever heard.
 
30 years is hard to walk away from.

But you need to value your happiness above the payday. I echo others here. Tomorrow is never promised. If you’re unhappy, look to make a change. Shying away because you’re leaving money on the table is not a good enough reason.
 
I have almost 3 decades in and don't want to up and quit without some kind of package. I am not a spring chicken and landing in a role where I earn similarly would not be easy.

I left my very cushy and well-paying job in my 40s, at what most would have thought would have been the height of my earning power to pursue my passion of travel and motorcycles. Pretty much everyone thought I was an idiot and that I'd be living in a cardboard box and dining exclusively on catfood within a few years.

While I was out in the world, I met a whole subculture of people who also left the high-paying grind to pursue what they loved. Barring major medical illness or family crisis, most have eventually achieved the same level of success or more *and* they're doing what they love plus they've gained a better work-life balance in the process.

There are smart people who are lazy, and they end doing well in life.

There are hard-working people who aren't necessarily that intelligent, and they also end up doing well in life.

But if you are both smart and hard-working, that is an unbeatable combination and you are almost guaranteed to succeed in anything you put your efforts towards. Too often, those kinds of people undervalue their skills and unwittingly chain themselves to a job and an organization that exploits their fear of spreading their wings and shooting for the sky.

As for me, I ended up living in a tent and eating at the side of the road for most of the last decade. So there's also that... 🤷‍♂️
 
Getting a package?
Zero chance if you take the first step to quit.
Document the instances of harassment and talk to an employment lawyer about constructive dismissal, this is one way of getting a package.
It is a rough road and you'd have to gamble that the lawyers costs don't out weigh the package.

As the others opine, life is short, don't waste your time getting stressed. Start casting your net for another job or even consider opening your own business.
 
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A guy I worked with years ago said the hardest time at work is when you're smarter than your boss. I'll never forget that.

My wife recently switched companies, she hated, HATED, her previous job. The culture there was like a teenage high school drama series. The new place is fantastic for her. Completely different environment.
 
Talk to your doctor, go on stress leave. That way you get paid while you figure out what to do. If you are off long enough, you may get offered the package that you are looking for. Also you can quit and collect EI if you choose to. Strees is grounds to quit with a doctor note.
 
Have you
a) ranted to HR?
b) explored a package retirement.
c) do you think a me or her showdown would succeed?

Not an easy path. Partner was a 30 yr nurse practicing and formerly researching in rheumatology. She generally had a wonderful career .....they even flew her to New York from Aus to give a talk ...over a long weekend....first class So she had a lot of respect from her peers and even those designated as doctors saw her as a peer due to her extensive clinical knowledge.
She had a lot of stress towards the end of her career last year due to incompetent superior who replaced her previous boss who she/we stay in touch with.
The new guy was a chauvinist ...his way or the highway even tho he was woefully lacking in hands on experience and came from a bigger hospital with far more resources ...in addition ridiculous case loads that were flat out impossible to meet given the nature of the patients.
From 150 chronic outpatients who required regular monitoring ( every 3 months or when they had a flare up ..) for their various conditions. Gradually case loads grew but despite pleas for an additional staff from her and her boss at the time....it fell on deaf ears...at the end there were 400+ patients, no plan to replace her position and no plan to get an additional rheumatologist.
She took long service leave, used up all her medical leave for stress ( and she realllllly was stressed ) and strung out her retirement for 18 months without ever going back to work.
Still left her with a bitter taste to an otherwise satisfying career.

Only you can tell your optimal path but reach out to professionals in stress and HR issues perhaps even in your company who you trust.
Much depends on how far away you are from retirement and who in your company above you and her you can trust to hear you out.

Whoever said get medical leave for stress was bang on as that in itself may send a message.
In addition her bigoted behavior in hiring and assessment may not go down well with senior management ....not just you.

Being my own boss for 50 years had it's own challenges including staff conflicts but at least they were under my control not someone else.....I'd make a lousy employee.
Sincerely, good luck.
...dealing with someone like you've described and not having any power to change things.... :eek:
 
Incredibly surprised that in today’s climate of sensitivity this type of behaviour is permitted.

Most companies have mechanisms and in my case a compliance Manager that encourages people to report any unethical or anything that impacts their enjoyment of the workplace.

Some of my colleagues were surprised by complaints including a few who made fun of our wonderful Prime Minister but at least the door was always open.

And action was taken by the departure of a few “bad apples”
 
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Thanks to all that responded. I have come to the same conclusions as all noted above and have considered looking for another path or stress leave for many years.

When I do break it down, I enjoy what I do and I am very well respected in the industry. I feel this respect mostly within my customer base and a lot less than with my employer. Although respect is one of the companies core values that has on more than one occasion breached with me personally.

I have brought up some of the lack of respect and integrity with our HR department. Fortunately the VP of HR embodies all those great qualities that world class companies look for and is able to compartmentalize matters and deal with each situation professionally.

Maybe it's fear, maybe it's complacency, maybe it's comfort. I just can't seem to make a change. If I could rewind time, I would have gone into the trades...maybe it's not too late.
 
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Maybe it's fear, maybe it's complacency, maybe it's comfort. I just can't seem to make a change. If I could rewind time, I would have gone into the trades...maybe it's not too late.
The world can always use more plumbers, electricians - whatever. It's never too late.
 
30 years is hard to walk away from.

But you need to value your happiness above the payday. I echo others here. Tomorrow is never promised. If you’re unhappy, look to make a change. Shying away because you’re leaving money on the table is not a good enough reason.
In the first 20 years of my career, it was all about the money, I needed lots and made lots. Worked and played very hard.

I surprised a few people, including myself and made it to 40. I decided enough was enough and scaled way back, cut the stress, cut the travel, and let go of the play hard lifestyle. Earnings dropped by half, but surprisingly life got way better.

(There was a relapse later, but that's another story).

What I learned is yesterday, and the last 30 years, really mean nothing compared to a good day tomorrow.
 

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