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you will take this as an insult but it's an observation again. From your choice of cars to your talk about dating and feelings I think you are giving off a feminine vibe. No way does another dude come up and make the moves on a woman I'm with. Never happened never will. Talking to both of us happens, putting attention on the woman alone does not happen. Disrespectful and shows the woman you can be pushed aside literally or figuratively.
oh and is your arm ok? Hmmmmmm, buttercwup,pookie?

I can't tell which person in that conversation is the girl..honestly no joke no kidding....

I tend to see both sides of things and be fair about it.
I am leaning to the sonny's side of the scale a bit here.
I read the replies and thought the same thing...it was the working legs part that I realized it was Roasted speaking.

So you broke up with a girl over text? She made the time and effort to meet you in person.
Maybe it's just me, I would have met up with her or at least speak on the phone.
I would have met up with her for a bit and chat with her, she could have been your wingwoman on other adventures.
I think she would have really appreciated in person chat, it shows her something about your character.
She would have set you up with her friends etc...


I do agree with Sonny, having a dude hit on a woman you are with is a big no no unless it is CLEAR that you are not together such as she is 200+lbs
Just a suggestion and my opinion, you should work on your body language game, non verbal cues.
The way you stand, look at the other guy the moment he stepped in...he should have felt that he is an "employee" and you are his boss.
Also, I strongly disagree with you...why would you make act a fool because your date is boring?
Just saying as a friendly fellow rider, your style is falling apart. You get out of the starting line then it falls apart.
First dates/meeting are no more than 45min-1hour at a coffee/desert shop.
I think you are the prey in a few of these meetings but you don't know it, they meet you and toss you into the friend zone in the first 2 minutes.
Perhaps your online Tinder persona is not in alignment with your real self.

Your Tinder stories are interesting and so is the premiss, she sees a photo and if she likes, she replies...you achieved lift off with minimal effort.
Don't say that you wasted your time going to meet them etc...because had you spend less time texting and get into voice conversation laying out YOUR FOUNDATION she would either have responded with GREAT ATTRACTION then you move to in person meeting. STOP texting your life, it lacks nuance, it lacks feel, it lacks life.

Once you laid out the foundation, if she likes it, she should be asking you when to meet or if you set the time she should accept right away, if she falters or rejects then she just told you she is not really interested therefore do NOT go on the date...see how you avoid wasting time.

You are also all over the place with the types of women you post here. You are hoping or letting these women define you.
There does not seem to be consistency on the women i.e. some guys like blondes so likely 80% of their photos will be blonde women.
I understand if you are just casting a net out for sex and whatever happens happens but you are talking about dating and chemistry etc... which says you are looking for serious gf or wife material.

To each their own style. Nothing I wrote is meant as an insult, that's not my style...we don't know each other or have any negative history.
Just sharing my observations with you and other guys reading this. Sonny say the same thing with a lot fewer words because he "assumes" people will catch on and expand on his thought/view...so I get what he is saying in this thread.

When people ask you what bike do you ride, what do you tell them?
 
I thought Sonny only talk gibberish. Is there really content in his words?
 
OK, so this is what I'm learning here. Apparently I'm a failure at dating cause I went on 3 first dates and only slept with one out of the three and didn't find the love of my life yet in 3 months. I also let a girl know I'm not interested after one date which apparently means I "broke up with her over text" and I'm an *******. Even though 99% of the other people these days simply ignore the other person in these situations. Also, I guess I don't know what I want because I like brown girls AND white girls, blondes and brunettes. I should ONLY go for women between 5'8-5'10, black hair, white, with measurements of 34-26-34. Any deviation from this means that I have no standards. Also, dating is not supposed to be fun where you just meet people and hang out with them. There is a very strict set of rules when dating, you have to talk about your "framework", whatever that is, first dates have to be under 45 minutes and you can only do coffee, etc. Any deviation from this means that you are a failure and don't know what you're doing.

Thank you GTAM for opening my eyes to the truth.
 
Roasted, I am by no means an expert at any of this, but I do not believe that the post you are referring to is in any way a shot at you. As an outside observer, it seemed like they were just letting you know what it looks like to us. You seem to be taking offence to it, but don't.
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OK, so this is what I'm learning here. Apparently I'm a failure at dating cause I went on 3 first dates and only slept with one out of the three and didn't find the love of my life yet in 3 months. I also let a girl know I'm not interested after one date which apparently means I "broke up with her over text" and I'm an *******. Even though 99% of the other people these days simply ignore the other person in these situations. Also, I guess I don't know what I want because I like brown girls AND white girls, blondes and brunettes. I should ONLY go for women between 5'8-5'10, black hair, white, with measurements of 34-26-34. Any deviation from this means that I have no standards. Also, dating is not supposed to be fun where you just meet people and hang out with them. There is a very strict set of rules when dating, you have to talk about your "framework", whatever that is, first dates have to be under 45 minutes and you can only do coffee, etc. Any deviation from this means that you are a failure and don't know what you're doing.

Thank you GTAM for opening my eyes to the truth.

Yup Yer gay...kidding...why do you keep seeking attention, opinion ,approval on here and then reject the comments.
 
Yup Yer gay...kidding...why do you keep seeking attention, opinion ,approval on here and then reject the comments.


Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Sonny....what's with the edit?? That's not your style!
 
OK, so this is what I'm learning here. Apparently I'm a failure at dating cause I went on 3 first dates and only slept with one out of the three and didn't find the love of my life yet in 3 months. I also let a girl know I'm not interested after one date which apparently means I "broke up with her over text" and I'm an *******. Even though 99% of the other people these days simply ignore the other person in these situations. Also, I guess I don't know what I want because I like brown girls AND white girls, blondes and brunettes. I should ONLY go for women between 5'8-5'10, black hair, white, with measurements of 34-26-34. Any deviation from this means that I have no standards. Also, dating is not supposed to be fun where you just meet people and hang out with them. There is a very strict set of rules when dating, you have to talk about your "framework", whatever that is, first dates have to be under 45 minutes and you can only do coffee, etc. Any deviation from this means that you are a failure and don't know what you're doing.

Thank you GTAM for opening my eyes to the truth.

-D-'s advice isn't to be taken literally, it's a general net that works really actually.

The issue with long first dates is that you run the risk of coming off as needy, and you be digging yourself a hole (if she's boring as hell). I admit it's taken me sometime to adjust to this as well because back in high school/university, you'd get to know someone for a fairly long time before dating them so an 8 hour first date wasn't out of the question. The fact is, no matter how well the chat online goes, you don't know anything about that person until you meet them...and time still has to do its thing. Patience is key, plus you'll come off as alpha and slightly mysterious too; it'll give them a reason to think about you if you aren't always available.

You also need to figure out what you want in a girl in terms of abstractions. For example, mine are:


  • Encouraging, can do it attitude
  • Laid back and not easily offended
  • Direction with ambition, goals, and future plans
  • Ability to laugh at herself
  • Cannot be fat (not really abstract but this is a massive deal breaker)

Once you've figured out what you're looking for, you can tailor your first date conversations to figuring that out. I've found this very useful for that btw:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/11/fashion/no-37-big-wedding-or-small.html

If you're just after sex, go pay a hooker. Otherwise, you need to do some serious self discovery to get a serious relationship without digging yourself a hole. Getting into a relationship with someone who you slept on the first date, btw, is a HORRIBLE idea...I'm talking from experience lol
 
OK, so this is what I'm learning here. Apparently I'm a failure at dating cause I went on 3 first dates and only slept with one out of the three and didn't find the love of my life yet in 3 months. I also let a girl know I'm not interested after one date which apparently means I "broke up with her over text" and I'm an *******. Even though 99% of the other people these days simply ignore the other person in these situations. Also, I guess I don't know what I want because I like brown girls AND white girls, blondes and brunettes. I should ONLY go for women between 5'8-5'10, black hair, white, with measurements of 34-26-34. Any deviation from this means that I have no standards. Also, dating is not supposed to be fun where you just meet people and hang out with them. There is a very strict set of rules when dating, you have to talk about your "framework", whatever that is, first dates have to be under 45 minutes and you can only do coffee, etc. Any deviation from this means that you are a failure and don't know what you're doing.

Thank you GTAM for opening my eyes to the truth.

wow!
that's what you got out of my long winded post
dude, your reply in of itself makes you look weak
you are deflecting...women don't like that...they want the guy to take ownership/leadership
clearly one of us is lacking in the communications department
and just because 99% of people do something (wrong/lazy/thoughtless), doesn't mean you follow...shows a woman that you lack class/style/substance
It would appear that you spend this much time in the gym to make you look strong...you focus on building your image by the things you have...dude, you are likely not going to attract the women you desire because when they size you up they will see you as to what Sonny posted...you are essentially all show and no go...but that's just me, everyone has their own style

so you are treating dating as a pass time activity like going to a football game because it's "fun"???
if so...that's another thing they sense that you are not for real and in turn they treat you like a female friend

come on man, you are smarter than this
 
I think sonny uses GTAM like tinder. First rockerguy, then shahfaisal and now roasted. He has a new flavor of homo every month.
 
Don't forget the fudge factor. All the talking and interviewing in the beginning will only mean so much. The proof is in the pudding. Pudding=time+actions.
 
The OP was done with this thread years ago, I'm glad you took a chance to run with it. I laughed, I cried and learned a bit. Sorry it didn't work out.
 

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