This is why I have a dash cam

[fastar1]

The problem is I'm not seeing anything in the video that cannot be easily explained away by mistake, stupidity, true belief, or a combination of all of the above.

Actually, here's a rundown of what it would take to avoid concluding it was a scam;

Poor vehicle maintenance causing no brake lights to work.
Inept driving ability causing for taking his foot off the brake in neutral.
Inattentive driving for failing to notice he was rolling backwards.
Stupidity for failing to realize it was his fault when he called the cops.
Poor communication for letting the other guy believe he was blaming him.
Outrageous fortune for being able to continue driving despite 26 traffic violations in 4 years.

These are the the most charitable views you can take of Ragu. You would have to accept every one of those declarations all at the same time in order to explain away his actions without suggesting any malicious intent.

On the other hand, if you are no so concerned with what the conclusion might say about the guy, and would rather try and find the most probable truth, then Occam's razor comes into effect and the single simplest explanations for each one of those flaws is that Ragu is a scammer. Most probably.

 

[braveheart]

Quincy would have had this **** figured out 10 pages ago.

 

[BLUE_KAWI]

Posted on 4chan..

LOL

 

[veno78]

^ lol at fears and food

 

[invictus43]

I tell you it's murder, Sam! MUUURDER!!!!

Quincy would have had this **** figured out 10 pages ago.

 

[Baggsy]

Should his previous HTA violations count against him?

I would have thought that most here would say no. Maybe I'm biased.

 

[FullMotoJacket]

Officially? Only at your 9 point interview, at sentencing for a vehicular criminal charge, or to determine a fine where the offense has a variable rate fine after conviction.


Doesn't mean I can't comment on the baggery in an internet forum, though.

 

[turbodish]

I did however notice that the rate Brian's car rolled back seemed lesser than the rate the Ragu's sauce car rolled back (compare both videos)

If you notice the distance between the 2 cars was tops one car length, if the car had rolled back at he same rate Bryan's did, I doubt any damage would have happened,

Guard rails posts are visible on the right edge of the video image and provide a rough measure for travel distance in Brian's video. His car looks like it rolled back about almost one car length in 5 seconds, which suggests that the respective roll rates of both Brian's and the supposed scammer's cars are comparable.

I also see that Ragu's sauce car did stop abruptly for no reason (turbo theory that this would be the preferred scam way) then started rolling back immediately, I'm assuming since the car behind failed to crash into him slightly.

Replay that video. At the 5 second mark you can see a silver car in the lane to the left slow momentarily, and you can clearly see Sham's car and the car in front gaining on that car that is in the lane to the left. Then traffic in Sham's lane slows and comes to a stop. This is consistent with a car further up in the lane to the left slowing and looking for a gap in Sham's lane ahead (causing the left lane to slow at first), then taking that gap causing a ripple effect on traffic behind in Sham's lane and causing traffic in it to momentarily stop.

This is also consistent with a car just coming off the core lane transfer ramp to the left and then working its way over to the lanes to the right to reach the Keele ramp, which happens all the time in rush hour traffic. Poor placement of the transfer lanes causes the same sort of short distance conflicting traffic patterns and congestion at the Leslie, Kennedy, and Markham Rd off ramps.

We also have to take into consideration that according to the pics I have seen, that guy likes his car, so he had to balance scamming someone with making the minimum damage possible, hence his tamed approach.

Or, the guy likes his car and so would have no intention of damaging it with a staged crash at all. The incident is how many days old? The media has reported on his previous traffic tickets. Has the media come forward with any previous history of him being suspected of staged crashes? No.

Yea can not prove it, but the only way to prove it would be to get a confession, guess what that ain't gonna happen, so I am glad some people are putting his info out there.

It's easy to make allegations. I'm sure none of you will mind when it's your turn to see your own casual driving mistakes turned into a sinister criminal conspiracy plot and widely publicized as such by bored net kiddies.

 

[psycho44]

It's easy to make allegations. I'm sure none of you will mind when it's your turn to see your own casual driving mistakes turned into a sinister criminal conspiracy plot and widely publicized as such by bored net kiddies.

Only if you ask for $500 for touch up paint fix. He even reported to his insurance that he was rear ended to screw up the poor student's insurance premium over a few paint chips and milk the insurance for a new bumper. Yeah I know it's only he said she said sorts but I don't doubt Sham making any of the conversation up particularly pointing out the video camera as his proof.

 

[dr_sarcasm]

Only if you ask for $500 for touch up paint fix. He even reported to his insurance that he was rear ended to screw up the poor student's insurance premium over a few paint chips and milk the insurance for a new bumper. Yeah I know it's only he said she said sorts but I don't doubt Sham making any of the conversation up particularly pointing out the video camera as his proof.

4chan thread now states that a deaf person who is adept at lip-reading has confirmed Sham's story i.e. they can "read" Ragu-sauce asking for the cash.

Lol, whether true or not, a new twist/element tossed into the fray!

 

[ZX600]

Guard rails posts are visible on the right edge of the video image and provide a rough measure for travel distance in Brian's video. His car looks like it rolled back about almost one car length in 5 seconds, which suggests that the respective roll rates of both Brian's and the supposed scammer's cars are comparable.


Replay that video. At the 5 second mark you can see a silver car in the lane to the left slow momentarily, and you can clearly see Sham's car and the car in front gaining on that car that is in the lane to the left. Then traffic in Sham's lane slows and comes to a stop. This is consistent with a car further up in the lane to the left slowing and looking for a gap in Sham's lane ahead (causing the left lane to slow at first), then taking that gap causing a ripple effect on traffic behind in Sham's lane and causing traffic in it to momentarily stop.

This is also consistent with a car just coming off the core lane transfer ramp to the left and then working its way over to the lanes to the right to reach the Keele ramp, which happens all the time in rush hour traffic. Poor placement of the transfer lanes causes the same sort of short distance conflicting traffic patterns and congestion at the Leslie, Kennedy, and Markham Rd off ramps.


Or, the guy likes his car and so would have no intention of damaging it with a staged crash at all. The incident is how many days old? The media has reported on his previous traffic tickets. Has the media come forward with any previous history of him being suspected of staged crashes? No.


It's easy to make allegations. I'm sure none of you will mind when it's your turn to see your own casual driving mistakes turned into a sinister criminal conspiracy plot and widely publicized as such by bored net kiddies.

I will go back and take a look at what you described on the video. However, the media may have not reported on his previous staged crashes for one simple reason, he wasn't caught on camera before, there was someone that came forward on the comment section and said the same thing happened to him with the same guy for 300 bucks, of course there is no video....but even if there was I am sure there are ways to justify anything.

One thing I can assure you, my driving mistakes can be caught on camera, but me asking someone for 500 dollars will never be, why? Because I am not a scammer

 

[ZX600]

4chan thread now states that a deaf person who is adept at lip-reading has confirmed Sham's story i.e. they can "read" Ragu-sauce asking for the cash.

Lol, whether true or not, a new twist/element tossed into the fray!

we can't use lip reading as proof, after all no one uses it in the NFL to try and get the other team next play in advance, neither does the FBI or CIA for intelligence

 

[braveheart]

we can't use lip reading as proof, after all no one uses it in the NFL to try and get the other team next play in advance, neither does the FBI or CIA for intelligence

ummmm.. yes they do. lol

 

[vkhamphi]

ummmm.. yes they do. lol

Sarcasm dude.

 

[turbodish]

we can't use lip reading as proof, after all no one uses it in the NFL to try and get the other team next play in advance, neither does the FBI or CIA for intelligence

You might want to have another look at that video and see just how much lip can be seen to be read by a lip-reader.

 

[ZX600]

ummmm.. yes they do. lol

sarcasm my friend, sarcasm

 

[braveheart]

Sarcasm dude.

then he should add the

 

[ZX600]

You might want to have another look at that video and see just how much lip can be seen to be read by a lip-reader.

with the right equipment, the images can be zoomed in and digitally enhanced for better resolution, come on, you know that.

People in 4chan have already increased the size of the video to look at various details, hence how they got the guys info, like where he works from a small tag

 

[ZX600]

Guard rails posts are visible on the right edge of the video image and provide a rough measure for travel distance in Brian's video. His car looks like it rolled back about almost one car length in 5 seconds, which suggests that the respective roll rates of both Brian's and the supposed scammer's cars are comparable.


Replay that video. At the 5 second mark you can see a silver car in the lane to the left slow momentarily, and you can clearly see Sham's car and the car in front gaining on that car that is in the lane to the left. Then traffic in Sham's lane slows and comes to a stop. This is consistent with a car further up in the lane to the left slowing and looking for a gap in Sham's lane ahead (causing the left lane to slow at first), then taking that gap causing a ripple effect on traffic behind in Sham's lane and causing traffic in it to momentarily stop.

This is also consistent with a car just coming off the core lane transfer ramp to the left and then working its way over to the lanes to the right to reach the Keele ramp, which happens all the time in rush hour traffic. Poor placement of the transfer lanes causes the same sort of short distance conflicting traffic patterns and congestion at the Leslie, Kennedy, and Markham Rd off ramps.


Or, the guy likes his car and so would have no intention of damaging it with a staged crash at all. The incident is how many days old? The media has reported on his previous traffic tickets. Has the media come forward with any previous history of him being suspected of staged crashes? No.


It's easy to make allegations. I'm sure none of you will mind when it's your turn to see your own casual driving mistakes turned into a sinister criminal conspiracy plot and widely publicized as such by bored net kiddies.

Time from the moment the car started backing up to the moment it hit Shaman's car 4.7 (timed on an iphone app)
On Bryan's car around the 6 sec mark. The problem is that on the real video there is a defined stopping point, with Bryan's video there isn't so neither you or I can definitely say that the one is comparable or not with the other dismissing your first point, a fraction of a second will make a big difference on calculating the actual roll back speed and since neither you or I have the actual distance or time we can not calculate the speed. I would say that your statement about the times been comparable is flawed, the same way it would be if I made a counterpoint

In regards to your second paragraph.
I honestly don't see what you are seeing. Ragu's car gained on the silver car but never caught up to him, the reason why the silver car slowed down is because the car (dark grey)in front of Ragu filtered into the silver car's lane at the 6.34 mark giving Ragu's car no reason whatsoever to stop (since the dark grey car got out of the way), further more, one of the cars on the right lane from Ragu saw the gap created by ragu stopping and filtered in front of ragu .

Can someone else take a look and confirm or deny what I am saying?

[video=youtube;zJYFyYGWZcE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJYFyYGWZcE&feature=player_embedded[/video]

 

[turbodish]

Where has he back-peddled on his initial comments? I've heard him lamenting that things have gone so far but, before he pulled the video off Youtube, he posted there to counter the ridiculously biased second story in The Star. Quite far from back-peddling.

This is Sham's reaction at being hit, and the other driver's reaction (calling the police) at being accused of trying to scam Sham.

Yogarajah doesn’t deny he is at fault for the collision. But he got frustrated at the scene because, he says, Sham insisted Yogarajah had reversed on purpose. So Yogarajah called police himself (a move Sham admits was “weird”).

This is Sham back-pedalling, hinting at recognizing that he may have over-reacted.

Sham says he wasn’t trying to ruin Yogarajah’s reputation. He only wanted other drivers to be aware that dashboard cameras can be useful for insurance purposes.He says he believes now that Yogarajah may have accidentally put the car in neutral, and not intentionally reversed, though he still maintains Yogarajah asked for money. “I really don’t want to screw him, or anything.”
http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/a...ashboard-camera-and-youtube-not-what-it-seems

It's great that Sham professes to at least partially "believe now", but the damage has been done, hasn't it?