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The vaccines arent coming

That’s not exactly the way it is. Think of the USA as a collection of states, each with a constitution and distinct sovereign rights.

Each state is responsible for the response inside their borders. Vaccine distribution is a state thing, not a federal thing.

Aldo know that as of early Feb, the US had distributed and delivered more jabs every day than Canada has delivered in total. Over 50 million jabs delivered in the US so far vs 1.3m inCanada.

The US delivered 1.65 million jabs today, Canada did 18 thousand.

Certainly, no one is claiming that WE don't have our own set of problems with this!

I'm sure we'd be delivering more, if we could actually get our hands on it, or (gasp) make some within our own borders ...

And just because the individual states are responsible for what they do internally, doesn't mean you can't have a great big conference call to co-ordinate and organise things, and make sure that if the states require any additional federal resources, that they get it.
 
Certainly, no one is claiming that WE don't have our own set of problems with this!

I'm sure we'd be delivering more, if we could actually get our hands on it, or (gasp) make some within our own borders ...

And just because the individual states are responsible for what they do internally, doesn't mean you can't have a great big conference call to co-ordinate and organise things, and make sure that if the states require any additional federal resources, that they get it.
A big conference call, Trump was calling the different states before the vaccine was even thought about, NY come to mind?

How would he be able to get dems on the phone when they was so hell bent and bound to get him out of office with there own agenda not thinking about covid
 
Certainly, no one is claiming that WE don't have our own set of problems with this!

I'm sure we'd be delivering more, if we could actually get our hands on it, or (gasp) make some within our own borders ...

And just because the individual states are responsible for what they do internally, doesn't mean you can't have a great big conference call to co-ordinate and organise things, and make sure that if the states require any additional federal resources, that they get it.
We do have our own problems. On one hand we are report deliveries using 6 jabs/vial (makes the numbers look better), but jabs are counted using 5 jabs/vial.

We could have been jabbing 20% more (like they do in the USA had we procured the right needles. Again Canada was asleep while other countries slurped up the global supply.

On the delivery side we have already heard of waste because distribution plans did not include guidance for leftover vaccines. I recently saw a nursing home chief get vilified for calling in staff freinds and family to use up surplus vaccine - I see this a a better use than letting it go bad.

Finally, the US isn’t having and hasn’t suffered major distribution problems
 
On the delivery side we have already heard of waste because distribution plans did not include guidance for leftover vaccines. I recently saw a nursing home chief get vilified for calling in staff freinds and family to use up surplus vaccine - I see this a a better use than letting it go bad.

Finally, the US isn’t having and hasn’t suffered major distribution problems

They did, early on: U.S. Likely Will Miss Goal Of Vaccinating 20 Million By The New Year

We will suffer from "political correctness". "OMG someone got the vaccine before they should have because they had a few extra doses lying around". "OMG if we let anyone get the vaccine before they should then there might be corruption because hospitals will hoard it for themselves". "OMG my 85 year old grandmother who lives an hour and a half drive away from the hospital and can only get there if someone goes for a 2 hour drive to go get her didn't get vaccinated because the hospital vaccinated the 34 year old janitor who works there and is in the covid floor all the time instead".

As opposed to what the USA (and Israel, and I suspect the UK) are now doing: Get it done. Vaccine doses left over? Vaccinate someone. Couldn't get grandma to the hospital? Cry me a river. Get her there on time tomorrow.
 
Perfect example...


Cracked a vial and 10 doses left. Doctor found 10 people. Fired because he didn’t use it in the hospital, and then the names were ‘not diverse enough’ (ie: too many brown people).

Then they sued him! Thrown out of lower court so they took it to a higher court. Jabs in arms. Just get these into people if there is excess or they’re going to get wasted.
 
And speaking of Huawei:


What is going on here?

Our universities will take cash from anyone as a consequence of being underfunded by government. Not just us though, US too. Sometimes it comes down to individual researchers.
 
True, but if you read the article it tells you individual states had difficulty ramping up, the Feds got out the doses.

One might expect a task of this magnitude with so many levels of responsibility and a narrow target for the first round of vaccinations -- anyone would expect that to be a challenge. Thing is, the Americans got it figured our in about a week, they have vaccines heading to clinics and pharmacies now and have established a very wide deliver platform. Remember, they shoot more doses each day than we have shot in total, if we were as prepared as the USA, Canada would have finished vaccinating by now.

The daily updates: The USA has accelerated to 1.7m jabs/day, Canada is up to 1/100th that speed 18,00 per day.
 
underfunded, i've got three daughters in uni. i really don't get the underfunded part from what i pay and the amount of students from other country paying up to triple the cost
 
One more thing that's a bit of a head scratcher is that Canada has contracted to purchase 400million doses. If they are as good a negotiator as the US or EU, the cost for each delivered dose is around $25 or about $10billion CAD. The rest of the world is comfortable with 1.92-1.99 doses per citizen, Canada has 11. Seems like we blew an extra $8.3 billion just to end up last on the delivery list.
 
One more thing that's a bit of a head scratcher is that Canada has contracted to purchase 400million doses. If they are as good a negotiator as the US or EU, the cost for each delivered dose is around $25 or about $10billion CAD. The rest of the world is comfortable with 1.92-1.99 doses per citizen, Canada has 11. Seems like we blew an extra $8.3 billion just to end up last on the delivery list.
Looks great on paper the 11 doses . To bad people won't get one before the end of the year .

Not JTs money looks great in the headlines for a few days .

I'm sure once there is a stockpile of vaccines . They will be given away to third world countries .
 
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are supposedly US$25-ish per dose; AstraZeneca is supposedly US$3-ish but it's not approved yet, J&J is also pretty inexpensive (and there's only one dose needed) but it's also not approved yet. It's hard for an "average" to be meaningful when the individual amounts differ so much.
 
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are supposedly US$25-ish per dose; AstraZeneca is supposedly US$3-ish but it's not approved yet, J&J is also pretty inexpensive (and there's only one dose needed) but it's also not approved yet. It's hard for an "average" to be meaningful when the individual amounts differ so much.

The Astra-Zeneca “Oxford” vaccine is profit neutral. I’m not sure but it may be the only one that is, all the others are designed to turn a profit.
 
The Astra-Zeneca “Oxford” vaccine is profit neutral. I’m not sure but it may be the only one that is, all the others are designed to turn a profit.
I’m pretty sure we didn’t pay less than the folks in the US or Europe. Their average delivered price is $20USD.

But that’s not the point. It’s the extra 340 million doses we agreed to purchase. To vaccinate all of Canada we need 60 million doses, were on the hook for 400 million.
 

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