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The vaccines arent coming

Evoex said:
uh we signed a treaty, we have the legal obligation to do so. the government is not consulted, they are informed likely just before or during the arrest.
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I thought the Huawei exec thing was a US (Trump) political spat that we had no business getting involved in.
 
J_F said:
^ yup

didn't want to get political in your thread, BP
but Trump laid down the law - Exec Order
any vaccines developed with funding from Op Warp Speed could not be exported
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Didn't CNN tell us all that OP warp speed had nothing to do with the vaccines developed in the USA and was a failed program?
 
On a lighter note. When the lockdowns are lifted, your local eating establishments may have new menu's. BAT samiches anyone?
 
jc100 said:
I thought the Huawei exec thing was a US (Trump) political spat that we had no business getting involved in.
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It is definitely politically motivated on the US end, Canada got stuck in the middle of it.

US issued an extradition order for the Huawei exec. Canada has an extradition treaty with the US that goes both ways. If Canada were to say no, we would be opening up a whole can of diplomatic issues with the US.
 
J_F said:
it's not difficult to cut a cheque when it's not your money
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What's that got to do with CNN telling everyone the money that was thrown into all those companies for research had zero results.
 
jc100 said:
I thought the Huawei exec thing was a US (Trump) political spat that we had no business getting involved in.
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The treaty doesn’t care about that. If the paperwork checks out they start the process.

don't forget the legislature and the judicial branches are separate entities for this very reason.
 
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DownUnder said:
What's that got to do with CNN telling everyone the money that was thrown into all those companies for research had zero results.
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balance of understanding
of course the money was essential
and it's not a generationally important decision to spend it
anyone in the office would have done the same
 
DownUnder said:
Didn't CNN tell us all that OP warp speed had nothing to do with the vaccines developed in the USA and was a failed program?
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I don't recall anyone saying that.

Several companies including Moderna and AstraZeneca made use of Operation Warp Speed money for vaccine development although it wasn't the only source of funds for those companies.

The Pfizer vaccine was developed without development money from Operation Warp Speed, although the company did enter into a purchase agreement later on (obviously, given that it was the first one to be approved and is now in use).

Vaccine distribution under the Trump administration was botched via neglect. By the time it became apparent that distribution would be able to start while that administration was still in power, that administration (and specifically its leadership) was paying attention to other matters, and they basically tossed the vaccine over the wall to the states for them to figure out independently with no discernible planning or co-ordination.

This situation ought to be common knowledge.
 
www.foxnews.com

CNN admits that Moderna's promising vaccine development is an 'unmitigated success' for Trump

Monday's big news about Moderna's promising coronavirus vaccine was such good news for President Trump that even the anti-Trump network CNN couldn't deny it.
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edition.cnn.com

Fact check: Trump claims Pfizer vaccine is a result of Operation Warp Speed

President-elect Joe Biden is moving ahead with transition plans as President Trump refuses to concede and pursues legal challenges to the election results. Follow here for the latest.
edition.cnn.com edition.cnn.com
 
Brian P said:
I don't recall anyone saying that.

Several companies including Moderna and AstraZeneca made use of Operation Warp Speed money for vaccine development although it wasn't the only source of funds for those companies.

The Pfizer vaccine was developed without development money from Operation Warp Speed, although the company did enter into a purchase agreement later on (obviously, given that it was the first one to be approved and is now in use).

Vaccine distribution under the Trump administration was botched via neglect. By the time it became apparent that distribution would be able to start while that administration was still in power, that administration (and specifically its leadership) was paying attention to other matters, and they basically tossed the vaccine over the wall to the states for them to figure out independently with no discernible planning or co-ordination.

This situation ought to be common knowledge.
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Pfizer took nearly 2 billion dollars from the OWS program... whether they used the money on the research or on updating and expanding their manufacturing and distribution makes zero difference. The project helped.
 
Read CNN's fact-check article posted above. CNN did not "tell us that Operation Warp Speed had nothing to do with the vaccines developed in the USA and was a failed program".

CNN's fact-check article states the situation accurately and without making a click-bait political accusation or claim.

No one is claiming that Operation Warp Speed was a "failed program".

The piece of it that was botched, was the distribution part of it.
 
jc100 said:
How's that cat scan going? Did they find anything or are the lights on but no one is home?
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Are you light headed from your six masks on tight . That is the best you have .
 
Brian P said:
....Vaccine distribution under the Trump administration was botched via neglect. By the time it became apparent that distribution would be able to start while that administration was still in power, that administration (and specifically its leadership) was paying attention to other matters, and they basically tossed the vaccine over the wall to the states for them to figure out independently with no discernible planning or co-ordination.

This situation ought to be common knowledge.
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That’s not exactly the way it is. Think of the USA as a collection of states, each with a constitution and distinct sovereign rights.

Each state is responsible for the response inside their borders. Vaccine distribution is a state thing, not a federal thing.

Aldo know that as of early Feb, the US had distributed and delivered more jabs every day than Canada has delivered in total. Over 50 million jabs delivered in the US so far vs 1.3m inCanada.

The US delivered 1.65 million jabs today, Canada did 18 thousand.
 
Brian P said:
Read CNN's fact-check article posted above. CNN did not "tell us that Operation Warp Speed had nothing to do with the vaccines developed in the USA and was a failed program".

CNN's fact-check article states the situation accurately and without making a click-bait political accusation or claim.

No one is claiming that Operation Warp Speed was a "failed program".

The piece of it that was botched, was the distribution part of it.
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If you read the story and not just the headlines, After CNN got called out on what they originally said they admitted to the truth
 
jc100 said:
Where are you getting the six masks from? You seem to think this is some kind of gotcha but don’t seem to realize what it actually shows.
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It shows you are wearing to many masks . They are effecting your judgement and thinking . Loss of oxygen is evident .

*gotcha
 
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