The global Debt Clock

This is only part of the picture and that is the problem with this report. You would think the economist is a good source, but it's too complicated to put it all in one article. I guess they assume those who are reading their publication are "in the know" and will also gather the missing data or already understand it.

The US is more indebted than Canada. We are in a better financial position than the US overall. This does not show that.
 
If everthing collapes why would gold be worth anything it is just a shiny metal no real intrinsic value. You cant eat gold or make it into food.

If everything collapses, the only currency need will be a gun. People are very animalistic when they have to fight for resources.
 
This is only part of the picture and that is the problem with this report. You would think the economist is a good source, but it's too complicated to put it all in one article. I guess they assume those who are reading their publication are "in the know" and will also gather the missing data or already understand it.

The US is more indebted than Canada. We are in a better financial position than the US overall. This does not show that.

This is true but we are a group of over-leveraged home owners. Despite what RE agents says, real estate does not always go up. 2012 could be an ugly year
 
The numbers in that map don't include the "non-debt" government obligations, like future old age security benefits and health care costs that governments will have to pay. The present value of those obligations, if they were added in, would at least double the numbers on that map.
 
From what I understand, bank are allowed to "invent" money, printing money is also one reason for inflation, more money you print, more inflation you get (ok, it's WAYYYYYYYY more complicated than that, I fix aircraft, I'm not an economist :p )

I also read that there's not enough gold in the world to back the US debt, unless the US currency goes extremely low which mean for them an hyperinflation.

The US has been off the gold standard for many years. Most countries are not backed by a gold standard. You don't need gold to back the US debt. You don't need gold to back a currency.
 
LOL...the governments/banks don't want you to know how currency is made. There are loads of Youtube vids on how currency is created. I know how currency is made and it the main reason why I am into gold/silver. The entire system FIAT system is a ponzi scheme and is why the markets are acting so crazy. The FIAT system is going to zero.

Peter Schiff on the Keiser Report.
Listen to the entire vid: http://rt.com/programs/keiser-report/finance-obama-debt-money/

Maybe one of those Youtube videos on "how money is made" came from one of those Polka Dot Door segments. I saw one once when I was a kid that showed how shoes are made.
 
If everything collapses, the only currency need will be a gun. People are very animalistic when they have to fight for resources.

There was a time when canada had no real currency.....we seemed to manage. We soon developed a standard value system, our first currency was actually a heavily traded good.
If we started all over again we would go down the exact same path, that should tell you something.
 
If everthing collapes why would gold be worth anything it is just a shiny metal no real intrinsic value. You cant eat gold or make it into food.

That has to be the stupidest line out there invented by some moron golfball manager. Do you eat paper money? Have you found a way to turn paper money into food?Paper has an intrinsic value of about 4 cents. Throughout history currencies have failed and become fuel for fire places or blowing in the streets. I have yet to see gold coins discarded as manure. Gold cannot be manufactured out of thin air, like paper money and therefore is a preffered liquid asset. Land is also an asset but it lacks portability. Gold has been money for over 5000 years and that hasn't changed. I hear the same drival here when gold was 1000$ and it will continue as the currency trainwreck finishes and when the dust settles, the only money left standing will be gold.

The world central banks are buying gold, what's Elmer Fudd the investor theory on that? I've been hearing a lot of the knucklehead economists talking about inflation for a decade. Eventually like the broken clock, will be correct. The chicken littles screaming that gold is in a bubble since it surpassed 500$. This is just noise from the peanut gallery of wannabe economic theorists. They don't understand money because the've been taught by the banksters in the schools they sponsor.

No lasting solution will ever come to the USGovt budget, where spending cuts are obstructed and tax hikes are obstructed, and war spending will continue into oblivion.
Gold has benefited from the lost credibility of the global monetary system, from the loss of unquestioned faith in the central bank franchise system. Gold represents the mirror image of the crumbling monetary system and its soured debt foundation, managed by dubious central bankers. The system will perpetuate its ruinous debasement of money itself, since the power structure will struggle to preserve itself. It is that simple. In no way will JPMorgan or Citigroup or Bank of America voluntarily commit to bankruptcy and debt restructure, accompanied by impaired asset liquidation. They are the insolvent pillars of the US financial syndicate, firmly in power, never to release that power unless from cold dead fingers. The Gold & Silver prices will continue to make new highs in the second half of the year. We should look forward with juicy anticipation to all the back-peddling by countless analysts who claimed the anti-USDollar trade was over.

Too bad the Elmer Fudd investor is just watching his purchasing power evaporate while he grapples with his economic theories that aren't panning out. Not able to confront his failed economic theory, watches from the peanut gallery.

QE to infinity!! as I said B4.
 
No, you think you know how money is created. So my formal education in economics is ******** and your YouTube videos tell all. I love to laugh at people like you, the ones in the know. The ones who believe gold and silver will launch them to greatness once the fiat bubble crashes. How do people like you expect to make something of yourselves in a total economic collapse when you couldn't in an economic boom. What do you think our economic situation would be like if Canada had not significantly increased spending since 2008?

Tell us Elmer Fudd, how is money created and how you made all your wealth, being in the know as an economista. If you had a clue you would have bought gold in 2000. Guess your theory on economics needs a revision.
 
That has to be the stupidest line out there invented by some moron golfball manager. Do you eat paper money? Have you found a way to turn paper money into food?Paper has an intrinsic value of about 4 cents. Throughout history currencies have failed and become fuel for fire places or blowing in the streets. I have yet to see gold coins discarded as manure. Gold cannot be manufactured out of thin air, like paper money and therefore is a preffered liquid asset. Land is also an asset but it lacks portability. Gold has been money for over 5000 years and that hasn't changed. I hear the same drival here when gold was 1000$ and it will continue as the currency trainwreck finishes and when the dust settles, the only money left standing will be gold.

The only advantage that gold has over fiat currency is that it is, and most likely always will be in limited supply.

The world central banks are buying gold, what's Elmer Fudd the investor theory on that? I've been hearing a lot of the knucklehead economists talking about inflation for a decade. Eventually like the broken clock, will be correct. The chicken littles screaming that gold is in a bubble since it surpassed 500$. This is just noise from the peanut gallery of wannabe economic theorists. They don't understand money because the've been taught by the banksters in the schools they sponsor.

No lasting solution will ever come to the USGovt budget, where spending cuts are obstructed and tax hikes are obstructed, and war spending will continue into oblivion.
Gold has benefited from the lost credibility of the global monetary system, from the loss of unquestioned faith in the central bank franchise system. Gold represents the mirror image of the crumbling monetary system and its soured debt foundation, managed by dubious central bankers. The system will perpetuate its ruinous debasement of money itself, since the power structure will struggle to preserve itself. It is that simple. In no way will JPMorgan or Citigroup or Bank of America voluntarily commit to bankruptcy and debt restructure, accompanied by impaired asset liquidation. They are the insolvent pillars of the US financial syndicate, firmly in power, never to release that power unless from cold dead fingers. The Gold & Silver prices will continue to make new highs in the second half of the year. We should look forward with juicy anticipation to all the back-peddling by countless analysts who claimed the anti-USDollar trade was over.

Too bad the Elmer Fudd investor is just watching his purchasing power evaporate while he grapples with his economic theories that aren't panning out. Not able to confront his failed economic theory, watches from the peanut gallery.

QE to infinity!! as I said B4.

The only advantage that gold has over fiat currency is that it is, and most likely always will be in limited supply.
 
Tell us Elmer Fudd, how is money created and how you made all your wealth, being in the know as an economista. If you had a clue you would have bought gold in 2000. Guess your theory on economics needs a revision.

LOL.

what did I buy or not buy in 2000?

THose who have a clue havent been waiting for fiat currency to fail since it was introduced.


Your rantings have nothing to do with the post you qouted. Defensive much?
 
Imkruzen - I think you over-invested in silver, good luck (with that attitude, it'll be funny to watch when "gold" held offshore gets expropriated by government)
 
There was a time when canada had no real currency.....we seemed to manage. We soon developed a standard value system, our first currency was actually a heavily traded good.
If we started all over again we would go down the exact same path, that should tell you something.

Money is anything that has value or perceived to have value. The problem with the IOU is that it is a liability that has a perceived value as long as the debtor is able to pay. In the case of the USD there are doubts rising on the ability of the GOV to sustain value of the IOU when repaid in devalued fiat money. Purchasing power of the global monetary system is collapsing and therefore smart money moves to assets. The world CBs are purchasing the real money in exchange for fiat IOUs, that are in reality worthless pieces of paper. You can argue till the cows come home that gold is shiny dirt, but I'd rather own that then hoards of paper that with great certainty has a historic record of failure, gold has none.

You've been reiterating here for some time about your qualifications but have failed in theory, because you were taught by those that don't know what money is and therefore will continue to miss the opportunity.
 
Imkruzen - I think you over-invested in silver, good luck (with that attitude, it'll be funny to watch when "gold" held offshore gets expropriated by government)

How would you know of any investments I have? Gov. to expropriate gold? Really, that's an interesting theory? Makes me wonder what the price would do then.
 
Money is anything that has value or perceived to have value. The problem with the IOU is that it is a liability that has a perceived value as long as the debtor is able to pay. In the case of the USD there are doubts rising on the ability of the GOV to sustain value of the IOU when repaid in devalued fiat money. Purchasing power of the global monetary system is collapsing and therefore smart money moves to assets. The world CBs are purchasing the real money in exchange for fiat IOUs, that are in reality worthless pieces of paper. You can argue till the cows come home that gold is shiny dirt, but I'd rather own that then hoards of paper that with great certainty has a historic record of failure, gold has none.

You've been reiterating here for some time about your qualifications but have failed in theory, because you were taught by those that don't know what money is and therefore will continue to miss the opportunity.

NO, I have yet to fail in theory, yours has yet to be proven.

You keep refering to fiat currency as worthless, when at this point in time it is far from it.
 
The only advantage that gold has over fiat currency is that it is, and most likely always will be in limited supply.

There you go. Anything that is limited supply increases in value by the dollars that are unlimited in supply. How will they fit all those dollars into the limited supply of gold or for that matter any asset that is in limited supply?
 
NO, I have yet to fail in theory, yours has yet to be proven.

You keep refering to fiat currency as worthless, when at this point in time it is far from it.

So why is gold and commodities costing more? Because they're going up or the dollar going down?
 

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