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The CMA and the FIM

From what I understand Marilyn Bastedo is in tight with some of the FIM people. As long as she’s around it’s going to be CMA as the FIM representation in Canada. Which is really too bad, CMA has been a pretty useless organization in recent memory.
 
Why don't you just sanction your MCC events through CMA or am I missing something :unsure:
I've only been doing that for about 30 years.
 
Trials said:
Why don't you just sanction your MCC events through CMA or am I missing something :unsure:
I've only been doing that for about 30 years.
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I think mostly because Marilyn (the CMA) has watched as racing has died on the vine regionally creating a fragmented competition community across the country, regardless of the discipline.

So yeah, I guess you have missed something, but trials did remain in the CMA good books over the years I suppose.
 
For over 45 years the Bastedo family has controlled the CMA and run it like a fiefdom.
No one seems to know why they've got away with it but they have.
Nothing will change until they are out of the picture.
 
TK4 said:
For over 45 years the Bastedo family has controlled the CMA and run it like a fiefdom.
No one seems to know why they've got away with it but they have.
Nothing will change until they are out of the picture.
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They are dependent on sheep.
 
Its very sad for all those young riders who will never get an opportunity.

I also think she has created a toxic, negative atmosphere within the CMA. I understand that she pretty much forced Kourtney Lloyd out of MXON, and she was doing just a super job. That's a real slap in the face.

That's the problem when you have a narcissist in a position of power. I guess all she has to do is sit around and collect a pay cheque.
 
I remember Jim Kelly trying to organize mx schools for kids in the 70's. He didn't get any help. It will take someone "like" Jordan Szoke to get things going after Marilyn takes the dirt nap.
 
I cannot say I know much about the subject but the Motorcycle Experience guys talked about it:

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Motorcycle Experience Podcast Episode 4

In this episode, the team talks about the FIM’s recent decision to continue working with the CMA and not recognize the MCC. Colin does his best to put the FIM’s decision into context, while Cam asks “what exactly again is the CMA?” The episode wraps up just as Dave shockingly discovers that...
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Ok I get it now, you don't like them so you can't work with them. Even though they are the only game in town.

You know I never had any problem with them. No they do not host or build events, they actually don't do much of anything.
CMA sanctioned events happen around here because of people like myself and a few of the people I ride with, not because of CMA.
Thus has it always been and it is my understanding that CMA is the FIM sanctioning body in Canada until CMA says otherwise.
 
Trials said:
Ok I get it now, you don't like them so you can't work with them. Even though they are the only game in town.

You know I never had any problem with them. No they do not host or build events, they actually don't do much of anything.
CMA sanctioned events happen around here because of people like myself and a few of the people I ride with, not because of CMA.
Thus has it always been and it is my understanding that CMA is the FIM sanctioning body in Canada until CMA says otherwise.
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So by everybodies admission CMA does f all and stands as an obstacle to racing development. Why should they exist? If you dont want to do the job, get out of the way and let somebody else do it. Monopolies are infuriating to me.
 
GreyGhost said:
So by everybodies admission CMA does f all and stands as an obstacle to racing development. Why should they exist? If you dont want to do the job, get out of the way and let somebody else do it. Monopolies are infuriating to me.
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The only obstacle I see is that people don't seem to want to send CMA the money for an annual competition license, use their insurance provider and forms for their events, or drop coin to register a club with them at a cost of a few hundred bucks a year.


lol by the way I am Not a spokesperson for CMA I just happen to have to deal with them occasionally and so far it has been costly but never painful.
 
The CMA has no problem cashing the cheque for the competition license. I dealt with them in the 70s and then later in the late 90s. They never got event news to me. It all has to be done by fellow riders.
The SOCT has their own insurance providers and functions a lot better than they do. There is NO annual fee, and trials entry is $5 to $10.
 
Trials said:
Ok I get it now, you don't like them so you can't work with them. Even though they are the only game in town.

You know I never had any problem with them. No they do not host or build events, they actually don't do much of anything.
CMA sanctioned events happen around here because of people like myself and a few of the people I ride with, not because of CMA.
Thus has it always been and it is my understanding that CMA is the FIM sanctioning body in Canada until CMA says otherwise.
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You were right; you really don't get it.

As someone who was involved in a competition club for many years my opinion is that the CMA has been an immovable obstacle to the growth and advancement of motorcycling and motorcycle competition in Canada since the 90's.

It has been an impenetrable bureaucracy (or fiefdom if you prefer) that went to great lengths to protect it's turf or sphere of influence as opposed to help grow the sport or pass time.

The organization would NEVER sacrifice the opportunity to collect a single extra dollar in order to support riders in a discipline that had fallen from favor. Strategic relationships were created early on to the exclusion of new blood or (heaven forbid) new ideas.

I don't think any of this was done for personal gain, just for the sake of protecting ones turf, exerting control and absolute resistance to change.
 
xrljoel said:
You were right; you really don't get it.

As someone who was involved in a competition club for many years my opinion is that the CMA has been an immovable obstacle to the growth and advancement of motorcycling and motorcycle competition in Canada since the 90's.

It has been an impenetrable bureaucracy (or fiefdom if you prefer) that went to great lengths to protect it's turf or sphere of influence as opposed to help grow the sport or pass time.

The organization would NEVER sacrifice the opportunity to collect a single extra dollar in order to support riders in a discipline that had fallen from favor. Strategic relationships were created early on to the exclusion of new blood or (heaven forbid) new ideas.

I don't think any of this was done for personal gain, just for the sake of protecting ones turf, exerting control and absolute resistance to change.
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Ok, so you really, really don't like them.

:unsure: what obstacle to the growth and advancement of motorcycling and motorcycle competition in Canada did they create that prevented you from having an event so far?
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