Supplements?

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most people who workout like myself take protein of course.... I cycle of creatine now and then as well. I am wondering though what other supplements you guys take that you have found either worked for muscle building, pre workout, and even fat loss.
the best reviews are from real people so just curious as to what experience people have had either negative or positive with different supplements.
 
What are your goals? There are a lot of supplements out there that lead to nothing but expensive urine. Good quality protein + creatine + a balanced diet + a well developed exercise regiment are really all you need if you are looking to build muscle.
 
Ya which is what i do.... but I wanna fill out more and its hard to get over that edge. I have no idea how some of these guys in the gym are huge? Gotta be on roids.

HELLBOY said:
What are your goals? There are a lot of supplements out there that lead to nothing but expensive urine. Good quality protein + creatine + a balanced diet + a well developed exercise regiment are really all you need if you are looking to build muscle.
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Ya I am hearing the bcaa's are a good investment...any recommendations?

sonnythebull said:
BCAA's , vitamin D,B12, glutamine, oregano oil,coconut oil
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Caffeine, creatine, good protein sources. The rest is b.s. or intended for people training on hormones/steroids.
 
ajaxguy said:
Ya which is what i do.... but I wanna fill out more and its hard to get over that edge. I have no idea how some of these guys in the gym are huge? Gotta be on roids.



Ya I am hearing the bcaa's are a good investment...any recommendations?
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There are only three ways to be that huge:

a) genetically = naturally big
b) eat a **** load = get big
c) get on gear, eat a **** load = get big, and the muscles that come with it
 
get on gear?

HELLBOY said:
There are only three ways to be that huge:

a) genetically = naturally big
b) eat a **** load = get big
c) get on gear, eat a **** load = get big, and the muscles that come with it
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And eat like a champ. Proper diet and exercise are the only things that will make you "huge" other than genetics or illegal steroids.


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That ribose is a bcaa?

Roomie said:
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And eat like a champ. Proper diet and exercise are the only things that will make you "huge" other than genetics or illegal steroids.


Sent from my piss poor iPhone while sitting on my squidly gixxxxxxxxer sippin on kool aid
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Here is what is working for me.

A little background:
On July 1st I weighed in at a whopping 362lbs. I had been smoke free for 9 months at that point and knew I had to tackle the next health hurdle. I wanted to ride a sport bike so bad but could not fit on them :(

Fast foward to now. I am sitting at 320lbs. I have lost over 20 inches and gained almost 25lbs in lean muscle. I fit on a sport bike comfortably and went and bought a 2006 600RR and sold the cruiser to my dad.

I take:
Protien shake and a Banana for breakfast
lean mass builder
Fat matabolizer
C4 pre-workout (Pineapple. Take 1/2 a dose for the first time. It's like speed :)
Vitafreat Multi Vit.
isolate for after a workout
BCAA's about 1/2 way in to a work out. Just sip them and enjoy the fuzzy feeling they give you.

I do cardio only 4 night and strentgh/cardio 2 nights with 1 night off. We do what is called "overtraining and active recovery.

Example:(all weights DO NOT include the olympic bars 40lbs)
Bench press 140lbs to failure.; Failure is when you can not physicaly move the bar anymore :)
Recovery is crunches to failure.
30 second rest and add 2 10lb plates to the bar and repeat.
We do build and strip sets ie. 140.150.160.150.140 with a rest set between each one.

Going to failure means that the muscle never gets adjusted to the weight. As you get stronger it takes longer to fail. The last set at 140 on my example is brutal. You feel like a wuss grunting and fighting to bang out 5-8 reps lol.

We always switch it up to keep the muscles guessing. This is last saturdays work out. You do 10 reps of the main and then 10 reps of the rest set and then repeat 10 times so you end up doing 100 reps. The weight never changes.

Bench press 140lbs X100-main
Crunches X100-rest
Standing curls 90lbs X100-main
Push ups X100-rest
Standing overhead press 90lbs X100-main
Leg lifts X100-rest
Preacher Curls 70lbs X100-main
Plank to failure
Dumbbell flys 35lbs/arm X100-main
Leg lifts X100

It pays off. I got on my trainers 2013 1199 penagale last night and I fit well.
 
Well congrats man!! I love reading this stuff... good for you!

How is that C4? These pre workouts are so hit and miss.

So for the workout you do 140x10 reps x 10 sets??

limey said:
Here is what is working for me.

A little background:
On July 1st I weighed in at a whopping 362lbs. I had been smoke free for 9 months at that point and knew I had to tackle the next health hurdle. I wanted to ride a sport bike so bad but could not fit on them :(

Fast foward to now. I am sitting at 320lbs. I have lost over 20 inches and gained almost 25lbs in lean muscle. I fit on a sport bike comfortably and went and bought a 2006 600RR and sold the cruiser to my dad.

I take:
Protien shake and a Banana for breakfast
lean mass builder
Fat matabolizer
C4 pre-workout (Pineapple. Take 1/2 a dose for the first time. It's like speed :)
Vitafreat Multi Vit.
isolate for after a workout
BCAA's about 1/2 way in to a work out. Just sip them and enjoy the fuzzy feeling they give you.

I do cardio only 4 night and strentgh/cardio 2 nights with 1 night off. We do what is called "overtraining and active recovery.

Example:(all weights DO NOT include the olympic bars 40lbs)
Bench press 140lbs to failure.; Failure is when you can not physicaly move the bar anymore :)
Recovery is crunches to failure.
30 second rest and add 2 10lb plates to the bar and repeat.
We do build and strip sets ie. 140.150.160.150.140 with a rest set between each one.

Going to failure means that the muscle never gets adjusted to the weight. As you get stronger it takes longer to fail. The last set at 140 on my example is brutal. You feel like a wuss grunting and fighting to bang out 5-8 reps lol.

We always switch it up to keep the muscles guessing. This is last saturdays work out. You do 10 reps of the main and then 10 reps of the rest set and then repeat 10 times so you end up doing 100 reps. The weight never changes.

Bench press 140lbs X100-main
Crunches X100-rest
Standing curls 90lbs X100-main
Push ups X100-rest
Standing overhead press 90lbs X100-main
Leg lifts X100-rest
Preacher Curls 70lbs X100-main
Plank to failure
Dumbbell flys 35lbs/arm X100-main
Leg lifts X100

It pays off. I got on my trainers 2013 1199 penagale last night and I fit well.
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Ehhh... my advice, save your money and skip on the BCAAs as well as "lean mass builder". Eat some whole foods and supplement with a good protein instead. Also, isolates may or may not be better... some science says that isolates "look like" rotten protein to the body and takeup isn't as good... either way they're more expensive and doubtful that they are better.
 
I definitely will not go the mass builder route.. never been a fan of weight gainers. I do take isolates but only because costco sells it just as cheap as regular whey.

Shaman said:
Ehhh... my advice, save your money and skip on the BCAAs as well as "lean mass builder". Eat some whole foods and supplement with a good protein instead. Also, isolates may or may not be better... some science says that isolates "look like" rotten protein to the body and takeup isn't as good... either way they're more expensive and doubtful that they are better.
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ajaxguy said:
Well congrats man!! I love reading this stuff... good for you!

How is that C4? These pre workouts are so hit and miss.

So for the workout you do 140x10 reps x 10 sets??
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C4 is great. No crash after and lots of sustained energy. I agree on skipping the lean amss builder if you are not overweight.

Yes. 10 sets of 10 reps@140
 
ajaxguy said:
Gotta get with this slang... thanks!
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No worries - That's how I felt about slang when I started riding. I thought motorcyclists frequently went to KFC with all this talk about 'chicken strips' LOL.


But ya, I put quite the time and researching what works and what doesn't when it comes to supplements, diet, and exercise. Interesting stuff.
 
Shaman said:
Ehhh... my advice, save your money and skip on the BCAAs as well as "lean mass builder". Eat some whole foods and supplement with a good protein instead. Also, isolates may or may not be better... some science says that isolates "look like" rotten protein to the body and takeup isn't as good... either way they're more expensive and doubtful that they are better.
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If you train 6 to seven days a week like I do, jiu jitsu, Muay Thai, and Olympic lifting and you want to keep recovering and training. You need BCAA's ,glutamine coconut oil, fish oil and vitamins on top of eating enough. If you think otherwise you aren't training hard or you are wrong, and no I'm not on GH, roids or TRT but I can grapple for an hour or more non stop, same with Muay Thai, dead lift 400, squat 315, jerk 215 and I'm 44 and don't have great genetics.
 
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